Lord of the Flies

[Arraya]

Actually, I think the “ghetto culture” infiltrating middle class white kids via rap music thus causing an orgiastic consumer products feeding frenzy is a thesis you could probably sell to the coulter crowd. Well, done PR

[eavesdropper]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=walterwhite]I was talking about a local riot w my kids and the prospect of looting at the mall. We all agreed there was basically nothing we wanted there, even for free.[/quote]

You raised your kids well, scaredy :)[/quote]

I second that, BG. Scaredy, awesome and awesomer!! You need to make a video on values to focus on when raising children.

Reminds me of my oldest (now almost 30). When he was 7, we were guests at a small brunch given by friends who were of a somewhat shallow nature, but made up somewhat for their lack of depth by entertaining us with elaborate tales of the “must haves” that they were in the process of purchasing. In fact, attending these gatherings was akin to being a spectator at a tennis match, your head moving back and forth to the one-upmanship going on between the guests, while you keep asking yourself, “What am I doing wrong that I can’t even begin to think about spending this kind of money?” I should add that I was very young at the time….

At any rate, my 7 yr-old son had been in another part of the house for a while, when suddenly I saw him coming back down the stairs, looking a bit down in the mouth. I asked him if anything was wrong, and why he wasn’t playing with the other kids. He said that he had been. “But then Chip started talking about the new car they were getting, and that it was imported, and Heather began bragging that they were getting a new car that cost more, and Chip said that they were getting a boat, too…..It just got too boring, so I came down here to see if there was anything going on.” He then looked around at all the adults, rolled his eyes, and got up to leave. Then he turned around and said, “I don’t understand why they’re even talking about this stuff. They’re acting like THEY’RE buying it, when it’s their parents, buying a whole bunch of they can’t afford so they can pretend they’re better than each other, Boring!”

When I recovered my composure, I was so proud. Kid was clearly ahead of his time.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=walterwhite]I was talking about a local riot w my kids and the prospect of looting at the mall. We all agreed there was basically nothing we wanted there, even for free.[/quote]

You raised your kids well, scaredy :)[/quote]

I second that, BG. Scaredy, awesome and awesomer!! You need to make a video on values to focus on when raising children.

Reminds me of my oldest (now almost 30). When he was 7, we were guests at a small brunch given by friends who were of a somewhat shallow nature, but made up somewhat for their lack of depth by entertaining us with elaborate tales of the “must haves” that they were in the process of purchasing. In fact, attending these gatherings was akin to being a spectator at a tennis match, your head moving back and forth to the one-upmanship going on between the guests, while you keep asking yourself, “What am I doing wrong that I can’t even begin to think about spending this kind of money?” I should add that I was very young at the time….

At any rate, my 7 yr-old son had been in another part of the house for a while, when suddenly I saw him coming back down the stairs, looking a bit down in the mouth. I asked him if anything was wrong, and why he wasn’t playing with the other kids. He said that he had been. “But then Chip started talking about the new car they were getting, and that it was imported, and Heather began bragging that they were getting a new car that cost more, and Chip said that they were getting a boat, too…..It just got too boring, so I came down here to see if there was anything going on.” He then looked around at all the adults, rolled his eyes, and got up to leave. Then he turned around and said, “I don’t understand why they’re even talking about this stuff. They’re acting like THEY’RE buying it, when it’s their parents, buying a whole bunch of they can’t afford so they can pretend they’re better than each other, Boring!”

When I recovered my composure, I was so proud. Kid was clearly ahead of his time.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=walterwhite]I was talking about a local riot w my kids and the prospect of looting at the mall. We all agreed there was basically nothing we wanted there, even for free.[/quote]

You raised your kids well, scaredy :)[/quote]

I second that, BG. Scaredy, awesome and awesomer!! You need to make a video on values to focus on when raising children.

Reminds me of my oldest (now almost 30). When he was 7, we were guests at a small brunch given by friends who were of a somewhat shallow nature, but made up somewhat for their lack of depth by entertaining us with elaborate tales of the “must haves” that they were in the process of purchasing. In fact, attending these gatherings was akin to being a spectator at a tennis match, your head moving back and forth to the one-upmanship going on between the guests, while you keep asking yourself, “What am I doing wrong that I can’t even begin to think about spending this kind of money?” I should add that I was very young at the time….

