OT: Gay History in California Public Schools

[Anonymous]

I don’t think you understand what jstoez is trying to convey. But first let me correct you – the phrase “separation of church and state” is *not* in the Constitution. Not sure you realize it but here in San Diego, 43.2% of our property taxes is allocated to public schools. For example, a $300K house at 1.1125%, 43.2% of that is $1442 – that’s a decent chunk of change for a lower-tier home. Again, most people do not agree with homosexuality and especially do not want it shoved down the throats of our children. No…we’re not homophobic, intolerant nor hateful. We simply don’t agree. And I definitely do not agree with allocating 43.2% of my money to institutions that promote this as normal. Promoting sexual orientation does not belong in the classroom and the government should not make it a mandate. As mentioned earlier, my kids attend parochial school, which, by the way is NOT funded by the 43.2% I pay. It would be fair for all if that 43.2% was used as a voucher so that folks can send their children to a school of their choice.

[SK in CV]

[quote=swdad] It would be fair for all if that 43.2% was used as a voucher so that folks can send their children to a school of their choice.[/quote]

Why the hell should tax dollars go to pay for your bigotry? (Your own words belie your claims to the contrary.)

[SK in CV]

[quote=swdad] It would be fair for all if that 43.2% was used as a voucher so that folks can send their children to a school of their choice.[/quote]

Why the hell should tax dollars go to pay for your bigotry? (Your own words belie your claims to the contrary.)

[SK in CV]

[quote=swdad] It would be fair for all if that 43.2% was used as a voucher so that folks can send their children to a school of their choice.[/quote]

Why the hell should tax dollars go to pay for your bigotry? (Your own words belie your claims to the contrary.)

[SK in CV]

[quote=swdad] It would be fair for all if that 43.2% was used as a voucher so that folks can send their children to a school of their choice.[/quote]

Why the hell should tax dollars go to pay for your bigotry? (Your own words belie your claims to the contrary.)

[SK in CV]

[quote=swdad] It would be fair for all if that 43.2% was used as a voucher so that folks can send their children to a school of their choice.[/quote]

Why the hell should tax dollars go to pay for your bigotry? (Your own words belie your claims to the contrary.)

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
2. Obese people. why not include social studies to include the contributions that obese people have made to our society. Obese people in school get picked on all the time. Even liberal folks like some people here (not naming names), who champion diversity, always rails against “fat people”….

When does this hypersensitivity “training” ever going to end???[/quote]

BTW, I’m all for a mandatory weight management class and teaching kids where food comes from and how to cook it. It might be a good thing to start vegetable gardens on school grounds also.

Obesity is manageable. The problem is that kids think that eating pizza and drinking coke in front of the TV is normal. Not.

Oscar Wilde was gay and fat. He was also persecuted for being gay. Add him to the reading assignments.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
2. Obese people. why not include social studies to include the contributions that obese people have made to our society. Obese people in school get picked on all the time. Even liberal folks like some people here (not naming names), who champion diversity, always rails against “fat people”….

When does this hypersensitivity “training” ever going to end???[/quote]

BTW, I’m all for a mandatory weight management class and teaching kids where food comes from and how to cook it. It might be a good thing to start vegetable gardens on school grounds also.

Obesity is manageable. The problem is that kids think that eating pizza and drinking coke in front of the TV is normal. Not.

Oscar Wilde was gay and fat. He was also persecuted for being gay. Add him to the reading assignments.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
2. Obese people. why not include social studies to include the contributions that obese people have made to our society. Obese people in school get picked on all the time. Even liberal folks like some people here (not naming names), who champion diversity, always rails against “fat people”….

When does this hypersensitivity “training” ever going to end???[/quote]

BTW, I’m all for a mandatory weight management class and teaching kids where food comes from and how to cook it. It might be a good thing to start vegetable gardens on school grounds also.

Obesity is manageable. The problem is that kids think that eating pizza and drinking coke in front of the TV is normal. Not.

