Lord of the Flies

[CA renter]

[quote=CONCHO]They’re just imitating the overlords. The hedge fundies in the City of London and Wall Street are doing this sort of thing to countries around the globe from the safety of their gleaming office towers on a much larger scale and with much more serious consequences. They get away with it and go home every night to their zillion dollar condos and do a bunch of cocaine while the rest of us schlubs watch our 401Ks dwindle and our pensions disappear.

Seriously, there is no rule of law for those at the top so why are we surprised when those at the bottom don’t pay attention to it either?[/quote]

It’s difficult for many people to perceive it in any other way — the richest have gotten particularly brazen about their looting and plundering, lately.

[scaredyclassic]

no one wanted any new clothes for school. they told my wife, “we have some shorts already”. funny. School clothes shopping used to be a big deal in my family when i was growing up. we got dressed up for the frist day of school. I recall coveting certain brands. My kids missed that. Homeschoolers bubble.

My oldest has a weird thing he’s trying to do in terms of clthes; he has one sweatshirt, a zippered grey one which he is trying to wear every day of high school. It’s shredding a bit the zippers broke, he’s a junior but he’s still wearing it. Hecsays he will retire it whfn he graduates. Cracks me up, puzzles my wife but I get it. He likes watching it fray and decay. He doesn’t wash it much. We have to confiscate it for the occasional wash.

kids did briefly consider the possibility of looting a jewelery store but the mechanics and difficulty of fencing seemed overwhelming and too risky. i also added that they would get far less than retail, and with all the risk and danger, basically it’d be easier to get a job. Crime doesn’t pay…well enough…

My antidrug discussions are also kinda detailed, involving drug purity, hormonal testosterone disruption, I like this one, seems good to attack anything that attacks masculinity. Mental developmental delays…seems better than just say no which didn’t work for me. The immediate kidlike response to just say no is, uh, why?

I try not to oversell the downside on drugs , acknowledging supershort term potential benefits buy then come down hard on the medium longterm issues.

Hopefully like their pa they’ll get paralysis by analysis on ghe issue of ingesting illegal substances.

What dopus came up w just say no.

[scaredyclassic]

no one wanted any new clothes for school. they told my wife, “we have some shorts already”. funny. School clothes shopping used to be a big deal in my family when i was growing up. we got dressed up for the frist day of school. I recall coveting certain brands. My kids missed that. Homeschoolers bubble.

My oldest has a weird thing he’s trying to do in terms of clthes; he has one sweatshirt, a zippered grey one which he is trying to wear every day of high school. It’s shredding a bit the zippers broke, he’s a junior but he’s still wearing it. Hecsays he will retire it whfn he graduates. Cracks me up, puzzles my wife but I get it. He likes watching it fray and decay. He doesn’t wash it much. We have to confiscate it for the occasional wash.

kids did briefly consider the possibility of looting a jewelery store but the mechanics and difficulty of fencing seemed overwhelming and too risky. i also added that they would get far less than retail, and with all the risk and danger, basically it’d be easier to get a job. Crime doesn’t pay…well enough…

My antidrug discussions are also kinda detailed, involving drug purity, hormonal testosterone disruption, I like this one, seems good to attack anything that attacks masculinity. Mental developmental delays…seems better than just say no which didn’t work for me. The immediate kidlike response to just say no is, uh, why?

I try not to oversell the downside on drugs , acknowledging supershort term potential benefits buy then come down hard on the medium longterm issues.

Hopefully like their pa they’ll get paralysis by analysis on ghe issue of ingesting illegal substances.

What dopus came up w just say no.

[scaredyclassic]

no one wanted any new clothes for school. they told my wife, “we have some shorts already”. funny. School clothes shopping used to be a big deal in my family when i was growing up. we got dressed up for the frist day of school. I recall coveting certain brands. My kids missed that. Homeschoolers bubble.

