Just wondering where all the “Bring it on people” are at

[Coronita]

[quote=Rustico]How is it that a few of you on this thread manage to be here posting extensively, all hours of the day and night and speak of activities outside of your own job that are incredibly demanding or fun and still be worth the 6 figures they pay you at your primary job?

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It’s quite simple actually…

1) when part of your team or otherwise is in the Bangalore office trying to integrate to the stuff you have, and you’re waiting for things like network, IT work to be done, or you’re on hold waiting for a deployment, or trying to listen to a status meeting in the wee hours…You’re sort of half awake. That might be with your full time job or with your side job (assuming you bought into the outsourcing thing)…. You can’t go to sleep, but it’s not the most time intensive/thought provoking thing you need to do So you try to kill time to stay awake while you’re kinda in a zombie state waiting for feedback on whether something you asked to get done was done or not, vice versa. At the same time, you’re not exactly in the most coherent frame of mind to do really any real meaningful work, like write an application.

Ironic, I can’t imagine what production support/operations folks do. But then again, they get paid to be on call all the time.

2) You have a stubborn kid that wakes you in the wee hours at night. And then you have an accute case of insomnia, and cant fall asleep afterwards.

3) You literally get use to it that you can’t sleep longer than 4-5 hrs at night. Because you end up feeling worse if you actually get 8+ hours.

4) You’re addicted to a blog. And despite BA (blogger anonymous), where’ you’re desperately trying not to crack open the browser), somehow in some twisted means, you sort of miss the folks you bash or bash you if you don’t check in every so often. Frankly, I’m trying to find a blog much more interesting, but by far this one takes the cake in the level if interesting information and diverse posts.

So the fact is Rustico, that at least in my industry, a lot of us have VPN access, and a lot of us use our own personal computers to actually do work when we get home. It’s sort of the territory when the company gives you the benefit of more flexible time and hours. The companies I work for are more interested in (1) can you get the work done on time (and work means not only stuff you were asked to do, but any thing you need to do to put the group ahead) and (2) can you deliver on what you said you can deliver.

Shit happens at work sometimes. You get stuck into an unproductive meeting, where it requires a semi-conscious participation, yet distracting enough you can’t get your work done. Someone breaks your build, and you need to wait for stuff to get fixed. Someone forgets to setup network access, and it takes 24 hrs to do a turnover. Etc etc etc. Ok, for some of this, this occurs all the time versus just sometime. So, a management team, says get your work done, get us ahead of the curve by doing more things that we didn’t ask you to do, we don’t care how you do it as long as it gets done by date X, and as long as you show up for meetings Y, and that pretty much is it.

Provided I dont (1) look at porn at work (2) participate in any illegal activities, this sort of flexibility benefits the employer..The amount of moonlighting at work in comparison to the amount of AH work is trival. If a company really has an issue with my random moonlighting on the web, then there wouldn’t be an expectation that “i need to do whatever it takes to deliver something” if the sh!t hits the fan that’s beyond my control too. It would be 8-6pm for me, and don’t call me after hours, and don’t give me a company phone in case you need to get a hold of me. Fact is, a lot of us do a lot of “undocumented hours” of work, which pails in comparison to actual non-work inside the company.

“Old school” employees punch in and punch out at preset times, regardless of the tasks gets done and/or demand overtime pay if they need to do otherwise….Large defense companies are an example. Typically, punch in and punch out, unless your a C level exec. In constrast, some of the other companies, overtime is expected if that’s what it takes to deliver (without overtime pay).

wow, it’s 7am…Time to go to work… Oh wait, I was already at work…Time to go to work again 🙂

[NotCranky]

I can see how you would have the energy and technological expertise to do that FLU. Tough non-schedule though. Yikes.

[NotCranky]

I can see how you would have the energy and technological expertise to do that FLU. Tough non-schedule though. Yikes.

[NotCranky]

I can see how you would have the energy and technological expertise to do that FLU. Tough non-schedule though. Yikes.

[NotCranky]

I can see how you would have the energy and technological expertise to do that FLU. Tough non-schedule though. Yikes.

[NotCranky]

I can see how you would have the energy and technological expertise to do that FLU. Tough non-schedule though. Yikes.

[patientlywaiting]

SD Realtor, I don’t have an answer for you.

But looking at our economic model, I see it being upside down.

The financial innovations that Greenspan was pushing only obfuscated the level of debt that we were taking on. We took on debt but never built the productive capacity needed to repay the debt because we relied on asset appreciation.

The problem is that asset appreciation is like a ponzi scheme. It relies on finding a sucker to buy the assets.

– Companies borrowed from investors and lenders to keep on running and promised future cash flows that didn’t materialize (dot com).