Oscar Wilde was gay and fat. He was also persecuted for being gay. Add him to the reading assignments.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
2. Obese people. why not include social studies to include the contributions that obese people have made to our society. Obese people in school get picked on all the time. Even liberal folks like some people here (not naming names), who champion diversity, always rails against “fat people”….

When does this hypersensitivity “training” ever going to end???[/quote]

BTW, I’m all for a mandatory weight management class and teaching kids where food comes from and how to cook it. It might be a good thing to start vegetable gardens on school grounds also.

Obesity is manageable. The problem is that kids think that eating pizza and drinking coke in front of the TV is normal. Not.

Oscar Wilde was gay and fat. He was also persecuted for being gay. Add him to the reading assignments.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
2. Obese people. why not include social studies to include the contributions that obese people have made to our society. Obese people in school get picked on all the time. Even liberal folks like some people here (not naming names), who champion diversity, always rails against “fat people”….

When does this hypersensitivity “training” ever going to end???[/quote]

BTW, I’m all for a mandatory weight management class and teaching kids where food comes from and how to cook it. It might be a good thing to start vegetable gardens on school grounds also.

Obesity is manageable. The problem is that kids think that eating pizza and drinking coke in front of the TV is normal. Not.

Oscar Wilde was gay and fat. He was also persecuted for being gay. Add him to the reading assignments.

[Shadowfax]

[quote=swdad]I don’t think you understand what jstoez is trying to convey. But first let me correct you – the phrase “separation of church and state” is *not* in the Constitution. Not sure you realize it but here in San Diego, 43.2% of our property taxes is allocated to public schools. For example, a $300K house at 1.1125%, 43.2% of that is $1442 – that’s a decent chunk of change for a lower-tier home. Again, most people do not agree with homosexuality and especially do not want it shoved down the throats of our children. No…we’re not homophobic, intolerant nor hateful. We simply don’t agree. And I definitely do not agree with allocating 43.2% of my money to institutions that promote this as normal. Promoting sexual orientation does not belong in the classroom and the government should not make it a mandate. As mentioned earlier, my kids attend parochial school, which, by the way is NOT funded by the 43.2% I pay. It would be fair for all if that 43.2% was used as a voucher so that folks can send their children to a school of their choice.[/quote]

I don’t think you understand that the entirety of your property tax is not being allocated to “promoting sexual orientation.” All the bill advocates doing is including homosexuals in the discourse of applicable classes. And you unfortunately don’t have a choice whether to pay property tax and if you send your kid to parochial school, you HAVE made a choice. It’s just not funded by your taxes.

Oh, and who are “most people.” I think your view is skewed by those with whom you associate. My views are skewed by the fact that I know and respect a lot of gay people and their straight friends.

I hope you are not sending your kids to a catholic school, cause then I could say that most of your school’s leaders do believe in homosexuality. But they choose to educate people about in private. (Yes, I have issues with people in leadership taking advantage of kids like that and then LYING about it or covering it up. If you are gay, be gay. Don’t hide behind a psalter then abuse boys in your “spiritual care”.)

[Shadowfax]

[quote=swdad]I don’t think you understand what jstoez is trying to convey. But first let me correct you – the phrase “separation of church and state” is *not* in the Constitution. Not sure you realize it but here in San Diego, 43.2% of our property taxes is allocated to public schools. For example, a $300K house at 1.1125%, 43.2% of that is $1442 – that’s a decent chunk of change for a lower-tier home. Again, most people do not agree with homosexuality and especially do not want it shoved down the throats of our children. No…we’re not homophobic, intolerant nor hateful. We simply don’t agree. And I definitely do not agree with allocating 43.2% of my money to institutions that promote this as normal. Promoting sexual orientation does not belong in the classroom and the government should not make it a mandate. As mentioned earlier, my kids attend parochial school, which, by the way is NOT funded by the 43.2% I pay. It would be fair for all if that 43.2% was used as a voucher so that folks can send their children to a school of their choice.[/quote]

I don’t think you understand that the entirety of your property tax is not being allocated to “promoting sexual orientation.” All the bill advocates doing is including homosexuals in the discourse of applicable classes. And you unfortunately don’t have a choice whether to pay property tax and if you send your kid to parochial school, you HAVE made a choice. It’s just not funded by your taxes.