My oldest has a weird thing he’s trying to do in terms of clthes; he has one sweatshirt, a zippered grey one which he is trying to wear every day of high school. It’s shredding a bit the zippers broke, he’s a junior but he’s still wearing it. Hecsays he will retire it whfn he graduates. Cracks me up, puzzles my wife but I get it. He likes watching it fray and decay. He doesn’t wash it much. We have to confiscate it for the occasional wash.

kids did briefly consider the possibility of looting a jewelery store but the mechanics and difficulty of fencing seemed overwhelming and too risky. i also added that they would get far less than retail, and with all the risk and danger, basically it’d be easier to get a job. Crime doesn’t pay…well enough…

My antidrug discussions are also kinda detailed, involving drug purity, hormonal testosterone disruption, I like this one, seems good to attack anything that attacks masculinity. Mental developmental delays…seems better than just say no which didn’t work for me. The immediate kidlike response to just say no is, uh, why?

I try not to oversell the downside on drugs , acknowledging supershort term potential benefits buy then come down hard on the medium longterm issues.

Hopefully like their pa they’ll get paralysis by analysis on ghe issue of ingesting illegal substances.

What dopus came up w just say no.

[scaredyclassic]

no one wanted any new clothes for school. they told my wife, “we have some shorts already”. funny. School clothes shopping used to be a big deal in my family when i was growing up. we got dressed up for the frist day of school. I recall coveting certain brands. My kids missed that. Homeschoolers bubble.

My oldest has a weird thing he’s trying to do in terms of clthes; he has one sweatshirt, a zippered grey one which he is trying to wear every day of high school. It’s shredding a bit the zippers broke, he’s a junior but he’s still wearing it. Hecsays he will retire it whfn he graduates. Cracks me up, puzzles my wife but I get it. He likes watching it fray and decay. He doesn’t wash it much. We have to confiscate it for the occasional wash.

kids did briefly consider the possibility of looting a jewelery store but the mechanics and difficulty of fencing seemed overwhelming and too risky. i also added that they would get far less than retail, and with all the risk and danger, basically it’d be easier to get a job. Crime doesn’t pay…well enough…

My antidrug discussions are also kinda detailed, involving drug purity, hormonal testosterone disruption, I like this one, seems good to attack anything that attacks masculinity. Mental developmental delays…seems better than just say no which didn’t work for me. The immediate kidlike response to just say no is, uh, why?

I try not to oversell the downside on drugs , acknowledging supershort term potential benefits buy then come down hard on the medium longterm issues.

Hopefully like their pa they’ll get paralysis by analysis on ghe issue of ingesting illegal substances.

What dopus came up w just say no.

[scaredyclassic]

no one wanted any new clothes for school. they told my wife, “we have some shorts already”. funny. School clothes shopping used to be a big deal in my family when i was growing up. we got dressed up for the frist day of school. I recall coveting certain brands. My kids missed that. Homeschoolers bubble.

My oldest has a weird thing he’s trying to do in terms of clthes; he has one sweatshirt, a zippered grey one which he is trying to wear every day of high school. It’s shredding a bit the zippers broke, he’s a junior but he’s still wearing it. Hecsays he will retire it whfn he graduates. Cracks me up, puzzles my wife but I get it. He likes watching it fray and decay. He doesn’t wash it much. We have to confiscate it for the occasional wash.

kids did briefly consider the possibility of looting a jewelery store but the mechanics and difficulty of fencing seemed overwhelming and too risky. i also added that they would get far less than retail, and with all the risk and danger, basically it’d be easier to get a job. Crime doesn’t pay…well enough…

My antidrug discussions are also kinda detailed, involving drug purity, hormonal testosterone disruption, I like this one, seems good to attack anything that attacks masculinity. Mental developmental delays…seems better than just say no which didn’t work for me. The immediate kidlike response to just say no is, uh, why?

I try not to oversell the downside on drugs , acknowledging supershort term potential benefits buy then come down hard on the medium longterm issues.

