OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton

[poorgradstudent]

No one is really sure why Latino and Asian Democrats tilted so heavily in favor of Clinton in the California primaries. One could suppose if the women leaned for Hillary and the men were evenly split it would create some of the gap, but that’s not enough. Policy wise, Obama and Hillary overlap heavily, but Obama tends to do better at pulling independants and moderates.

To correct the gross mis-statement Kev made, the Bush tax cuts that will be rolled back primarily only affect those making over $250k a year. I think most Americans have realized at this point that those tax cuts really only benefitted the uber-rich, while throwing a tiny bone to the middle class (And if you’re sub 100K a year, you’re middle class, and should vote Democrat if you’re voting with your pocketbook)

[oshens]

This was in yesterday’s Honolulu Star Bulletin…

The Clinton camp, however, is acknowledging that Obama, because he was born in Hawaii and went to Punahou and played basketball for the high school, will resonate.

“I always felt he had an advantage in Hawaii by his associations,” Senate President Colleen Hanabusa said. “He has been able to mobilize the youth, and, remember, only in Hawaii do people ask where you went to high school.”

Randy Perreira, executive director of the HGEA, the state’s largest government union, which is supporting Clinton, said the caucus will be difficult.

“Realistically, a lot depends on the mainland primaries, but we know there is a lot of sentiment for Senator Obama. He was born and to a great extent raised in Hawaii and he is a local favorite,” Perreira acknowledged.

Just my 2 cents but we Hawaii folks are pretty loyal to fellow locals. Everyone is related to or knows each other it seems. My brother and I went to the same school and my bro even had one of Obama’s teachers. I think it’ll go Obama’s way.

[oshens]

This was in yesterday’s Honolulu Star Bulletin…

The Clinton camp, however, is acknowledging that Obama, because he was born in Hawaii and went to Punahou and played basketball for the high school, will resonate.

“I always felt he had an advantage in Hawaii by his associations,” Senate President Colleen Hanabusa said. “He has been able to mobilize the youth, and, remember, only in Hawaii do people ask where you went to high school.”

Randy Perreira, executive director of the HGEA, the state’s largest government union, which is supporting Clinton, said the caucus will be difficult.

“Realistically, a lot depends on the mainland primaries, but we know there is a lot of sentiment for Senator Obama. He was born and to a great extent raised in Hawaii and he is a local favorite,” Perreira acknowledged.

Just my 2 cents but we Hawaii folks are pretty loyal to fellow locals. Everyone is related to or knows each other it seems. My brother and I went to the same school and my bro even had one of Obama’s teachers. I think it’ll go Obama’s way.

[oshens]

This was in yesterday’s Honolulu Star Bulletin…

The Clinton camp, however, is acknowledging that Obama, because he was born in Hawaii and went to Punahou and played basketball for the high school, will resonate.

“I always felt he had an advantage in Hawaii by his associations,” Senate President Colleen Hanabusa said. “He has been able to mobilize the youth, and, remember, only in Hawaii do people ask where you went to high school.”

Randy Perreira, executive director of the HGEA, the state’s largest government union, which is supporting Clinton, said the caucus will be difficult.

“Realistically, a lot depends on the mainland primaries, but we know there is a lot of sentiment for Senator Obama. He was born and to a great extent raised in Hawaii and he is a local favorite,” Perreira acknowledged.

Just my 2 cents but we Hawaii folks are pretty loyal to fellow locals. Everyone is related to or knows each other it seems. My brother and I went to the same school and my bro even had one of Obama’s teachers. I think it’ll go Obama’s way.

[oshens]

This was in yesterday’s Honolulu Star Bulletin…

The Clinton camp, however, is acknowledging that Obama, because he was born in Hawaii and went to Punahou and played basketball for the high school, will resonate.

“I always felt he had an advantage in Hawaii by his associations,” Senate President Colleen Hanabusa said. “He has been able to mobilize the youth, and, remember, only in Hawaii do people ask where you went to high school.”

Randy Perreira, executive director of the HGEA, the state’s largest government union, which is supporting Clinton, said the caucus will be difficult.

“Realistically, a lot depends on the mainland primaries, but we know there is a lot of sentiment for Senator Obama. He was born and to a great extent raised in Hawaii and he is a local favorite,” Perreira acknowledged.

Just my 2 cents but we Hawaii folks are pretty loyal to fellow locals. Everyone is related to or knows each other it seems. My brother and I went to the same school and my bro even had one of Obama’s teachers. I think it’ll go Obama’s way.

