OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton

[Coronita]

 Hmm.. Isn't that a rather minimalist practice of good Citizenship? I am pretty sure most people won't benefit significantly differently, individually, based on who becomes the next President. But the overall direction of our Civilization can change dramatically – as the last 8 years have demonstrated forcefully. I think being a little more concerned about the future of Community/State/Nation is not entirely useless.

 

Yes, this would be minimalist..But for some, motivating to be a "minimist" to effect change is better than being do-nothing-and-play-victim-ist. And yes, i feel sometimes you need to think about yourself first before you can take care of others.

For example: tax issues: If I give 30-40% of my income to say the under a robin-hood bailout plan, for example, I jeopardize my own  family and self livelihood, not to mention, no one learns from this who gets bailed out. If  I can decide keep and decide to down with the 30-40%, I could use it to start a company (for example), which if successful, would create jobs. Perhaps this is a very narrowminded and naive-thinking. 

 

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[Ex-SD]

Re. Illegals voting in the USA….

Found this via Google. http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/001982.html

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Re. Illegals voting in the USA….

Found this via Google. http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/001982.html

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Re. Illegals voting in the USA….

Found this via Google. http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/001982.html

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Re. Illegals voting in the USA….

Found this via Google. http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/001982.html

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Re. Illegals voting in the USA….

Found this via Google. http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/001982.html

[larrylujack]

ah yes, the right wing blogsite.

Harris county TX had a 2006 population of almost 4 million people. If we are to assume the article is accurate (bearing in mind that this is an anti-immigrant blogsite) 35 people were removed from voter roles in 2005 as non-citizens, even if all of them voted (there has never been an election with 100% turnout), this is a miniscule number relative to the total population and hardly constitutes illegals voting all the time. Or, again assuming the accuracy of the information, if over 15 years 3742 were removed, than that still amounts to an average of 250 or so a year, again even if all of them voted, which I am sure is not the case, this does not imo rise to llegals voting all the time when the population is almost 4 million.
Also, keep in mind that voting districts in Texas are gerrymandered to favor Republicans anyway, so Hispanic populations typically are split up to reduce their influence, thus negating the effect of illegals voting as well.
Surely, illegals voting occurs, but there is no evidence that it occurs on a meaningful scale.
I think Bsrsharma put it best “What does an illegal, who has no clue, probably doesn’t know the language of the ballot or instructions, get by wasting his/her time to engage in a completely meaningless ritual?”
LL

[larrylujack]

ah yes, the right wing blogsite.

Harris county TX had a 2006 population of almost 4 million people. If we are to assume the article is accurate (bearing in mind that this is an anti-immigrant blogsite) 35 people were removed from voter roles in 2005 as non-citizens, even if all of them voted (there has never been an election with 100% turnout), this is a miniscule number relative to the total population and hardly constitutes illegals voting all the time. Or, again assuming the accuracy of the information, if over 15 years 3742 were removed, than that still amounts to an average of 250 or so a year, again even if all of them voted, which I am sure is not the case, this does not imo rise to llegals voting all the time when the population is almost 4 million.
Also, keep in mind that voting districts in Texas are gerrymandered to favor Republicans anyway, so Hispanic populations typically are split up to reduce their influence, thus negating the effect of illegals voting as well.
Surely, illegals voting occurs, but there is no evidence that it occurs on a meaningful scale.
I think Bsrsharma put it best “What does an illegal, who has no clue, probably doesn’t know the language of the ballot or instructions, get by wasting his/her time to engage in a completely meaningless ritual?”
LL

[larrylujack]

ah yes, the right wing blogsite.