Hopefully like their pa they’ll get paralysis by analysis on ghe issue of ingesting illegal substances.

What dopus came up w just say no.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=walterwhite]no one wanted any new clothes for school. they told my wife, “we have some shorts already”. funny. School clothes shopping used to be a big deal in my family when i was growing up. we got dressed up for the frist day of school. I recall coveting certain brands. My kids missed that. Homeschoolers bubble.

My oldest has a weird thing he’s trying to do in terms of clthes; he has one sweatshirt, a zippered grey one which he is trying to wear every day of high school. It’s shredding a bit the zippers broke, he’s a junior but he’s still wearing it. Hecsays he will retire it whfn he graduates. Cracks me up, puzzles my wife but I get it. He likes watching it fray and decay. He doesn’t wash it much. We have to confiscate it for the occasional wash.

kids did briefly consider the possibility of looting a jewelery store but the mechanics and difficulty of fencing seemed overwhelming and too risky. i also added that they would get far less than retail, and with all the risk and danger, basically it’d be easier to get a job. Crime doesn’t pay…well enough…

My antidrug discussions are also kinda detailed, involving drug purity, hormonal testosterone disruption, I like this one, seems good to attack anything that attacks masculinity. Mental developmental delays…seems better than just say no which didn’t work for me. The immediate kidlike response to just say no is, uh, why?

I try not to oversell the downside on drugs , acknowledging supershort term potential benefits buy then come down hard on the medium longterm issues.

Hopefully like their pa they’ll get paralysis by analysis on ghe issue of ingesting illegal substances.

What dopus came up w just say no.[/quote]

Lol, scaredy, in my neck of the woods, school now starts in the 3rd week of July. Who needs school clothes when a few pairs of shorts will do for the first few months? I agree that school clothes were big in the olden days. My mom got us 3 or 4 plaid dresses for $10. Girls weren’t allowed to wear pants/shorts to public school until I was in HS. We got an Easter outfit every year through 6th grade, complete with hat, gloves and patent shoes :). Yes, new clothes for kids were a BIG DEAL back then at certain times of the year.

You are in a PRIME POSITION to talk about the consequences of bad decisions to your kids, including the short and long term effects of drug use. I see you are using your position well, here, scaredy. Next time you have a chance to go on a tour (or arrange it for your kids) why not take them on a guided tour thru CYA in Norwalk? This will definitely get them thinking about what kids’ lives are like who have chosen to cross over to the “other side.” I think these tours have more impact on kids than having “McGruff the Crime Dog” visit school or “just say no” indoctrination.

Perhaps your kids can tour at the same time as a public school tour.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=walterwhite]no one wanted any new clothes for school. they told my wife, “we have some shorts already”. funny. School clothes shopping used to be a big deal in my family when i was growing up. we got dressed up for the frist day of school. I recall coveting certain brands. My kids missed that. Homeschoolers bubble.

My oldest has a weird thing he’s trying to do in terms of clthes; he has one sweatshirt, a zippered grey one which he is trying to wear every day of high school. It’s shredding a bit the zippers broke, he’s a junior but he’s still wearing it. Hecsays he will retire it whfn he graduates. Cracks me up, puzzles my wife but I get it. He likes watching it fray and decay. He doesn’t wash it much. We have to confiscate it for the occasional wash.

kids did briefly consider the possibility of looting a jewelery store but the mechanics and difficulty of fencing seemed overwhelming and too risky. i also added that they would get far less than retail, and with all the risk and danger, basically it’d be easier to get a job. Crime doesn’t pay…well enough…

My antidrug discussions are also kinda detailed, involving drug purity, hormonal testosterone disruption, I like this one, seems good to attack anything that attacks masculinity. Mental developmental delays…seems better than just say no which didn’t work for me. The immediate kidlike response to just say no is, uh, why?

I try not to oversell the downside on drugs , acknowledging supershort term potential benefits buy then come down hard on the medium longterm issues.