[oshens]

This was in yesterday’s Honolulu Star Bulletin…

The Clinton camp, however, is acknowledging that Obama, because he was born in Hawaii and went to Punahou and played basketball for the high school, will resonate.

“I always felt he had an advantage in Hawaii by his associations,” Senate President Colleen Hanabusa said. “He has been able to mobilize the youth, and, remember, only in Hawaii do people ask where you went to high school.”

Randy Perreira, executive director of the HGEA, the state’s largest government union, which is supporting Clinton, said the caucus will be difficult.

“Realistically, a lot depends on the mainland primaries, but we know there is a lot of sentiment for Senator Obama. He was born and to a great extent raised in Hawaii and he is a local favorite,” Perreira acknowledged.

Just my 2 cents but we Hawaii folks are pretty loyal to fellow locals. Everyone is related to or knows each other it seems. My brother and I went to the same school and my bro even had one of Obama’s teachers. I think it’ll go Obama’s way.

[Anonymous]

Why is it surprising that Hispanics favor Hillary? If you want to talk racism, it is very strong in Mexico where in general blacks are not held in high regard (and there are very few of them). So given that reality, and most hispanics in the US are from Mexico, it’s not surprising they wouldn’t vote for Obama.

[Anonymous]

Why is it surprising that Hispanics favor Hillary? If you want to talk racism, it is very strong in Mexico where in general blacks are not held in high regard (and there are very few of them). So given that reality, and most hispanics in the US are from Mexico, it’s not surprising they wouldn’t vote for Obama.

[Anonymous]

Why is it surprising that Hispanics favor Hillary? If you want to talk racism, it is very strong in Mexico where in general blacks are not held in high regard (and there are very few of them). So given that reality, and most hispanics in the US are from Mexico, it’s not surprising they wouldn’t vote for Obama.

[Anonymous]

Why is it surprising that Hispanics favor Hillary? If you want to talk racism, it is very strong in Mexico where in general blacks are not held in high regard (and there are very few of them). So given that reality, and most hispanics in the US are from Mexico, it’s not surprising they wouldn’t vote for Obama.

[Anonymous]

Why is it surprising that Hispanics favor Hillary? If you want to talk racism, it is very strong in Mexico where in general blacks are not held in high regard (and there are very few of them). So given that reality, and most hispanics in the US are from Mexico, it’s not surprising they wouldn’t vote for Obama.

[DWCAP]

Wow, a discussion online that doesnt involve mud flinging and discusses race and politics!

My 2 cents…
Clinton:
1)Racism is everywhere, but only villified if it is someone who is white disagreeing with someone who isnt. Otherwise it is just cultural differences.
2)Women have been dreaming about a female prez alot longer than most blacks have about a black prez. They are also more likey to vote. Remember sexism is men keeping women down, not the generalization of a person based on gender. (quietly alot of women will admit that their backing a women because she is women is problematic, but they dont care.)
3) annxiety is high. We remember fondly the 1990’s, when the world didnt hate us and everyone was getting ahead or had a plan to. We want the comfort and security we had back when Clinton was in the White House, and now we can vote for a Clinton again to bring back the good times. Who wants change when the past was so good?

Obama

1)ALOT of the votes for Obama are comeing from the young, under 30 groups. The young have no skin in the game, but little chance to get into the games in the first place. Wages are stagnant, housing unaffordable, jobs are plentiful, but career tracks are longer, with ever longer educations and resumes needed to quialify. Education is more expensive and the best schools harder to get into. Specialization is required earlier and earlier. Some change is a good thing, because they dont have much to loose.
2) Obama brings hope. People who are lead by their emotions (not necessary a bad thing) are insipired by him. He brings a vision of a better tomorrow, instead of a return to a positive past. The details can come later, it is the promise that really matters.
3) either way you go, it is nearly impossible to confuse either with Bush. Change is desired from Bush, and Obama offers MORE change than Clinton.

Why are Asians and hispanics voting the way they are? That is too broad a question. Look to age, economic outlook and gender, with the qualification (see Clinton 1 as an example) of these cultures and you can get an answer that makes alot more sense.

[DWCAP]

Wow, a discussion online that doesnt involve mud flinging and discusses race and politics!

My 2 cents…
Clinton:
1)Racism is everywhere, but only villified if it is someone who is white disagreeing with someone who isnt. Otherwise it is just cultural differences.
2)Women have been dreaming about a female prez alot longer than most blacks have about a black prez. They are also more likey to vote. Remember sexism is men keeping women down, not the generalization of a person based on gender. (quietly alot of women will admit that their backing a women because she is women is problematic, but they dont care.)
3) annxiety is high. We remember fondly the 1990’s, when the world didnt hate us and everyone was getting ahead or had a plan to. We want the comfort and security we had back when Clinton was in the White House, and now we can vote for a Clinton again to bring back the good times. Who wants change when the past was so good?

