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August 11, 2011 at 8:50 AM #718826August 11, 2011 at 9:12 AM #717652
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Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The more things change, the more they stay the same.
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
— SocratesApparently, ancient Greece wasn’t such a Golden Age, either.[/quote]
Good quote.
Well, social decay and collapse is part of human history and well understood amongst a myriad of scholars. Hubris and irrational denial is part of all past social disintegrations. So is worshipping “former self” and romanticizing the past. And so is rebirth of new social orders and value systems.
It’s pretty much the same story over and over. Societies can’t change their behavior to deal with new problems – which always boils down to the ruling class. Institutions become completely corrupt, ossified and finally, irrelevant and a hinderance on social progress. While wide spread societal illness manifest.
August 11, 2011 at 9:12 AM #717740Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The more things change, the more they stay the same.
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
— SocratesApparently, ancient Greece wasn’t such a Golden Age, either.[/quote]
Good quote.
Well, social decay and collapse is part of human history and well understood amongst a myriad of scholars. Hubris and irrational denial is part of all past social disintegrations. So is worshipping “former self” and romanticizing the past. And so is rebirth of new social orders and value systems.
It’s pretty much the same story over and over. Societies can’t change their behavior to deal with new problems – which always boils down to the ruling class. Institutions become completely corrupt, ossified and finally, irrelevant and a hinderance on social progress. While wide spread societal illness manifest.
August 11, 2011 at 9:12 AM #718339Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The more things change, the more they stay the same.
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
— SocratesApparently, ancient Greece wasn’t such a Golden Age, either.[/quote]
Good quote.
Well, social decay and collapse is part of human history and well understood amongst a myriad of scholars. Hubris and irrational denial is part of all past social disintegrations. So is worshipping “former self” and romanticizing the past. And so is rebirth of new social orders and value systems.
It’s pretty much the same story over and over. Societies can’t change their behavior to deal with new problems – which always boils down to the ruling class. Institutions become completely corrupt, ossified and finally, irrelevant and a hinderance on social progress. While wide spread societal illness manifest.
August 11, 2011 at 9:12 AM #718491Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The more things change, the more they stay the same.
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
— SocratesApparently, ancient Greece wasn’t such a Golden Age, either.[/quote]
Good quote.
Well, social decay and collapse is part of human history and well understood amongst a myriad of scholars. Hubris and irrational denial is part of all past social disintegrations. So is worshipping “former self” and romanticizing the past. And so is rebirth of new social orders and value systems.
It’s pretty much the same story over and over. Societies can’t change their behavior to deal with new problems – which always boils down to the ruling class. Institutions become completely corrupt, ossified and finally, irrelevant and a hinderance on social progress. While wide spread societal illness manifest.
August 11, 2011 at 9:12 AM #718849Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The more things change, the more they stay the same.
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
— SocratesApparently, ancient Greece wasn’t such a Golden Age, either.[/quote]
Good quote.
Well, social decay and collapse is part of human history and well understood amongst a myriad of scholars. Hubris and irrational denial is part of all past social disintegrations. So is worshipping “former self” and romanticizing the past. And so is rebirth of new social orders and value systems.
It’s pretty much the same story over and over. Societies can’t change their behavior to deal with new problems – which always boils down to the ruling class. Institutions become completely corrupt, ossified and finally, irrelevant and a hinderance on social progress. While wide spread societal illness manifest.
August 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM #717664afx114
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]”Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
— Socrates[/quote]In other words, “Get off my lawn.”
August 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM #717753Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]”Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
— Socrates[/quote]In other words, “Get off my lawn.”
August 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM #718351Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]”Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
— Socrates[/quote]In other words, “Get off my lawn.”
August 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM #718504Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]”Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
— Socrates[/quote]In other words, “Get off my lawn.”
August 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM #718863Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]”Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
— Socrates[/quote]In other words, “Get off my lawn.”
August 11, 2011 at 9:28 AM #717669all
ParticipantIt’s kind of odd that he used ‘liberal’ in the title. European political liberals are not the same as the U.S. liberals. They are classical liberals like the domestic libertarians, not social liberals.
It’s one of those little differences, like Royale with Cheese.
August 11, 2011 at 9:28 AM #717758ParticipantIt’s kind of odd that he used ‘liberal’ in the title. European political liberals are not the same as the U.S. liberals. They are classical liberals like the domestic libertarians, not social liberals.
It’s one of those little differences, like Royale with Cheese.
August 11, 2011 at 9:28 AM #718356ParticipantIt’s kind of odd that he used ‘liberal’ in the title. European political liberals are not the same as the U.S. liberals. They are classical liberals like the domestic libertarians, not social liberals.
It’s one of those little differences, like Royale with Cheese.
August 11, 2011 at 9:28 AM #718508ParticipantIt’s kind of odd that he used ‘liberal’ in the title. European political liberals are not the same as the U.S. liberals. They are classical liberals like the domestic libertarians, not social liberals.
It’s one of those little differences, like Royale with Cheese.
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