OT: Gay History in California Public Schools

[Shadowfax]

[quote=jstoesz]If you can not admit that you want to teach other people’s kids your own worldview, then this discussion is pointless. The corollary here is that you also want to drown out other people’s world views in the process. This is absurd, and this game will never end. If you want the government to have this level of control, one day you will find yourself in the minority, with your tax dollars getting siphoned off in huge amounts to support things you find offensive. And that too is wrong![/quote]

A worldview is by definition expansive not exclusive. I don’t want to exclude ID from RELIGION classes, but I don’t have a problem with including as much detail about history as is feasible in the curriculum. In CA especially, there is a unique set of factors that made the state what it is today, and the homosexual population of SF in particular makes for interesting course material.

The article indicates that the schools will have discretion about when and how to introduct these materials. I don’t see any need to discuss sexuality as such, but just to attribute the contributions that different groups of people have made seems sufficient.

As for your property tax dollars, you could always sell your house and rent and then you wouldn’t have to worry about that part!

[Shadowfax]

[quote=jstoesz]There goes that civil discourse…

Have a nice day.[/quote]

I didn’t see anything there that was uncivil…

[Shadowfax]

[quote=jstoesz]There goes that civil discourse…

Have a nice day.[/quote]

I didn’t see anything there that was uncivil…

[Shadowfax]

[quote=jstoesz]There goes that civil discourse…

Have a nice day.[/quote]

I didn’t see anything there that was uncivil…

[Shadowfax]

[quote=jstoesz]There goes that civil discourse…

Have a nice day.[/quote]

I didn’t see anything there that was uncivil…

[Shadowfax]

[quote=jstoesz]There goes that civil discourse…

Have a nice day.[/quote]

I didn’t see anything there that was uncivil…

[jstoesz]

Instead of responding to the main thesis of my post, why not just go for a floating tertiary sentence? It is so much easier.

I was attempting to reframe the argument. To get to a simpler basis, but you do not want to engage with me. I do not wish to talk about the merits of any of these topics. There will always be disagreements abut curriculum specifically, but why do we even need to have them.

I could go on a long tirade about renters and prop taxes here, but that would not be to the point.

[jstoesz]

Instead of responding to the main thesis of my post, why not just go for a floating tertiary sentence? It is so much easier.

I was attempting to reframe the argument. To get to a simpler basis, but you do not want to engage with me. I do not wish to talk about the merits of any of these topics. There will always be disagreements abut curriculum specifically, but why do we even need to have them.

I could go on a long tirade about renters and prop taxes here, but that would not be to the point.

[jstoesz]

Instead of responding to the main thesis of my post, why not just go for a floating tertiary sentence? It is so much easier.

I was attempting to reframe the argument. To get to a simpler basis, but you do not want to engage with me. I do not wish to talk about the merits of any of these topics. There will always be disagreements abut curriculum specifically, but why do we even need to have them.

I could go on a long tirade about renters and prop taxes here, but that would not be to the point.

[jstoesz]

Instead of responding to the main thesis of my post, why not just go for a floating tertiary sentence? It is so much easier.

I was attempting to reframe the argument. To get to a simpler basis, but you do not want to engage with me. I do not wish to talk about the merits of any of these topics. There will always be disagreements abut curriculum specifically, but why do we even need to have them.

I could go on a long tirade about renters and prop taxes here, but that would not be to the point.

[jstoesz]

Instead of responding to the main thesis of my post, why not just go for a floating tertiary sentence? It is so much easier.

I was attempting to reframe the argument. To get to a simpler basis, but you do not want to engage with me. I do not wish to talk about the merits of any of these topics. There will always be disagreements abut curriculum specifically, but why do we even need to have them.

I could go on a long tirade about renters and prop taxes here, but that would not be to the point.

[jstoesz]

[quote=Shadowfax][quote=jstoesz]There goes that civil discourse…

Have a nice day.[/quote]

I didn’t see anything there that was uncivil…[/quote]

[quote=Shadowfax]I hope you are not sending your kids to a catholic school, cause then I could say that most of your school’s leaders do believe in homosexuality. But they choose to educate people about in private. (Yes, I have issues with people in leadership taking advantage of kids like that and then LYING about it or covering it up. If you are gay, be gay. Don’t hide behind a psalter then abuse boys in your “spiritual care”.)[/quote]

kids never get raped at public schools…

[jstoesz]

[quote=Shadowfax][quote=jstoesz]There goes that civil discourse…

Have a nice day.[/quote]

I didn’t see anything there that was uncivil…[/quote]

[quote=Shadowfax]I hope you are not sending your kids to a catholic school, cause then I could say that most of your school’s leaders do believe in homosexuality. But they choose to educate people about in private. (Yes, I have issues with people in leadership taking advantage of kids like that and then LYING about it or covering it up. If you are gay, be gay. Don’t hide behind a psalter then abuse boys in your “spiritual care”.)[/quote]

kids never get raped at public schools…

[jstoesz]

[quote=Shadowfax][quote=jstoesz]There goes that civil discourse…

Have a nice day.[/quote]

I didn’t see anything there that was uncivil…[/quote]

[quote=Shadowfax]I hope you are not sending your kids to a catholic school, cause then I could say that most of your school’s leaders do believe in homosexuality. But they choose to educate people about in private. (Yes, I have issues with people in leadership taking advantage of kids like that and then LYING about it or covering it up. If you are gay, be gay. Don’t hide behind a psalter then abuse boys in your “spiritual care”.)[/quote]

kids never get raped at public schools…

[jstoesz]

[quote=Shadowfax][quote=jstoesz]There goes that civil discourse…

Have a nice day.[/quote]

I didn’t see anything there that was uncivil…[/quote]

[quote=Shadowfax]I hope you are not sending your kids to a catholic school, cause then I could say that most of your school’s leaders do believe in homosexuality. But they choose to educate people about in private. (Yes, I have issues with people in leadership taking advantage of kids like that and then LYING about it or covering it up. If you are gay, be gay. Don’t hide behind a psalter then abuse boys in your “spiritual care”.)[/quote]

kids never get raped at public schools…

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