Obama

1)ALOT of the votes for Obama are comeing from the young, under 30 groups. The young have no skin in the game, but little chance to get into the games in the first place. Wages are stagnant, housing unaffordable, jobs are plentiful, but career tracks are longer, with ever longer educations and resumes needed to quialify. Education is more expensive and the best schools harder to get into. Specialization is required earlier and earlier. Some change is a good thing, because they dont have much to loose.
2) Obama brings hope. People who are lead by their emotions (not necessary a bad thing) are insipired by him. He brings a vision of a better tomorrow, instead of a return to a positive past. The details can come later, it is the promise that really matters.
3) either way you go, it is nearly impossible to confuse either with Bush. Change is desired from Bush, and Obama offers MORE change than Clinton.

Why are Asians and hispanics voting the way they are? That is too broad a question. Look to age, economic outlook and gender, with the qualification (see Clinton 1 as an example) of these cultures and you can get an answer that makes alot more sense.

[DWCAP]

Wow, a discussion online that doesnt involve mud flinging and discusses race and politics!

My 2 cents…
Clinton:
1)Racism is everywhere, but only villified if it is someone who is white disagreeing with someone who isnt. Otherwise it is just cultural differences.
2)Women have been dreaming about a female prez alot longer than most blacks have about a black prez. They are also more likey to vote. Remember sexism is men keeping women down, not the generalization of a person based on gender. (quietly alot of women will admit that their backing a women because she is women is problematic, but they dont care.)
3) annxiety is high. We remember fondly the 1990’s, when the world didnt hate us and everyone was getting ahead or had a plan to. We want the comfort and security we had back when Clinton was in the White House, and now we can vote for a Clinton again to bring back the good times. Who wants change when the past was so good?

Obama

1)ALOT of the votes for Obama are comeing from the young, under 30 groups. The young have no skin in the game, but little chance to get into the games in the first place. Wages are stagnant, housing unaffordable, jobs are plentiful, but career tracks are longer, with ever longer educations and resumes needed to quialify. Education is more expensive and the best schools harder to get into. Specialization is required earlier and earlier. Some change is a good thing, because they dont have much to loose.
2) Obama brings hope. People who are lead by their emotions (not necessary a bad thing) are insipired by him. He brings a vision of a better tomorrow, instead of a return to a positive past. The details can come later, it is the promise that really matters.
3) either way you go, it is nearly impossible to confuse either with Bush. Change is desired from Bush, and Obama offers MORE change than Clinton.

Why are Asians and hispanics voting the way they are? That is too broad a question. Look to age, economic outlook and gender, with the qualification (see Clinton 1 as an example) of these cultures and you can get an answer that makes alot more sense.

[DWCAP]

Wow, a discussion online that doesnt involve mud flinging and discusses race and politics!

My 2 cents…
Clinton:
1)Racism is everywhere, but only villified if it is someone who is white disagreeing with someone who isnt. Otherwise it is just cultural differences.
2)Women have been dreaming about a female prez alot longer than most blacks have about a black prez. They are also more likey to vote. Remember sexism is men keeping women down, not the generalization of a person based on gender. (quietly alot of women will admit that their backing a women because she is women is problematic, but they dont care.)
3) annxiety is high. We remember fondly the 1990’s, when the world didnt hate us and everyone was getting ahead or had a plan to. We want the comfort and security we had back when Clinton was in the White House, and now we can vote for a Clinton again to bring back the good times. Who wants change when the past was so good?

Obama

1)ALOT of the votes for Obama are comeing from the young, under 30 groups. The young have no skin in the game, but little chance to get into the games in the first place. Wages are stagnant, housing unaffordable, jobs are plentiful, but career tracks are longer, with ever longer educations and resumes needed to quialify. Education is more expensive and the best schools harder to get into. Specialization is required earlier and earlier. Some change is a good thing, because they dont have much to loose.
2) Obama brings hope. People who are lead by their emotions (not necessary a bad thing) are insipired by him. He brings a vision of a better tomorrow, instead of a return to a positive past. The details can come later, it is the promise that really matters.
3) either way you go, it is nearly impossible to confuse either with Bush. Change is desired from Bush, and Obama offers MORE change than Clinton.

Why are Asians and hispanics voting the way they are? That is too broad a question. Look to age, economic outlook and gender, with the qualification (see Clinton 1 as an example) of these cultures and you can get an answer that makes alot more sense.

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