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July 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM #432168July 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM #431453
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ParticipantPeople really are going to great lengths because they dont want to admit Obama is their president. That is all this is. The denial of reality.
Reality is tough for Americans. Left or right. Which is why they cling to the narratives, talking points and mythology. It’s comforting being in you red or blue tribe and flinging poo at the other, isn’t it. Doesn’t really have much connection to empire business and global cartels but hey it makes people feel better in a very complex world.
The whole political polarity thing has evolved into a meaningless narrative and theater for the constituents. Left/right talking points are a childish distraction. It’s not a conspiracy per se, it’s evolved organically over the decades that obsfucates REALITY and true power.
If I had to guess where the Obama birth certificate issue was conceived, I’d say Israeli intelligence not in Rush Limbaugh’s studio. That’s just a hunch and based on preliminary basic web research from where it was released into the internet consciousness. It also fits a pattern.
The red and blue tribes are going to be very confused here in the coming months and years. I suspect full political meltdown in less then 12 months. It should be enlightening if you lose the partisan goggles. Lots of skeletons in lots of closets.
“The de facto censorship which leaves so many Americans functionally illiterate about the history of US foreign affairs may be all the more effective because it is not official, heavy-handed or conspiratorial, but woven artlessly into the fabric of education and media. No conspiracy is needed. The editors of Reader’s Digest and U.S. News and World Report do not need to meet covertly with the man from NBC in an FBI safe-house to plan next month’s stories and programs; for the simple truth is that these men would not have reached the positions they occupy if they themselves had not all been guided through the same tunnel of camouflaged history and emerged with the same selective memory and conventional wisdom.”
— from Killing Hope, Ù.S. Military and CIA Interventions since WWII, by William Blum, p. 19, Common Courage Press, 1995.We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets, and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.
— Katharine Graham (now deceased owner of the Washington Post) at a 1988 speech at CIA headquartersThe Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.
— William Colby, former Director of the CIAThe enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominate political mythology.”
— Michael Parenti http://www.michaelparenti.org“Those who manipulate the organized habits and opinions of the masses constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of the country….It remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons….It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world….As civilization has become more complex, and as the need for invisible government has been increasingly demonstrated, the technical means have been invented and developed by which opinion may be regimented.”
— Edward Bernays in his book “Propaganda” (1928). Bernays was“There is no such thing at this date of the world’s history in America as an independent press. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write his honest opinion, and if you did, you know beforehand it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things. and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allow my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before 24 hours, my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it, and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks. They pull the strings, and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”
– John Swinden, head of the New York Times, when asked to toast an independent press in a gathering at the National Press Club“I view the output of established media as a slurry of manure and toxic waste; a propaganda product that requires heavy analysis and context fitting in order to recover the 5%-10% of useful information contained within an obfuscated mess.”
— http://www.cryptogon.com/?page_id=2“If those in charge of our society – politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television – can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.”
— Howard ZinnJuly 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM #431663ParticipantPeople really are going to great lengths because they dont want to admit Obama is their president. That is all this is. The denial of reality.
Reality is tough for Americans. Left or right. Which is why they cling to the narratives, talking points and mythology. It’s comforting being in you red or blue tribe and flinging poo at the other, isn’t it. Doesn’t really have much connection to empire business and global cartels but hey it makes people feel better in a very complex world.
The whole political polarity thing has evolved into a meaningless narrative and theater for the constituents. Left/right talking points are a childish distraction. It’s not a conspiracy per se, it’s evolved organically over the decades that obsfucates REALITY and true power.
If I had to guess where the Obama birth certificate issue was conceived, I’d say Israeli intelligence not in Rush Limbaugh’s studio. That’s just a hunch and based on preliminary basic web research from where it was released into the internet consciousness. It also fits a pattern.
The red and blue tribes are going to be very confused here in the coming months and years. I suspect full political meltdown in less then 12 months. It should be enlightening if you lose the partisan goggles. Lots of skeletons in lots of closets.
“The de facto censorship which leaves so many Americans functionally illiterate about the history of US foreign affairs may be all the more effective because it is not official, heavy-handed or conspiratorial, but woven artlessly into the fabric of education and media. No conspiracy is needed. The editors of Reader’s Digest and U.S. News and World Report do not need to meet covertly with the man from NBC in an FBI safe-house to plan next month’s stories and programs; for the simple truth is that these men would not have reached the positions they occupy if they themselves had not all been guided through the same tunnel of camouflaged history and emerged with the same selective memory and conventional wisdom.”