Oh, and who are “most people.” I think your view is skewed by those with whom you associate. My views are skewed by the fact that I know and respect a lot of gay people and their straight friends.

I hope you are not sending your kids to a catholic school, cause then I could say that most of your school’s leaders do believe in homosexuality. But they choose to educate people about in private. (Yes, I have issues with people in leadership taking advantage of kids like that and then LYING about it or covering it up. If you are gay, be gay. Don’t hide behind a psalter then abuse boys in your “spiritual care”.)

[Shadowfax]

[quote=swdad]I don’t think you understand what jstoez is trying to convey. But first let me correct you – the phrase “separation of church and state” is *not* in the Constitution. Not sure you realize it but here in San Diego, 43.2% of our property taxes is allocated to public schools. For example, a $300K house at 1.1125%, 43.2% of that is $1442 – that’s a decent chunk of change for a lower-tier home. Again, most people do not agree with homosexuality and especially do not want it shoved down the throats of our children. No…we’re not homophobic, intolerant nor hateful. We simply don’t agree. And I definitely do not agree with allocating 43.2% of my money to institutions that promote this as normal. Promoting sexual orientation does not belong in the classroom and the government should not make it a mandate. As mentioned earlier, my kids attend parochial school, which, by the way is NOT funded by the 43.2% I pay. It would be fair for all if that 43.2% was used as a voucher so that folks can send their children to a school of their choice.[/quote]

I don’t think you understand that the entirety of your property tax is not being allocated to “promoting sexual orientation.” All the bill advocates doing is including homosexuals in the discourse of applicable classes. And you unfortunately don’t have a choice whether to pay property tax and if you send your kid to parochial school, you HAVE made a choice. It’s just not funded by your taxes.

Oh, and who are “most people.” I think your view is skewed by those with whom you associate. My views are skewed by the fact that I know and respect a lot of gay people and their straight friends.

I hope you are not sending your kids to a catholic school, cause then I could say that most of your school’s leaders do believe in homosexuality. But they choose to educate people about in private. (Yes, I have issues with people in leadership taking advantage of kids like that and then LYING about it or covering it up. If you are gay, be gay. Don’t hide behind a psalter then abuse boys in your “spiritual care”.)

[Shadowfax]

[quote=swdad]I don’t think you understand what jstoez is trying to convey. But first let me correct you – the phrase “separation of church and state” is *not* in the Constitution. Not sure you realize it but here in San Diego, 43.2% of our property taxes is allocated to public schools. For example, a $300K house at 1.1125%, 43.2% of that is $1442 – that’s a decent chunk of change for a lower-tier home. Again, most people do not agree with homosexuality and especially do not want it shoved down the throats of our children. No…we’re not homophobic, intolerant nor hateful. We simply don’t agree. And I definitely do not agree with allocating 43.2% of my money to institutions that promote this as normal. Promoting sexual orientation does not belong in the classroom and the government should not make it a mandate. As mentioned earlier, my kids attend parochial school, which, by the way is NOT funded by the 43.2% I pay. It would be fair for all if that 43.2% was used as a voucher so that folks can send their children to a school of their choice.[/quote]

I don’t think you understand that the entirety of your property tax is not being allocated to “promoting sexual orientation.” All the bill advocates doing is including homosexuals in the discourse of applicable classes. And you unfortunately don’t have a choice whether to pay property tax and if you send your kid to parochial school, you HAVE made a choice. It’s just not funded by your taxes.

Oh, and who are “most people.” I think your view is skewed by those with whom you associate. My views are skewed by the fact that I know and respect a lot of gay people and their straight friends.

I hope you are not sending your kids to a catholic school, cause then I could say that most of your school’s leaders do believe in homosexuality. But they choose to educate people about in private. (Yes, I have issues with people in leadership taking advantage of kids like that and then LYING about it or covering it up. If you are gay, be gay. Don’t hide behind a psalter then abuse boys in your “spiritual care”.)

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