OT: Justice for Alexian Lien: victim of mob beating…

[CA renter]

[quote=FlyerInHi]SUV runs over motorcyclist who did nothing to the SUV driver. That fact taken by itself sounds worse than the 200# husband beating his 100# wife.

You want facts or context; and if context, how much context?[/quote]

FIH, it was VERY CLEAR that the motorcyclist caused the “accident” on purpose.

Please stop trolling.

[patb]

the problem is Mieses may not have been part of the problem.

his wife claims mieses was trying to calm the crowd down.

As i see it, this was a garden variety traffic accident.
then it got a little tense, then lien drove through the crowd.
the mieses guy got run over

then it just got stupid.

If mieses was threatening lien, lien needed to be in “Reasonable fear of bodily harm” the problem is lien was inside a range rover, that was perfectly sound.
none of these chuckleheads had broken a window, none of them blown a tire,
sure the crowf was pissed. if you drive badly and run over a pedestrian the bystanders will get pissed too.

if you then drive through the crowd of angry pedestrians, because one slapped his hand on the trunk, well, that’s aggravated assault.

Lien needed to stay where he was, chill out, call 911.

now he’s facing a couple of million in lawsuits, he’s facing
a long messy, career destroying swarm of publicity.

i’m not going to join either side, the cops have arrested the guys who kicked his ass, and the lawyers are suing lien.

i’ll let the system work

[Coronita]

[quote=FlyerInHi]SUV runs over motorcyclist who did nothing to the SUV driver. That fact taken by itself sounds worse than the 200# husband beating his 100# wife.

You want facts or context; and if context, how much context?[/quote]

Welcome back briansd….How have you been?

[an]

[quote=patb]the problem is Mieses may not have been part of the problem.

his wife claims mieses was trying to calm the crowd down.

As i see it, this was a garden variety traffic accident.
then it got a little tense, then lien drove through the crowd.
the mieses guy got run over

then it just got stupid.

If mieses was threatening lien, lien needed to be in “Reasonable fear of bodily harm” the problem is lien was inside a range rover, that was perfectly sound.
none of these chuckleheads had broken a window, none of them blown a tire,
sure the crowf was pissed. if you drive badly and run over a pedestrian the bystanders will get pissed too.

if you then drive through the crowd of angry pedestrians, because one slapped his hand on the trunk, well, that’s aggravated assault.

Lien needed to stay where he was, chill out, call 911.

now he’s facing a couple of million in lawsuits, he’s facing
a long messy, career destroying swarm of publicity.

i’m not going to join either side, the cops have arrested the guys who kicked his ass, and the lawyers are suing lien.

i’ll let the system work[/quote]How did his wife know he was calming the crowd down when he was in a coma?

Did Lien aim from Mieses and only hit him? If he didn’t, then it doesn’t matter of Mieses personally threaten Lien or not. If he felt threaten by the rest of the bikers, then he did flee in fear for his life and his family’s life. Perfectly legal. Mieses, if he really was trying to calm things down were just associated w/ the wrong crowd and being in the wrong place at a wrong time. Also, he ride his bike w/ no license and walked in front of a car on a freeway. Since when is that a smart or legal thing to do?

FYI, Lien’s wife did call 911, several times. So did many other people. There were over 200 911 calls about the bikers that day.

You’re right, lets hope the system will work this out and toss all those thugs in jail.

[all]

[quote=patb]
none of these chuckleheads had broken a window, none of them blown a tire,
sure the crowf was pissed. [/quote]

There are reports of tire(s) being slashed during the first stop. There are pictures of the car with the front-right tire peeled off.

[SD Realtor]

“Welcome back briansd….How have you been?”

Not surprising to any of us.

[outtamojo]

“Lien needed to stay where he was, chill out, call 911”

I am appalled to see comments like this still floating around.

[ucodegen]

[quote=patb]the problem is Mieses may not have been part of the problem.

his wife claims mieses was trying to calm the crowd down.[/quote]By blocking the Land Rover by standing in front of him and preventing Lien from safely driving down the road?? umm.. that is called illegal detainment and kidnapping, and at least one of the bikers have been charged with it. You obviously have your head up where it don’t shine. The bikers did several aggressive acts to Lien before Lien did anything – look at the video and timeline indicated (earlier posts). This situation has also caused at least one cop, that was riding in the group, to lose their freedom. And if it hasn’t been clear to you from prior acts, cops tend to protect their own. It takes a lot for them to turn one in.
[quote=patb]As i see it, this was a garden variety traffic accident.
then it got a little tense, then lien drove through the crowd.
the mieses guy got run over[/quote]As I see it, you are blind. Did you not notice that none of the bikes are running license plates? That the biker in white with black vest actually drove into Liens lane along the drivers side door followed by cutting in front and braking (swoop and squat). Why would you take the plates off of a registered motorcycle? Why would you intentionally cut in front of another vehicle and hit the brakes.. its all on video.
[quote=patb]
If mieses was threatening lien, lien needed to be in “Reasonable fear of bodily harm” the problem is lien was inside a range rover, that was perfectly sound.[/quote]Again, you deserve the moniker of idiot as well as knucklehead. Lien was pulled out of the vehicle, as was his wife further down the road, so obviously being inside the Range Rover was not necessarily perfectly sound. The motorcyclists took several initial act that were illegal to before Lien did anything.
[quote=patb]
none of these chuckleheads had broken a window, none of them blown a tire,[/quote]wrong knucklehead. Take a look of the pictures of the Range Rover on the tow truck. No right front tire.. not even any shred of rubber on the rim. This tells you that the right front tire was run for a bit while flat.
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2013/10/04/range-rover-involved-in-highway-melee-is-towed-to-precinct/