— from Killing Hope, Ù.S. Military and CIA Interventions since WWII, by William Blum, p. 19, Common Courage Press, 1995.We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets, and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.
— Katharine Graham (now deceased owner of the Washington Post) at a 1988 speech at CIA headquartersThe Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.
— William Colby, former Director of the CIAThe enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominate political mythology.”
— Michael Parenti http://www.michaelparenti.org“Those who manipulate the organized habits and opinions of the masses constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of the country….It remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons….It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world….As civilization has become more complex, and as the need for invisible government has been increasingly demonstrated, the technical means have been invented and developed by which opinion may be regimented.”
— Edward Bernays in his book “Propaganda” (1928). Bernays was“There is no such thing at this date of the world’s history in America as an independent press. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write his honest opinion, and if you did, you know beforehand it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things. and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allow my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before 24 hours, my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it, and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks. They pull the strings, and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”
– John Swinden, head of the New York Times, when asked to toast an independent press in a gathering at the National Press Club“I view the output of established media as a slurry of manure and toxic waste; a propaganda product that requires heavy analysis and context fitting in order to recover the 5%-10% of useful information contained within an obfuscated mess.”
— http://www.cryptogon.com/?page_id=2“If those in charge of our society – politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television – can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.”
— Howard ZinnJuly 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM #431957ParticipantPeople really are going to great lengths because they dont want to admit Obama is their president. That is all this is. The denial of reality.
Reality is tough for Americans. Left or right. Which is why they cling to the narratives, talking points and mythology. It’s comforting being in you red or blue tribe and flinging poo at the other, isn’t it. Doesn’t really have much connection to empire business and global cartels but hey it makes people feel better in a very complex world.
The whole political polarity thing has evolved into a meaningless narrative and theater for the constituents. Left/right talking points are a childish distraction. It’s not a conspiracy per se, it’s evolved organically over the decades that obsfucates REALITY and true power.
If I had to guess where the Obama birth certificate issue was conceived, I’d say Israeli intelligence not in Rush Limbaugh’s studio. That’s just a hunch and based on preliminary basic web research from where it was released into the internet consciousness. It also fits a pattern.
The red and blue tribes are going to be very confused here in the coming months and years. I suspect full political meltdown in less then 12 months. It should be enlightening if you lose the partisan goggles. Lots of skeletons in lots of closets.
“The de facto censorship which leaves so many Americans functionally illiterate about the history of US foreign affairs may be all the more effective because it is not official, heavy-handed or conspiratorial, but woven artlessly into the fabric of education and media. No conspiracy is needed. The editors of Reader’s Digest and U.S. News and World Report do not need to meet covertly with the man from NBC in an FBI safe-house to plan next month’s stories and programs; for the simple truth is that these men would not have reached the positions they occupy if they themselves had not all been guided through the same tunnel of camouflaged history and emerged with the same selective memory and conventional wisdom.”
— from Killing Hope, Ù.S. Military and CIA Interventions since WWII, by William Blum, p. 19, Common Courage Press, 1995.We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets, and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.
— Katharine Graham (now deceased owner of the Washington Post) at a 1988 speech at CIA headquartersThe Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.
— William Colby, former Director of the CIAThe enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominate political mythology.”
— Michael Parenti http://www.michaelparenti.org“Those who manipulate the organized habits and opinions of the masses constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of the country….It remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons….It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world….As civilization has become more complex, and as the need for invisible government has been increasingly demonstrated, the technical means have been invented and developed by which opinion may be regimented.”
— Edward Bernays in his book “Propaganda” (1928). Bernays was“There is no such thing at this date of the world’s history in America as an independent press. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write his honest opinion, and if you did, you know beforehand it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things. and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allow my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before 24 hours, my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it, and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks. They pull the strings, and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”
– John Swinden, head of the New York Times, when asked to toast an independent press in a gathering at the National Press Club“I view the output of established media as a slurry of manure and toxic waste; a propaganda product that requires heavy analysis and context fitting in order to recover the 5%-10% of useful information contained within an obfuscated mess.”
— http://www.cryptogon.com/?page_id=2“If those in charge of our society – politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television – can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.”
— Howard ZinnJuly 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM #432026ParticipantPeople really are going to great lengths because they dont want to admit Obama is their president. That is all this is. The denial of reality.