Hopefully like their pa they’ll get paralysis by analysis on ghe issue of ingesting illegal substances.

What dopus came up w just say no.[/quote]

Lol, scaredy, in my neck of the woods, school now starts in the 3rd week of July. Who needs school clothes when a few pairs of shorts will do for the first few months? I agree that school clothes were big in the olden days. My mom got us 3 or 4 plaid dresses for $10. Girls weren’t allowed to wear pants/shorts to public school until I was in HS. We got an Easter outfit every year through 6th grade, complete with hat, gloves and patent shoes :). Yes, new clothes for kids were a BIG DEAL back then at certain times of the year.

You are in a PRIME POSITION to talk about the consequences of bad decisions to your kids, including the short and long term effects of drug use. I see you are using your position well, here, scaredy. Next time you have a chance to go on a tour (or arrange it for your kids) why not take them on a guided tour thru CYA in Norwalk? This will definitely get them thinking about what kids’ lives are like who have chosen to cross over to the “other side.” I think these tours have more impact on kids than having “McGruff the Crime Dog” visit school or “just say no” indoctrination.

Perhaps your kids can tour at the same time as a public school tour.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=walterwhite]no one wanted any new clothes for school. they told my wife, “we have some shorts already”. funny. School clothes shopping used to be a big deal in my family when i was growing up. we got dressed up for the frist day of school. I recall coveting certain brands. My kids missed that. Homeschoolers bubble.

My oldest has a weird thing he’s trying to do in terms of clthes; he has one sweatshirt, a zippered grey one which he is trying to wear every day of high school. It’s shredding a bit the zippers broke, he’s a junior but he’s still wearing it. Hecsays he will retire it whfn he graduates. Cracks me up, puzzles my wife but I get it. He likes watching it fray and decay. He doesn’t wash it much. We have to confiscate it for the occasional wash.

kids did briefly consider the possibility of looting a jewelery store but the mechanics and difficulty of fencing seemed overwhelming and too risky. i also added that they would get far less than retail, and with all the risk and danger, basically it’d be easier to get a job. Crime doesn’t pay…well enough…

My antidrug discussions are also kinda detailed, involving drug purity, hormonal testosterone disruption, I like this one, seems good to attack anything that attacks masculinity. Mental developmental delays…seems better than just say no which didn’t work for me. The immediate kidlike response to just say no is, uh, why?

I try not to oversell the downside on drugs , acknowledging supershort term potential benefits buy then come down hard on the medium longterm issues.

Hopefully like their pa they’ll get paralysis by analysis on ghe issue of ingesting illegal substances.

What dopus came up w just say no.[/quote]

Lol, scaredy, in my neck of the woods, school now starts in the 3rd week of July. Who needs school clothes when a few pairs of shorts will do for the first few months? I agree that school clothes were big in the olden days. My mom got us 3 or 4 plaid dresses for $10. Girls weren’t allowed to wear pants/shorts to public school until I was in HS. We got an Easter outfit every year through 6th grade, complete with hat, gloves and patent shoes :). Yes, new clothes for kids were a BIG DEAL back then at certain times of the year.

You are in a PRIME POSITION to talk about the consequences of bad decisions to your kids, including the short and long term effects of drug use. I see you are using your position well, here, scaredy. Next time you have a chance to go on a tour (or arrange it for your kids) why not take them on a guided tour thru CYA in Norwalk? This will definitely get them thinking about what kids’ lives are like who have chosen to cross over to the “other side.” I think these tours have more impact on kids than having “McGruff the Crime Dog” visit school or “just say no” indoctrination.

Perhaps your kids can tour at the same time as a public school tour.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=walterwhite]no one wanted any new clothes for school. they told my wife, “we have some shorts already”. funny. School clothes shopping used to be a big deal in my family when i was growing up. we got dressed up for the frist day of school. I recall coveting certain brands. My kids missed that. Homeschoolers bubble.