Harris county TX had a 2006 population of almost 4 million people. If we are to assume the article is accurate (bearing in mind that this is an anti-immigrant blogsite) 35 people were removed from voter roles in 2005 as non-citizens, even if all of them voted (there has never been an election with 100% turnout), this is a miniscule number relative to the total population and hardly constitutes illegals voting all the time. Or, again assuming the accuracy of the information, if over 15 years 3742 were removed, than that still amounts to an average of 250 or so a year, again even if all of them voted, which I am sure is not the case, this does not imo rise to llegals voting all the time when the population is almost 4 million.
Also, keep in mind that voting districts in Texas are gerrymandered to favor Republicans anyway, so Hispanic populations typically are split up to reduce their influence, thus negating the effect of illegals voting as well.
Surely, illegals voting occurs, but there is no evidence that it occurs on a meaningful scale.
I think Bsrsharma put it best “What does an illegal, who has no clue, probably doesn’t know the language of the ballot or instructions, get by wasting his/her time to engage in a completely meaningless ritual?”
LL

[larrylujack]

ah yes, the right wing blogsite.

Harris county TX had a 2006 population of almost 4 million people. If we are to assume the article is accurate (bearing in mind that this is an anti-immigrant blogsite) 35 people were removed from voter roles in 2005 as non-citizens, even if all of them voted (there has never been an election with 100% turnout), this is a miniscule number relative to the total population and hardly constitutes illegals voting all the time. Or, again assuming the accuracy of the information, if over 15 years 3742 were removed, than that still amounts to an average of 250 or so a year, again even if all of them voted, which I am sure is not the case, this does not imo rise to llegals voting all the time when the population is almost 4 million.
Also, keep in mind that voting districts in Texas are gerrymandered to favor Republicans anyway, so Hispanic populations typically are split up to reduce their influence, thus negating the effect of illegals voting as well.
Surely, illegals voting occurs, but there is no evidence that it occurs on a meaningful scale.
I think Bsrsharma put it best “What does an illegal, who has no clue, probably doesn’t know the language of the ballot or instructions, get by wasting his/her time to engage in a completely meaningless ritual?”
LL

[larrylujack]

ah yes, the right wing blogsite.

Harris county TX had a 2006 population of almost 4 million people. If we are to assume the article is accurate (bearing in mind that this is an anti-immigrant blogsite) 35 people were removed from voter roles in 2005 as non-citizens, even if all of them voted (there has never been an election with 100% turnout), this is a miniscule number relative to the total population and hardly constitutes illegals voting all the time. Or, again assuming the accuracy of the information, if over 15 years 3742 were removed, than that still amounts to an average of 250 or so a year, again even if all of them voted, which I am sure is not the case, this does not imo rise to llegals voting all the time when the population is almost 4 million.
Also, keep in mind that voting districts in Texas are gerrymandered to favor Republicans anyway, so Hispanic populations typically are split up to reduce their influence, thus negating the effect of illegals voting as well.
Surely, illegals voting occurs, but there is no evidence that it occurs on a meaningful scale.
I think Bsrsharma put it best “What does an illegal, who has no clue, probably doesn’t know the language of the ballot or instructions, get by wasting his/her time to engage in a completely meaningless ritual?”
LL

[Ex-SD]

New York Post article:

‘SUPER’ LATINO SLAMS CLINTON
By MAGGIE HABERMAN

February 12, 2008 — A prominent member of the national Democratic Party has circulated a sharp e-mail saying the removal of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle was disloyal to Hispanics and should give “pause” to superdelegates and voters.

The e-mail from, Steven Ybarra, a California superdelegate who heads the voting-rights committee of the DNC Hispanic Caucus, was sent to fellow caucus members in the hours after word broke that Solis Doyle – the most prominent Latina in Clinton’s campaign – would be replaced by another close Clinton loyalist, Maggie Williams, who is black.

The e-mail noted that Clinton, who is looking to Latino voters for a boost in the Texas and Ohio primaries on March 4, scored heavily with Hispanics in her California win.

“Apparently, loyalty is not a two-way street,” he wrote. “Latino superdelegates like myself . . . will have cause to pause.”

Ybarra told The Post yesterday that the loss of Solis Doyle, a child of Mexican immigrants, just weeks before the Texas primary, where 36 percent of the population is Hispanic, was “dumb as a stump.”

Contacted for comment, the typically press-shy Solis Doyle told The Post that Ybarra was writing on “false information,” and confirmed she’s staying on as an adviser.

Team Clinton insisted that the decision to switch from Solis Doyle to Williams, revealed on Sunday afternoon, was amiable.

