Just wondering where all the “Bring it on people” are at

[CA renter]

SDR,

I was one of the people who said “bring it on” some time ago. Like the OP said, we were not wishing for it, just anticipating it, and hoping to get it over with as quickly as possible.

It’s not that I want to see anyone suffer — not at all — but that we need to get beyond this debt bubble and finally land in a place where people will be rewarded for WORK (not gambling, schmoozing, and financial alchemy).

None of this had to happen, and I was writing letters to politicians and law enforcement agencies years ago, trying to do my part to stop the insane lending practices that brought us here.

Agree with the OP who said the “service economy” BS was one of the first red flags. Then, we morphed into the “finance economy” which made even less sense. We were on a downward trajectory many years ago (I believe 1982 was the genesis of our problems, as credit began its massive expansion).

BTW, I know a number of people who work for govt, and can assure you they are NOT safe. Right now, there are a number of hiring freezes, pay freezes and lots of discussions about possible lay-offs. Some cities may scale back fire and police services as well (closing stations or rotating skeleton crews from station to station, downsizing crews, among other things).

NOBODY is safe, and no investment is safe, IMHO. We are all gamblers at this point, hoping that we can just tread water until this thing collapses and we can rebuild from scratch.

You are right, SDR. What the govt is now doing will absolutely make this recession/depression worse. No rules, no plan, everyone in power seems to be flying by the seat of their pants right now. Very scary, indeed!

[SD Realtor]

Gotcha CAR. well written and I understand where you are coming from.

[SD Realtor]

Gotcha CAR. well written and I understand where you are coming from.

[SD Realtor]

Gotcha CAR. well written and I understand where you are coming from.

[SD Realtor]

Gotcha CAR. well written and I understand where you are coming from.

[SD Realtor]

Gotcha CAR. well written and I understand where you are coming from.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=SD Realtor]
Breeze your posts have been reduced to caricatures of sarcasm based on your political beliefs. I am an electrical engineer with a BSEE from UCSD and 20 years in the industry as well as owning my own brokerage for almost 6 years now. I will gladly match my intelligence and skill level in most any field against you at any time.

I sleep very well at night because I have always been honest and up front with all of my clients.

Your posts are pretty much jokes these days.

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If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”

[TheBreeze]

[quote=SD Realtor]
Breeze your posts have been reduced to caricatures of sarcasm based on your political beliefs. I am an electrical engineer with a BSEE from UCSD and 20 years in the industry as well as owning my own brokerage for almost 6 years now. I will gladly match my intelligence and skill level in most any field against you at any time.

I sleep very well at night because I have always been honest and up front with all of my clients.

Your posts are pretty much jokes these days.

[/quote]

If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”

[TheBreeze]

[quote=SD Realtor]
Breeze your posts have been reduced to caricatures of sarcasm based on your political beliefs. I am an electrical engineer with a BSEE from UCSD and 20 years in the industry as well as owning my own brokerage for almost 6 years now. I will gladly match my intelligence and skill level in most any field against you at any time.

I sleep very well at night because I have always been honest and up front with all of my clients.

Your posts are pretty much jokes these days.

[/quote]

If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”

[TheBreeze]

[quote=SD Realtor]
Breeze your posts have been reduced to caricatures of sarcasm based on your political beliefs. I am an electrical engineer with a BSEE from UCSD and 20 years in the industry as well as owning my own brokerage for almost 6 years now. I will gladly match my intelligence and skill level in most any field against you at any time.

I sleep very well at night because I have always been honest and up front with all of my clients.

Your posts are pretty much jokes these days.

[/quote]

If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”

[TheBreeze]

[quote=SD Realtor]
Breeze your posts have been reduced to caricatures of sarcasm based on your political beliefs. I am an electrical engineer with a BSEE from UCSD and 20 years in the industry as well as owning my own brokerage for almost 6 years now. I will gladly match my intelligence and skill level in most any field against you at any time.

I sleep very well at night because I have always been honest and up front with all of my clients.

Your posts are pretty much jokes these days.

[/quote]

If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”

[Coronita]

[quote=TheBreeze]
If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”
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Breeze, with all due respect, it’s quite ironic, your high horse view about Realtors. If you are in sales, like I suspect you to be in, and which you seemed to confirm, when was the last time YOU haven’t stretched the truth( at the minimum) or flat out lied to make a sales…. and mislead a customer into some product/service that was overpromised and underdelivered.??????…Please….

As far as your notion of guilt by association: it takes two to tango. A Realtor in itself is specific role, as a mortage broker,as an appraiser. You have good ones, and you have the fly-by-night,get rich quick ones that are clueless, questionable ethics,etc… The fact is, the lure of quick money brought a lot of “unqualified” gold diggers into the real estate profession (as did the tech bubble brought a lot of unqualified people into the I.T./engineering space- IE your glorified HTML/script kiddies). Hopefully, with this crash, it pretty much flushes out the fly-by-night folks. But there are folks that have been in the RE industry for some time who are true to their business. It is their function to provide their service, as you are to pump whatever crap your company is attempting push on to others.

Also, may I remind you that, being able to “afford” a home is neither a entitlement NOR a requirement. No one FORCED people to buy homes at overly inflated prices. As is any other thing one buys, it’s buyer beware….That’s why folks never buy a software/hardware from a smooth talking salesman without doing a proof of concept first….