At any rate, my 7 yr-old son had been in another part of the house for a while, when suddenly I saw him coming back down the stairs, looking a bit down in the mouth. I asked him if anything was wrong, and why he wasn’t playing with the other kids. He said that he had been. “But then Chip started talking about the new car they were getting, and that it was imported, and Heather began bragging that they were getting a new car that cost more, and Chip said that they were getting a boat, too…..It just got too boring, so I came down here to see if there was anything going on.” He then looked around at all the adults, rolled his eyes, and got up to leave. Then he turned around and said, “I don’t understand why they’re even talking about this stuff. They’re acting like THEY’RE buying it, when it’s their parents, buying a whole bunch of they can’t afford so they can pretend they’re better than each other, Boring!”

When I recovered my composure, I was so proud. Kid was clearly ahead of his time.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=walterwhite]I was talking about a local riot w my kids and the prospect of looting at the mall. We all agreed there was basically nothing we wanted there, even for free.[/quote]

You raised your kids well, scaredy :)[/quote]

I second that, BG. Scaredy, awesome and awesomer!! You need to make a video on values to focus on when raising children.

Reminds me of my oldest (now almost 30). When he was 7, we were guests at a small brunch given by friends who were of a somewhat shallow nature, but made up somewhat for their lack of depth by entertaining us with elaborate tales of the “must haves” that they were in the process of purchasing. In fact, attending these gatherings was akin to being a spectator at a tennis match, your head moving back and forth to the one-upmanship going on between the guests, while you keep asking yourself, “What am I doing wrong that I can’t even begin to think about spending this kind of money?” I should add that I was very young at the time….

At any rate, my 7 yr-old son had been in another part of the house for a while, when suddenly I saw him coming back down the stairs, looking a bit down in the mouth. I asked him if anything was wrong, and why he wasn’t playing with the other kids. He said that he had been. “But then Chip started talking about the new car they were getting, and that it was imported, and Heather began bragging that they were getting a new car that cost more, and Chip said that they were getting a boat, too…..It just got too boring, so I came down here to see if there was anything going on.” He then looked around at all the adults, rolled his eyes, and got up to leave. Then he turned around and said, “I don’t understand why they’re even talking about this stuff. They’re acting like THEY’RE buying it, when it’s their parents, buying a whole bunch of they can’t afford so they can pretend they’re better than each other, Boring!”

When I recovered my composure, I was so proud. Kid was clearly ahead of his time.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=walterwhite]I was talking about a local riot w my kids and the prospect of looting at the mall. We all agreed there was basically nothing we wanted there, even for free.[/quote]

You raised your kids well, scaredy :)[/quote]

I second that, BG. Scaredy, awesome and awesomer!! You need to make a video on values to focus on when raising children.

Reminds me of my oldest (now almost 30). When he was 7, we were guests at a small brunch given by friends who were of a somewhat shallow nature, but made up somewhat for their lack of depth by entertaining us with elaborate tales of the “must haves” that they were in the process of purchasing. In fact, attending these gatherings was akin to being a spectator at a tennis match, your head moving back and forth to the one-upmanship going on between the guests, while you keep asking yourself, “What am I doing wrong that I can’t even begin to think about spending this kind of money?” I should add that I was very young at the time….

At any rate, my 7 yr-old son had been in another part of the house for a while, when suddenly I saw him coming back down the stairs, looking a bit down in the mouth. I asked him if anything was wrong, and why he wasn’t playing with the other kids. He said that he had been. “But then Chip started talking about the new car they were getting, and that it was imported, and Heather began bragging that they were getting a new car that cost more, and Chip said that they were getting a boat, too…..It just got too boring, so I came down here to see if there was anything going on.” He then looked around at all the adults, rolled his eyes, and got up to leave. Then he turned around and said, “I don’t understand why they’re even talking about this stuff. They’re acting like THEY’RE buying it, when it’s their parents, buying a whole bunch of they can’t afford so they can pretend they’re better than each other, Boring!”