[quote=patb]
Lien needed to stay where he was, chill out, call 911.

now he’s facing a couple of million in lawsuits, he’s facing
a long messy, career destroying swarm of publicity.

i’m not going to join either side, the cops have arrested the guys who kicked his ass, and the lawyers are suing lien.

i’ll let the system work[/quote]Lien was repeatedly calling 911. You really don’t want to add to your current demonstration of ignorance. You already took a side. You could have kept your trap shut. You can’t make a statement indicating that Lien was wrong, and then say that you are not going to join either side. You already did. Too Late. Yes, Lien may be facing a lawsuit, but I suspect that it may blow up in Gloria’s face. She does not have a high success ratio, except for being able to get her face in the media. Standing in front of the Range Rover and using your body to block it while in the middle of the freeway can be considered aiding in illegal detainment/kidnapping.

[ucodegen]

[quote=flu][quote=FlyerInHi]SUV runs over motorcyclist who did nothing to the SUV driver. That fact taken by itself sounds worse than the 200# husband beating his 100# wife.

You want facts or context; and if context, how much context?[/quote]

Welcome back briansd….How have you been?[/quote]If that is the case, maybe ‘FlyerIsHi’ or ‘FlyerIsHigh’ is a better one?

[Coronita]

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[joec]

[quote=patb]the problem is Mieses may not have been part of the problem.

his wife claims mieses was trying to calm the crowd down.

As i see it, this was a garden variety traffic accident.
then it got a little tense, then lien drove through the crowd.
the mieses guy got run over

then it just got stupid.

If mieses was threatening lien, lien needed to be in “Reasonable fear of bodily harm” the problem is lien was inside a range rover, that was perfectly sound.
none of these chuckleheads had broken a window, none of them blown a tire,
sure the crowf was pissed. if you drive badly and run over a pedestrian the bystanders will get pissed too.

if you then drive through the crowd of angry pedestrians, because one slapped his hand on the trunk, well, that’s aggravated assault.

Lien needed to stay where he was, chill out, call 911.

now he’s facing a couple of million in lawsuits, he’s facing
a long messy, career destroying swarm of publicity.

i’m not going to join either side, the cops have arrested the guys who kicked his ass, and the lawyers are suing lien.

i’ll let the system work[/quote]

Just added you to my ignore list for being an ignorant fool…

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”

[ocrenter]

[quote=flu][quote=FlyerInHi]SUV runs over motorcyclist who did nothing to the SUV driver. That fact taken by itself sounds worse than the 200# husband beating his 100# wife.

You want facts or context; and if context, how much context?[/quote]

Welcome back briansd….How have you been?[/quote]

🙂

[an]

[quote=flu][quote=FlyerInHi]SUV runs over motorcyclist who did nothing to the SUV driver. That fact taken by itself sounds worse than the 200# husband beating his 100# wife.

You want facts or context; and if context, how much context?[/quote]

Welcome back briansd….How have you been?[/quote]
Aww, you scared him away.

[ocrenter]

[quote=AN][quote=flu][quote=FlyerInHi]SUV runs over motorcyclist who did nothing to the SUV driver. That fact taken by itself sounds worse than the 200# husband beating his 100# wife.

You want facts or context; and if context, how much context?[/quote]

Welcome back briansd….How have you been?[/quote]
Aww, you scared him away.[/quote]

Quick, somebody start talking about medical care in Thailand, the obesity epidemic…. wait, flu, start attacking liberals again, that’ll draw him out. Hurry, quick, stat!!!

[Coronita]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=AN][quote=flu][quote=FlyerInHi]SUV runs over motorcyclist who did nothing to the SUV driver. That fact taken by itself sounds worse than the 200# husband beating his 100# wife.

You want facts or context; and if context, how much context?[/quote]

Welcome back briansd….How have you been?[/quote]
Aww, you scared him away.[/quote]

Quick, somebody start talking about medical care in Thailand, the obesity epidemic…. wait, flu, start attacking liberals again, that’ll draw him out. Hurry, quick, stat!!![/quote]

lol

I’m a reformed person. No really, I am.
I’m liberal tolerant these days….
My medication helps out a lot. 🙂

Thanks for the morning chuckle ocr…

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