Personally, I’d like to see when/if you are ready to purchase a home, you try to take care of all details of a home purchase, and not get your axx handed to you. (Not saying in general, people can’t do it). But you just do strike me as someone, due your high-horse type of thinking, tends to oversimply things until you steep knee deep in cow dung, at which point your realize, “oh shit”.

[Coronita]

[quote=TheBreeze]
If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”
[/quote]

Breeze, with all due respect, it’s quite ironic, your high horse view about Realtors. If you are in sales, like I suspect you to be in, and which you seemed to confirm, when was the last time YOU haven’t stretched the truth( at the minimum) or flat out lied to make a sales…. and mislead a customer into some product/service that was overpromised and underdelivered.??????…Please….

As far as your notion of guilt by association: it takes two to tango. A Realtor in itself is specific role, as a mortage broker,as an appraiser. You have good ones, and you have the fly-by-night,get rich quick ones that are clueless, questionable ethics,etc… The fact is, the lure of quick money brought a lot of “unqualified” gold diggers into the real estate profession (as did the tech bubble brought a lot of unqualified people into the I.T./engineering space- IE your glorified HTML/script kiddies). Hopefully, with this crash, it pretty much flushes out the fly-by-night folks. But there are folks that have been in the RE industry for some time who are true to their business. It is their function to provide their service, as you are to pump whatever crap your company is attempting push on to others.

Also, may I remind you that, being able to “afford” a home is neither a entitlement NOR a requirement. No one FORCED people to buy homes at overly inflated prices. As is any other thing one buys, it’s buyer beware….That’s why folks never buy a software/hardware from a smooth talking salesman without doing a proof of concept first….

Personally, I’d like to see when/if you are ready to purchase a home, you try to take care of all details of a home purchase, and not get your axx handed to you. (Not saying in general, people can’t do it). But you just do strike me as someone, due your high-horse type of thinking, tends to oversimply things until you steep knee deep in cow dung, at which point your realize, “oh shit”.

[Coronita]

[quote=TheBreeze]
If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”
[/quote]

Breeze, with all due respect, it’s quite ironic, your high horse view about Realtors. If you are in sales, like I suspect you to be in, and which you seemed to confirm, when was the last time YOU haven’t stretched the truth( at the minimum) or flat out lied to make a sales…. and mislead a customer into some product/service that was overpromised and underdelivered.??????…Please….

As far as your notion of guilt by association: it takes two to tango. A Realtor in itself is specific role, as a mortage broker,as an appraiser. You have good ones, and you have the fly-by-night,get rich quick ones that are clueless, questionable ethics,etc… The fact is, the lure of quick money brought a lot of “unqualified” gold diggers into the real estate profession (as did the tech bubble brought a lot of unqualified people into the I.T./engineering space- IE your glorified HTML/script kiddies). Hopefully, with this crash, it pretty much flushes out the fly-by-night folks. But there are folks that have been in the RE industry for some time who are true to their business. It is their function to provide their service, as you are to pump whatever crap your company is attempting push on to others.

Also, may I remind you that, being able to “afford” a home is neither a entitlement NOR a requirement. No one FORCED people to buy homes at overly inflated prices. As is any other thing one buys, it’s buyer beware….That’s why folks never buy a software/hardware from a smooth talking salesman without doing a proof of concept first….

Personally, I’d like to see when/if you are ready to purchase a home, you try to take care of all details of a home purchase, and not get your axx handed to you. (Not saying in general, people can’t do it). But you just do strike me as someone, due your high-horse type of thinking, tends to oversimply things until you steep knee deep in cow dung, at which point your realize, “oh shit”.

[Coronita]

[quote=TheBreeze]
If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”
[/quote]

Breeze, with all due respect, it’s quite ironic, your high horse view about Realtors. If you are in sales, like I suspect you to be in, and which you seemed to confirm, when was the last time YOU haven’t stretched the truth( at the minimum) or flat out lied to make a sales…. and mislead a customer into some product/service that was overpromised and underdelivered.??????…Please….

As far as your notion of guilt by association: it takes two to tango. A Realtor in itself is specific role, as a mortage broker,as an appraiser. You have good ones, and you have the fly-by-night,get rich quick ones that are clueless, questionable ethics,etc… The fact is, the lure of quick money brought a lot of “unqualified” gold diggers into the real estate profession (as did the tech bubble brought a lot of unqualified people into the I.T./engineering space- IE your glorified HTML/script kiddies). Hopefully, with this crash, it pretty much flushes out the fly-by-night folks. But there are folks that have been in the RE industry for some time who are true to their business. It is their function to provide their service, as you are to pump whatever crap your company is attempting push on to others.

Also, may I remind you that, being able to “afford” a home is neither a entitlement NOR a requirement. No one FORCED people to buy homes at overly inflated prices. As is any other thing one buys, it’s buyer beware….That’s why folks never buy a software/hardware from a smooth talking salesman without doing a proof of concept first….

Personally, I’d like to see when/if you are ready to purchase a home, you try to take care of all details of a home purchase, and not get your axx handed to you. (Not saying in general, people can’t do it). But you just do strike me as someone, due your high-horse type of thinking, tends to oversimply things until you steep knee deep in cow dung, at which point your realize, “oh shit”.

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