When I recovered my composure, I was so proud. Kid was clearly ahead of his time.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=faterikcartman]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024690/UK-riots-2011-Britains-liberal-intelligentsia-smashed-virtually-social-value.html

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-08-10.html%5B/quote%5D

faterik, I hadn’t read these when I penned my response to Allan last night, in which I took exception to Mr. Hastings’ dogged insistence on aiming his spotlight of blame on the U.K’s “welfare class”. I stated that, while I realized that Mr. Hastings was discussing the youth of England, with whom I am not on first-name basis, I am familiar with the qualities of American youth, and while they are scarily similar to those mentioned by Mr. Hastings, they are not limited to the youth of our “welfare class”, but fairly evenly distributed across all socioeconomic classes and cultural situations.

I’m not sure of your reason for including these additional articles, but I sincerely hope that it was not to support the points made by Max Hastings. Despite his propensity to focus solely on youthful members of a single socioeconomic segment of society, he did attempt to delve a bit deeper into the subject matter, while refraining from seriously over-the-top stereotyping, than the title of the piece would have us believe.

The same cannot be said for the articles by Melanie Phillips and Ann Coulter. I fail to see how anyone of reasonable intellect can take the missives of these two “writers” seriously. Ms. Coulter’s pieces are so badly written and poorly supported that, every time I manage to read one, it seems that the author has inserted a subliminal message that is screaming, “This is a fake, just like all the ones that came before, and I’m just waiting for one of you idiots to call me on it so that I’ll be forced out of journalism, thereby permitting my fulltime indulgence in bulimia and my black leather fetish.”

Likewise, Ms. Phillips performs an admirable job of tying up the reasons and blame for the rioting in one neat little package of anger and irrationality. Indeed, I confess to being intrigued by the titles of many of her other columns, the links to which conveniently placed close by. Reading one after the other was like consuming a box of cheap chocolates: the outside appearance of the first lures you into its consumption, but the lack of quality ingredients leaves you feeling unsatisfied and a little queasy, and by the time you’ve eaten several, you come to the realization that they all taste the same, and that you’re sick because you’ve consumed way too much crap.

Like Ms. Coulter’s, Ms. Phillips’ “message” is composed of the same incredibly simplistic stereotypes and catch-phrases, and unfettered by anything resembling academic research or empirical evidence. Like Ms. Coulter, she delivers that same message in a violent and hurtful fashion that leaves permanent damage. Like Ms. Coulter, she is noncontrite and unapologetic, unyielding in her insistence that she is right, and defiant in her belief that she is relevant. Unfortunately, Ms. Phillips’ and Ms. Coulter’s editors, and those of other media outlets appear only too willing to reinforce those beliefs. In the process of giving these bitter, deluded women, who are completely devoid of writing talent and incapable of critical thought, an enormous platform from which they are able to continue the dissemination of their vitriolic prose.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=faterikcartman]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024690/UK-riots-2011-Britains-liberal-intelligentsia-smashed-virtually-social-value.html

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-08-10.html%5B/quote%5D

faterik, I hadn’t read these when I penned my response to Allan last night, in which I took exception to Mr. Hastings’ dogged insistence on aiming his spotlight of blame on the U.K’s “welfare class”. I stated that, while I realized that Mr. Hastings was discussing the youth of England, with whom I am not on first-name basis, I am familiar with the qualities of American youth, and while they are scarily similar to those mentioned by Mr. Hastings, they are not limited to the youth of our “welfare class”, but fairly evenly distributed across all socioeconomic classes and cultural situations.

I’m not sure of your reason for including these additional articles, but I sincerely hope that it was not to support the points made by Max Hastings. Despite his propensity to focus solely on youthful members of a single socioeconomic segment of society, he did attempt to delve a bit deeper into the subject matter, while refraining from seriously over-the-top stereotyping, than the title of the piece would have us believe.