My oldest has a weird thing he’s trying to do in terms of clthes; he has one sweatshirt, a zippered grey one which he is trying to wear every day of high school. It’s shredding a bit the zippers broke, he’s a junior but he’s still wearing it. Hecsays he will retire it whfn he graduates. Cracks me up, puzzles my wife but I get it. He likes watching it fray and decay. He doesn’t wash it much. We have to confiscate it for the occasional wash.

kids did briefly consider the possibility of looting a jewelery store but the mechanics and difficulty of fencing seemed overwhelming and too risky. i also added that they would get far less than retail, and with all the risk and danger, basically it’d be easier to get a job. Crime doesn’t pay…well enough…

My antidrug discussions are also kinda detailed, involving drug purity, hormonal testosterone disruption, I like this one, seems good to attack anything that attacks masculinity. Mental developmental delays…seems better than just say no which didn’t work for me. The immediate kidlike response to just say no is, uh, why?

I try not to oversell the downside on drugs , acknowledging supershort term potential benefits buy then come down hard on the medium longterm issues.

Hopefully like their pa they’ll get paralysis by analysis on ghe issue of ingesting illegal substances.

What dopus came up w just say no.[/quote]

Lol, scaredy, in my neck of the woods, school now starts in the 3rd week of July. Who needs school clothes when a few pairs of shorts will do for the first few months? I agree that school clothes were big in the olden days. My mom got us 3 or 4 plaid dresses for $10. Girls weren’t allowed to wear pants/shorts to public school until I was in HS. We got an Easter outfit every year through 6th grade, complete with hat, gloves and patent shoes :). Yes, new clothes for kids were a BIG DEAL back then at certain times of the year.

You are in a PRIME POSITION to talk about the consequences of bad decisions to your kids, including the short and long term effects of drug use. I see you are using your position well, here, scaredy. Next time you have a chance to go on a tour (or arrange it for your kids) why not take them on a guided tour thru CYA in Norwalk? This will definitely get them thinking about what kids’ lives are like who have chosen to cross over to the “other side.” I think these tours have more impact on kids than having “McGruff the Crime Dog” visit school or “just say no” indoctrination.

Perhaps your kids can tour at the same time as a public school tour.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=walterwhite]no one wanted any new clothes for school. they told my wife, “we have some shorts already”. funny. School clothes shopping used to be a big deal in my family when i was growing up. we got dressed up for the frist day of school. I recall coveting certain brands. My kids missed that. Homeschoolers bubble.

My oldest has a weird thing he’s trying to do in terms of clthes; he has one sweatshirt, a zippered grey one which he is trying to wear every day of high school. It’s shredding a bit the zippers broke, he’s a junior but he’s still wearing it. Hecsays he will retire it whfn he graduates. Cracks me up, puzzles my wife but I get it. He likes watching it fray and decay. He doesn’t wash it much. We have to confiscate it for the occasional wash.

kids did briefly consider the possibility of looting a jewelery store but the mechanics and difficulty of fencing seemed overwhelming and too risky. i also added that they would get far less than retail, and with all the risk and danger, basically it’d be easier to get a job. Crime doesn’t pay…well enough…

My antidrug discussions are also kinda detailed, involving drug purity, hormonal testosterone disruption, I like this one, seems good to attack anything that attacks masculinity. Mental developmental delays…seems better than just say no which didn’t work for me. The immediate kidlike response to just say no is, uh, why?

I try not to oversell the downside on drugs , acknowledging supershort term potential benefits buy then come down hard on the medium longterm issues.

Hopefully like their pa they’ll get paralysis by analysis on ghe issue of ingesting illegal substances.