Reality is tough for Americans. Left or right. Which is why they cling to the narratives, talking points and mythology. It’s comforting being in you red or blue tribe and flinging poo at the other, isn’t it. Doesn’t really have much connection to empire business and global cartels but hey it makes people feel better in a very complex world.
The whole political polarity thing has evolved into a meaningless narrative and theater for the constituents. Left/right talking points are a childish distraction. It’s not a conspiracy per se, it’s evolved organically over the decades that obsfucates REALITY and true power.
If I had to guess where the Obama birth certificate issue was conceived, I’d say Israeli intelligence not in Rush Limbaugh’s studio. That’s just a hunch and based on preliminary basic web research from where it was released into the internet consciousness. It also fits a pattern.
The red and blue tribes are going to be very confused here in the coming months and years. I suspect full political meltdown in less then 12 months. It should be enlightening if you lose the partisan goggles. Lots of skeletons in lots of closets.
“The de facto censorship which leaves so many Americans functionally illiterate about the history of US foreign affairs may be all the more effective because it is not official, heavy-handed or conspiratorial, but woven artlessly into the fabric of education and media. No conspiracy is needed. The editors of Reader’s Digest and U.S. News and World Report do not need to meet covertly with the man from NBC in an FBI safe-house to plan next month’s stories and programs; for the simple truth is that these men would not have reached the positions they occupy if they themselves had not all been guided through the same tunnel of camouflaged history and emerged with the same selective memory and conventional wisdom.”
— from Killing Hope, Ù.S. Military and CIA Interventions since WWII, by William Blum, p. 19, Common Courage Press, 1995.We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets, and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.
— Katharine Graham (now deceased owner of the Washington Post) at a 1988 speech at CIA headquartersThe Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.
— William Colby, former Director of the CIAThe enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominate political mythology.”
— Michael Parenti http://www.michaelparenti.org“Those who manipulate the organized habits and opinions of the masses constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of the country….It remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons….It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world….As civilization has become more complex, and as the need for invisible government has been increasingly demonstrated, the technical means have been invented and developed by which opinion may be regimented.”
— Edward Bernays in his book “Propaganda” (1928). Bernays was“There is no such thing at this date of the world’s history in America as an independent press. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write his honest opinion, and if you did, you know beforehand it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things. and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allow my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before 24 hours, my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it, and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks. They pull the strings, and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”
– John Swinden, head of the New York Times, when asked to toast an independent press in a gathering at the National Press Club“I view the output of established media as a slurry of manure and toxic waste; a propaganda product that requires heavy analysis and context fitting in order to recover the 5%-10% of useful information contained within an obfuscated mess.”
— http://www.cryptogon.com/?page_id=2“If those in charge of our society – politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television – can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.”
— Howard ZinnJuly 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM #432185ParticipantPeople really are going to great lengths because they dont want to admit Obama is their president. That is all this is. The denial of reality.
Reality is tough for Americans. Left or right. Which is why they cling to the narratives, talking points and mythology. It’s comforting being in you red or blue tribe and flinging poo at the other, isn’t it. Doesn’t really have much connection to empire business and global cartels but hey it makes people feel better in a very complex world.
The whole political polarity thing has evolved into a meaningless narrative and theater for the constituents. Left/right talking points are a childish distraction. It’s not a conspiracy per se, it’s evolved organically over the decades that obsfucates REALITY and true power.
If I had to guess where the Obama birth certificate issue was conceived, I’d say Israeli intelligence not in Rush Limbaugh’s studio. That’s just a hunch and based on preliminary basic web research from where it was released into the internet consciousness. It also fits a pattern.
The red and blue tribes are going to be very confused here in the coming months and years. I suspect full political meltdown in less then 12 months. It should be enlightening if you lose the partisan goggles. Lots of skeletons in lots of closets.
“The de facto censorship which leaves so many Americans functionally illiterate about the history of US foreign affairs may be all the more effective because it is not official, heavy-handed or conspiratorial, but woven artlessly into the fabric of education and media. No conspiracy is needed. The editors of Reader’s Digest and U.S. News and World Report do not need to meet covertly with the man from NBC in an FBI safe-house to plan next month’s stories and programs; for the simple truth is that these men would not have reached the positions they occupy if they themselves had not all been guided through the same tunnel of camouflaged history and emerged with the same selective memory and conventional wisdom.”
— from Killing Hope, Ù.S. Military and CIA Interventions since WWII, by William Blum, p. 19, Common Courage Press, 1995.We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn’t. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets, and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.