The same cannot be said for the articles by Melanie Phillips and Ann Coulter. I fail to see how anyone of reasonable intellect can take the missives of these two “writers” seriously. Ms. Coulter’s pieces are so badly written and poorly supported that, every time I manage to read one, it seems that the author has inserted a subliminal message that is screaming, “This is a fake, just like all the ones that came before, and I’m just waiting for one of you idiots to call me on it so that I’ll be forced out of journalism, thereby permitting my fulltime indulgence in bulimia and my black leather fetish.”

Likewise, Ms. Phillips performs an admirable job of tying up the reasons and blame for the rioting in one neat little package of anger and irrationality. Indeed, I confess to being intrigued by the titles of many of her other columns, the links to which conveniently placed close by. Reading one after the other was like consuming a box of cheap chocolates: the outside appearance of the first lures you into its consumption, but the lack of quality ingredients leaves you feeling unsatisfied and a little queasy, and by the time you’ve eaten several, you come to the realization that they all taste the same, and that you’re sick because you’ve consumed way too much crap.

Like Ms. Coulter’s, Ms. Phillips’ “message” is composed of the same incredibly simplistic stereotypes and catch-phrases, and unfettered by anything resembling academic research or empirical evidence. Like Ms. Coulter, she delivers that same message in a violent and hurtful fashion that leaves permanent damage. Like Ms. Coulter, she is noncontrite and unapologetic, unyielding in her insistence that she is right, and defiant in her belief that she is relevant. Unfortunately, Ms. Phillips’ and Ms. Coulter’s editors, and those of other media outlets appear only too willing to reinforce those beliefs. In the process of giving these bitter, deluded women, who are completely devoid of writing talent and incapable of critical thought, an enormous platform from which they are able to continue the dissemination of their vitriolic prose.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=faterikcartman]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024690/UK-riots-2011-Britains-liberal-intelligentsia-smashed-virtually-social-value.html

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-08-10.html%5B/quote%5D

faterik, I hadn’t read these when I penned my response to Allan last night, in which I took exception to Mr. Hastings’ dogged insistence on aiming his spotlight of blame on the U.K’s “welfare class”. I stated that, while I realized that Mr. Hastings was discussing the youth of England, with whom I am not on first-name basis, I am familiar with the qualities of American youth, and while they are scarily similar to those mentioned by Mr. Hastings, they are not limited to the youth of our “welfare class”, but fairly evenly distributed across all socioeconomic classes and cultural situations.

I’m not sure of your reason for including these additional articles, but I sincerely hope that it was not to support the points made by Max Hastings. Despite his propensity to focus solely on youthful members of a single socioeconomic segment of society, he did attempt to delve a bit deeper into the subject matter, while refraining from seriously over-the-top stereotyping, than the title of the piece would have us believe.

The same cannot be said for the articles by Melanie Phillips and Ann Coulter. I fail to see how anyone of reasonable intellect can take the missives of these two “writers” seriously. Ms. Coulter’s pieces are so badly written and poorly supported that, every time I manage to read one, it seems that the author has inserted a subliminal message that is screaming, “This is a fake, just like all the ones that came before, and I’m just waiting for one of you idiots to call me on it so that I’ll be forced out of journalism, thereby permitting my fulltime indulgence in bulimia and my black leather fetish.”

Likewise, Ms. Phillips performs an admirable job of tying up the reasons and blame for the rioting in one neat little package of anger and irrationality. Indeed, I confess to being intrigued by the titles of many of her other columns, the links to which conveniently placed close by. Reading one after the other was like consuming a box of cheap chocolates: the outside appearance of the first lures you into its consumption, but the lack of quality ingredients leaves you feeling unsatisfied and a little queasy, and by the time you’ve eaten several, you come to the realization that they all taste the same, and that you’re sick because you’ve consumed way too much crap.