What dopus came up w just say no.[/quote]

Lol, scaredy, in my neck of the woods, school now starts in the 3rd week of July. Who needs school clothes when a few pairs of shorts will do for the first few months? I agree that school clothes were big in the olden days. My mom got us 3 or 4 plaid dresses for $10. Girls weren’t allowed to wear pants/shorts to public school until I was in HS. We got an Easter outfit every year through 6th grade, complete with hat, gloves and patent shoes :). Yes, new clothes for kids were a BIG DEAL back then at certain times of the year.

You are in a PRIME POSITION to talk about the consequences of bad decisions to your kids, including the short and long term effects of drug use. I see you are using your position well, here, scaredy. Next time you have a chance to go on a tour (or arrange it for your kids) why not take them on a guided tour thru CYA in Norwalk? This will definitely get them thinking about what kids’ lives are like who have chosen to cross over to the “other side.” I think these tours have more impact on kids than having “McGruff the Crime Dog” visit school or “just say no” indoctrination.

Perhaps your kids can tour at the same time as a public school tour.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Arraya]Actually, I think the “ghetto culture” infiltrating middle class white kids via rap music thus causing an orgiastic consumer products feeding frenzy is a thesis you could probably sell to the coulter crowd. Well, done PR[/quote]

In the mid 1990s I spent a few months one summer working as a whitewater rafting guide on the American River. We generally had two types of clients:

One was “urban” kids that came as part of some charity program (e.g. Sierra Club’s “inner-city youth.”)

The other was kids from local “high-end” summer camps (mostly upper-middle class whites.)

It was striking how much one group wanted to be like the other. I remember one private school kid in particular that would mention how tough he was “because of where he was from” – and then he’d mention some moderately lower class neighbourhood that was adjacent to where he lived.

He claimed he did what he did because he “had to survive.” It was comical.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Arraya]Actually, I think the “ghetto culture” infiltrating middle class white kids via rap music thus causing an orgiastic consumer products feeding frenzy is a thesis you could probably sell to the coulter crowd. Well, done PR[/quote]

In the mid 1990s I spent a few months one summer working as a whitewater rafting guide on the American River. We generally had two types of clients:

One was “urban” kids that came as part of some charity program (e.g. Sierra Club’s “inner-city youth.”)

The other was kids from local “high-end” summer camps (mostly upper-middle class whites.)

It was striking how much one group wanted to be like the other. I remember one private school kid in particular that would mention how tough he was “because of where he was from” – and then he’d mention some moderately lower class neighbourhood that was adjacent to where he lived.

He claimed he did what he did because he “had to survive.” It was comical.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Arraya]Actually, I think the “ghetto culture” infiltrating middle class white kids via rap music thus causing an orgiastic consumer products feeding frenzy is a thesis you could probably sell to the coulter crowd. Well, done PR[/quote]

In the mid 1990s I spent a few months one summer working as a whitewater rafting guide on the American River. We generally had two types of clients:

One was “urban” kids that came as part of some charity program (e.g. Sierra Club’s “inner-city youth.”)

The other was kids from local “high-end” summer camps (mostly upper-middle class whites.)

It was striking how much one group wanted to be like the other. I remember one private school kid in particular that would mention how tough he was “because of where he was from” – and then he’d mention some moderately lower class neighbourhood that was adjacent to where he lived.

He claimed he did what he did because he “had to survive.” It was comical.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Arraya]Actually, I think the “ghetto culture” infiltrating middle class white kids via rap music thus causing an orgiastic consumer products feeding frenzy is a thesis you could probably sell to the coulter crowd. Well, done PR[/quote]

In the mid 1990s I spent a few months one summer working as a whitewater rafting guide on the American River. We generally had two types of clients:

One was “urban” kids that came as part of some charity program (e.g. Sierra Club’s “inner-city youth.”)

The other was kids from local “high-end” summer camps (mostly upper-middle class whites.)

It was striking how much one group wanted to be like the other. I remember one private school kid in particular that would mention how tough he was “because of where he was from” – and then he’d mention some moderately lower class neighbourhood that was adjacent to where he lived.

He claimed he did what he did because he “had to survive.” It was comical.

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