— Katharine Graham (now deceased owner of the Washington Post) at a 1988 speech at CIA headquartersThe Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.
— William Colby, former Director of the CIAThe enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominate political mythology.”
— Michael Parenti http://www.michaelparenti.org“Those who manipulate the organized habits and opinions of the masses constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of the country….It remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons….It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world….As civilization has become more complex, and as the need for invisible government has been increasingly demonstrated, the technical means have been invented and developed by which opinion may be regimented.”
— Edward Bernays in his book “Propaganda” (1928). Bernays was“There is no such thing at this date of the world’s history in America as an independent press. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write his honest opinion, and if you did, you know beforehand it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things. and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allow my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before 24 hours, my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it, and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks. They pull the strings, and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”
– John Swinden, head of the New York Times, when asked to toast an independent press in a gathering at the National Press Club“I view the output of established media as a slurry of manure and toxic waste; a propaganda product that requires heavy analysis and context fitting in order to recover the 5%-10% of useful information contained within an obfuscated mess.”
— http://www.cryptogon.com/?page_id=2“If those in charge of our society – politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television – can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.”
— Howard ZinnJuly 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM #431507Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantArraya: Have you ever read any James Bamford? He’s got three books and has really dissected the US intelligence community (especially the NSA).
When you have a moment, check his stuff out.
Great posting, by the way. Like I said, I’m getting more and more nervous, because I’m agreeing with you more and more.
July 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM #431717ParticipantArraya: Have you ever read any James Bamford? He’s got three books and has really dissected the US intelligence community (especially the NSA).
When you have a moment, check his stuff out.
Great posting, by the way. Like I said, I’m getting more and more nervous, because I’m agreeing with you more and more.
July 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM #432011ParticipantArraya: Have you ever read any James Bamford? He’s got three books and has really dissected the US intelligence community (especially the NSA).
When you have a moment, check his stuff out.
Great posting, by the way. Like I said, I’m getting more and more nervous, because I’m agreeing with you more and more.
July 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM #432080ParticipantArraya: Have you ever read any James Bamford? He’s got three books and has really dissected the US intelligence community (especially the NSA).
When you have a moment, check his stuff out.
Great posting, by the way. Like I said, I’m getting more and more nervous, because I’m agreeing with you more and more.
July 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM #432239ParticipantArraya: Have you ever read any James Bamford? He’s got three books and has really dissected the US intelligence community (especially the NSA).
When you have a moment, check his stuff out.
Great posting, by the way. Like I said, I’m getting more and more nervous, because I’m agreeing with you more and more.
July 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM #431686Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Arraya: Have you ever read any James Bamford? He’s got three books and has really dissected the US intelligence community (especially the NSA).
When you have a moment, check his stuff out.
Great posting, by the way. Like I said, I’m getting more and more nervous, because I’m agreeing with you more and more.[/quote]
Thanks Allan.. I will add it to my Allan from Fallbrook list of reading which is about 6 or 7 deep now;) I’m going on vacation in Aug, so I may knock a few out then.
July 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM #431899Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Arraya: Have you ever read any James Bamford? He’s got three books and has really dissected the US intelligence community (especially the NSA).
When you have a moment, check his stuff out.
Great posting, by the way. Like I said, I’m getting more and more nervous, because I’m agreeing with you more and more.[/quote]
Thanks Allan.. I will add it to my Allan from Fallbrook list of reading which is about 6 or 7 deep now;) I’m going on vacation in Aug, so I may knock a few out then.
July 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM #432191Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Arraya: Have you ever read any James Bamford? He’s got three books and has really dissected the US intelligence community (especially the NSA).
When you have a moment, check his stuff out.
Great posting, by the way. Like I said, I’m getting more and more nervous, because I’m agreeing with you more and more.[/quote]
Thanks Allan.. I will add it to my Allan from Fallbrook list of reading which is about 6 or 7 deep now;) I’m going on vacation in Aug, so I may knock a few out then.
July 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM #432261Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Arraya: Have you ever read any James Bamford? He’s got three books and has really dissected the US intelligence community (especially the NSA).
When you have a moment, check his stuff out.
Great posting, by the way. Like I said, I’m getting more and more nervous, because I’m agreeing with you more and more.[/quote]
Thanks Allan.. I will add it to my Allan from Fallbrook list of reading which is about 6 or 7 deep now;) I’m going on vacation in Aug, so I may knock a few out then.
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