Like Ms. Coulter’s, Ms. Phillips’ “message” is composed of the same incredibly simplistic stereotypes and catch-phrases, and unfettered by anything resembling academic research or empirical evidence. Like Ms. Coulter, she delivers that same message in a violent and hurtful fashion that leaves permanent damage. Like Ms. Coulter, she is noncontrite and unapologetic, unyielding in her insistence that she is right, and defiant in her belief that she is relevant. Unfortunately, Ms. Phillips’ and Ms. Coulter’s editors, and those of other media outlets appear only too willing to reinforce those beliefs. In the process of giving these bitter, deluded women, who are completely devoid of writing talent and incapable of critical thought, an enormous platform from which they are able to continue the dissemination of their vitriolic prose.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=faterikcartman]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024690/UK-riots-2011-Britains-liberal-intelligentsia-smashed-virtually-social-value.html

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-08-10.html%5B/quote%5D

faterik, I hadn’t read these when I penned my response to Allan last night, in which I took exception to Mr. Hastings’ dogged insistence on aiming his spotlight of blame on the U.K’s “welfare class”. I stated that, while I realized that Mr. Hastings was discussing the youth of England, with whom I am not on first-name basis, I am familiar with the qualities of American youth, and while they are scarily similar to those mentioned by Mr. Hastings, they are not limited to the youth of our “welfare class”, but fairly evenly distributed across all socioeconomic classes and cultural situations.

I’m not sure of your reason for including these additional articles, but I sincerely hope that it was not to support the points made by Max Hastings. Despite his propensity to focus solely on youthful members of a single socioeconomic segment of society, he did attempt to delve a bit deeper into the subject matter, while refraining from seriously over-the-top stereotyping, than the title of the piece would have us believe.

The same cannot be said for the articles by Melanie Phillips and Ann Coulter. I fail to see how anyone of reasonable intellect can take the missives of these two “writers” seriously. Ms. Coulter’s pieces are so badly written and poorly supported that, every time I manage to read one, it seems that the author has inserted a subliminal message that is screaming, “This is a fake, just like all the ones that came before, and I’m just waiting for one of you idiots to call me on it so that I’ll be forced out of journalism, thereby permitting my fulltime indulgence in bulimia and my black leather fetish.”

Likewise, Ms. Phillips performs an admirable job of tying up the reasons and blame for the rioting in one neat little package of anger and irrationality. Indeed, I confess to being intrigued by the titles of many of her other columns, the links to which conveniently placed close by. Reading one after the other was like consuming a box of cheap chocolates: the outside appearance of the first lures you into its consumption, but the lack of quality ingredients leaves you feeling unsatisfied and a little queasy, and by the time you’ve eaten several, you come to the realization that they all taste the same, and that you’re sick because you’ve consumed way too much crap.

Like Ms. Coulter’s, Ms. Phillips’ “message” is composed of the same incredibly simplistic stereotypes and catch-phrases, and unfettered by anything resembling academic research or empirical evidence. Like Ms. Coulter, she delivers that same message in a violent and hurtful fashion that leaves permanent damage. Like Ms. Coulter, she is noncontrite and unapologetic, unyielding in her insistence that she is right, and defiant in her belief that she is relevant. Unfortunately, Ms. Phillips’ and Ms. Coulter’s editors, and those of other media outlets appear only too willing to reinforce those beliefs. In the process of giving these bitter, deluded women, who are completely devoid of writing talent and incapable of critical thought, an enormous platform from which they are able to continue the dissemination of their vitriolic prose.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=faterikcartman]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024690/UK-riots-2011-Britains-liberal-intelligentsia-smashed-virtually-social-value.html

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-08-10.html%5B/quote%5D

faterik, I hadn’t read these when I penned my response to Allan last night, in which I took exception to Mr. Hastings’ dogged insistence on aiming his spotlight of blame on the U.K’s “welfare class”. I stated that, while I realized that Mr. Hastings was discussing the youth of England, with whom I am not on first-name basis, I am familiar with the qualities of American youth, and while they are scarily similar to those mentioned by Mr. Hastings, they are not limited to the youth of our “welfare class”, but fairly evenly distributed across all socioeconomic classes and cultural situations.

I’m not sure of your reason for including these additional articles, but I sincerely hope that it was not to support the points made by Max Hastings. Despite his propensity to focus solely on youthful members of a single socioeconomic segment of society, he did attempt to delve a bit deeper into the subject matter, while refraining from seriously over-the-top stereotyping, than the title of the piece would have us believe.