[Ex-SD]

New York Post article:

‘SUPER’ LATINO SLAMS CLINTON
By MAGGIE HABERMAN

February 12, 2008 — A prominent member of the national Democratic Party has circulated a sharp e-mail saying the removal of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle was disloyal to Hispanics and should give “pause” to superdelegates and voters.

The e-mail from, Steven Ybarra, a California superdelegate who heads the voting-rights committee of the DNC Hispanic Caucus, was sent to fellow caucus members in the hours after word broke that Solis Doyle – the most prominent Latina in Clinton’s campaign – would be replaced by another close Clinton loyalist, Maggie Williams, who is black.

The e-mail noted that Clinton, who is looking to Latino voters for a boost in the Texas and Ohio primaries on March 4, scored heavily with Hispanics in her California win.

“Apparently, loyalty is not a two-way street,” he wrote. “Latino superdelegates like myself . . . will have cause to pause.”

Ybarra told The Post yesterday that the loss of Solis Doyle, a child of Mexican immigrants, just weeks before the Texas primary, where 36 percent of the population is Hispanic, was “dumb as a stump.”

Contacted for comment, the typically press-shy Solis Doyle told The Post that Ybarra was writing on “false information,” and confirmed she’s staying on as an adviser.

Team Clinton insisted that the decision to switch from Solis Doyle to Williams, revealed on Sunday afternoon, was amiable.

[Ex-SD]

New York Post article:

‘SUPER’ LATINO SLAMS CLINTON
By MAGGIE HABERMAN

February 12, 2008 — A prominent member of the national Democratic Party has circulated a sharp e-mail saying the removal of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle was disloyal to Hispanics and should give “pause” to superdelegates and voters.

The e-mail from, Steven Ybarra, a California superdelegate who heads the voting-rights committee of the DNC Hispanic Caucus, was sent to fellow caucus members in the hours after word broke that Solis Doyle – the most prominent Latina in Clinton’s campaign – would be replaced by another close Clinton loyalist, Maggie Williams, who is black.

The e-mail noted that Clinton, who is looking to Latino voters for a boost in the Texas and Ohio primaries on March 4, scored heavily with Hispanics in her California win.

“Apparently, loyalty is not a two-way street,” he wrote. “Latino superdelegates like myself . . . will have cause to pause.”

Ybarra told The Post yesterday that the loss of Solis Doyle, a child of Mexican immigrants, just weeks before the Texas primary, where 36 percent of the population is Hispanic, was “dumb as a stump.”

Contacted for comment, the typically press-shy Solis Doyle told The Post that Ybarra was writing on “false information,” and confirmed she’s staying on as an adviser.

Team Clinton insisted that the decision to switch from Solis Doyle to Williams, revealed on Sunday afternoon, was amiable.

[Ex-SD]

New York Post article:

‘SUPER’ LATINO SLAMS CLINTON
By MAGGIE HABERMAN

February 12, 2008 — A prominent member of the national Democratic Party has circulated a sharp e-mail saying the removal of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle was disloyal to Hispanics and should give “pause” to superdelegates and voters.

The e-mail from, Steven Ybarra, a California superdelegate who heads the voting-rights committee of the DNC Hispanic Caucus, was sent to fellow caucus members in the hours after word broke that Solis Doyle – the most prominent Latina in Clinton’s campaign – would be replaced by another close Clinton loyalist, Maggie Williams, who is black.

The e-mail noted that Clinton, who is looking to Latino voters for a boost in the Texas and Ohio primaries on March 4, scored heavily with Hispanics in her California win.

“Apparently, loyalty is not a two-way street,” he wrote. “Latino superdelegates like myself . . . will have cause to pause.”

Ybarra told The Post yesterday that the loss of Solis Doyle, a child of Mexican immigrants, just weeks before the Texas primary, where 36 percent of the population is Hispanic, was “dumb as a stump.”

Contacted for comment, the typically press-shy Solis Doyle told The Post that Ybarra was writing on “false information,” and confirmed she’s staying on as an adviser.

Team Clinton insisted that the decision to switch from Solis Doyle to Williams, revealed on Sunday afternoon, was amiable.

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