The same cannot be said for the articles by Melanie Phillips and Ann Coulter. I fail to see how anyone of reasonable intellect can take the missives of these two “writers” seriously. Ms. Coulter’s pieces are so badly written and poorly supported that, every time I manage to read one, it seems that the author has inserted a subliminal message that is screaming, “This is a fake, just like all the ones that came before, and I’m just waiting for one of you idiots to call me on it so that I’ll be forced out of journalism, thereby permitting my fulltime indulgence in bulimia and my black leather fetish.”

Likewise, Ms. Phillips performs an admirable job of tying up the reasons and blame for the rioting in one neat little package of anger and irrationality. Indeed, I confess to being intrigued by the titles of many of her other columns, the links to which conveniently placed close by. Reading one after the other was like consuming a box of cheap chocolates: the outside appearance of the first lures you into its consumption, but the lack of quality ingredients leaves you feeling unsatisfied and a little queasy, and by the time you’ve eaten several, you come to the realization that they all taste the same, and that you’re sick because you’ve consumed way too much crap.

Like Ms. Coulter’s, Ms. Phillips’ “message” is composed of the same incredibly simplistic stereotypes and catch-phrases, and unfettered by anything resembling academic research or empirical evidence. Like Ms. Coulter, she delivers that same message in a violent and hurtful fashion that leaves permanent damage. Like Ms. Coulter, she is noncontrite and unapologetic, unyielding in her insistence that she is right, and defiant in her belief that she is relevant. Unfortunately, Ms. Phillips’ and Ms. Coulter’s editors, and those of other media outlets appear only too willing to reinforce those beliefs. In the process of giving these bitter, deluded women, who are completely devoid of writing talent and incapable of critical thought, an enormous platform from which they are able to continue the dissemination of their vitriolic prose.

[CA renter]

[quote=CONCHO]They’re just imitating the overlords. The hedge fundies in the City of London and Wall Street are doing this sort of thing to countries around the globe from the safety of their gleaming office towers on a much larger scale and with much more serious consequences. They get away with it and go home every night to their zillion dollar condos and do a bunch of cocaine while the rest of us schlubs watch our 401Ks dwindle and our pensions disappear.

Seriously, there is no rule of law for those at the top so why are we surprised when those at the bottom don’t pay attention to it either?[/quote]

It’s difficult for many people to perceive it in any other way — the richest have gotten particularly brazen about their looting and plundering, lately.

[CA renter]

[quote=CONCHO]They’re just imitating the overlords. The hedge fundies in the City of London and Wall Street are doing this sort of thing to countries around the globe from the safety of their gleaming office towers on a much larger scale and with much more serious consequences. They get away with it and go home every night to their zillion dollar condos and do a bunch of cocaine while the rest of us schlubs watch our 401Ks dwindle and our pensions disappear.

Seriously, there is no rule of law for those at the top so why are we surprised when those at the bottom don’t pay attention to it either?[/quote]

It’s difficult for many people to perceive it in any other way — the richest have gotten particularly brazen about their looting and plundering, lately.

[CA renter]

[quote=CONCHO]They’re just imitating the overlords. The hedge fundies in the City of London and Wall Street are doing this sort of thing to countries around the globe from the safety of their gleaming office towers on a much larger scale and with much more serious consequences. They get away with it and go home every night to their zillion dollar condos and do a bunch of cocaine while the rest of us schlubs watch our 401Ks dwindle and our pensions disappear.

Seriously, there is no rule of law for those at the top so why are we surprised when those at the bottom don’t pay attention to it either?[/quote]

It’s difficult for many people to perceive it in any other way — the richest have gotten particularly brazen about their looting and plundering, lately.

[CA renter]

[quote=CONCHO]They’re just imitating the overlords. The hedge fundies in the City of London and Wall Street are doing this sort of thing to countries around the globe from the safety of their gleaming office towers on a much larger scale and with much more serious consequences. They get away with it and go home every night to their zillion dollar condos and do a bunch of cocaine while the rest of us schlubs watch our 401Ks dwindle and our pensions disappear.

Seriously, there is no rule of law for those at the top so why are we surprised when those at the bottom don’t pay attention to it either?[/quote]

It’s difficult for many people to perceive it in any other way — the richest have gotten particularly brazen about their looting and plundering, lately.

[Author]

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