On a small level, I know a restaurant owner who started his business not with the intention to make money on serving meals, but with the intention of selling the business at a profit. Now, he’s stuck. That applies to all sorts of small and large businesses.

– Households borrowed and spent counting on asset appreciation that didn’t materialize. Salaries did not keep pace, so we created asset bubbles to tide us over. Now the bubble is bursting.

– Government did the same thing.

We need to get back to matching revenues to expenses.

– Over reliance on technology and the promises of technology. You bring up Pharma but I believe that it’s a bubble in itself.
We rely too much on drugs to save us from our ills. But the key is to eat well and lead a healthy life. Pills have side effects and cause other ills which then require more pills.

– The technology we developed and counted on such as cell phones, media streaming, mp3 players, etc… are useless. The hype fed onto itself but those are expenses that people will cut first when times are tough. Does a family really need a $200/month cell phone bill? Cable bill?

As a parent you know that good parenting is key to your kids development.

Government is our parents. And government failed to guide us in developing a sound economic policy.

Government policies allowed us to mis-allocate resources. Look at the enormous resources to develop and refine the SUV. The profits are gone and the resulting technology is useless, now the big 3 are about to go belly up.

[patientlywaiting]

SD Realtor, I don’t have an answer for you.

But looking at our economic model, I see it being upside down.

The financial innovations that Greenspan was pushing only obfuscated the level of debt that we were taking on. We took on debt but never built the productive capacity needed to repay the debt because we relied on asset appreciation.

The problem is that asset appreciation is like a ponzi scheme. It relies on finding a sucker to buy the assets.

– Companies borrowed from investors and lenders to keep on running and promised future cash flows that didn’t materialize (dot com).

On a small level, I know a restaurant owner who started his business not with the intention to make money on serving meals, but with the intention of selling the business at a profit. Now, he’s stuck. That applies to all sorts of small and large businesses.

– Households borrowed and spent counting on asset appreciation that didn’t materialize. Salaries did not keep pace, so we created asset bubbles to tide us over. Now the bubble is bursting.

– Government did the same thing.

We need to get back to matching revenues to expenses.

– Over reliance on technology and the promises of technology. You bring up Pharma but I believe that it’s a bubble in itself.
We rely too much on drugs to save us from our ills. But the key is to eat well and lead a healthy life. Pills have side effects and cause other ills which then require more pills.

– The technology we developed and counted on such as cell phones, media streaming, mp3 players, etc… are useless. The hype fed onto itself but those are expenses that people will cut first when times are tough. Does a family really need a $200/month cell phone bill? Cable bill?

As a parent you know that good parenting is key to your kids development.

Government is our parents. And government failed to guide us in developing a sound economic policy.

Government policies allowed us to mis-allocate resources. Look at the enormous resources to develop and refine the SUV. The profits are gone and the resulting technology is useless, now the big 3 are about to go belly up.

[patientlywaiting]

SD Realtor, I don’t have an answer for you.

But looking at our economic model, I see it being upside down.

The financial innovations that Greenspan was pushing only obfuscated the level of debt that we were taking on. We took on debt but never built the productive capacity needed to repay the debt because we relied on asset appreciation.

The problem is that asset appreciation is like a ponzi scheme. It relies on finding a sucker to buy the assets.

– Companies borrowed from investors and lenders to keep on running and promised future cash flows that didn’t materialize (dot com).

On a small level, I know a restaurant owner who started his business not with the intention to make money on serving meals, but with the intention of selling the business at a profit. Now, he’s stuck. That applies to all sorts of small and large businesses.

– Households borrowed and spent counting on asset appreciation that didn’t materialize. Salaries did not keep pace, so we created asset bubbles to tide us over. Now the bubble is bursting.

– Government did the same thing.

We need to get back to matching revenues to expenses.

– Over reliance on technology and the promises of technology. You bring up Pharma but I believe that it’s a bubble in itself.
We rely too much on drugs to save us from our ills. But the key is to eat well and lead a healthy life. Pills have side effects and cause other ills which then require more pills.

– The technology we developed and counted on such as cell phones, media streaming, mp3 players, etc… are useless. The hype fed onto itself but those are expenses that people will cut first when times are tough. Does a family really need a $200/month cell phone bill? Cable bill?

As a parent you know that good parenting is key to your kids development.

Government is our parents. And government failed to guide us in developing a sound economic policy.

Government policies allowed us to mis-allocate resources. Look at the enormous resources to develop and refine the SUV. The profits are gone and the resulting technology is useless, now the big 3 are about to go belly up.

[patientlywaiting]

SD Realtor, I don’t have an answer for you.

But looking at our economic model, I see it being upside down.

The financial innovations that Greenspan was pushing only obfuscated the level of debt that we were taking on. We took on debt but never built the productive capacity needed to repay the debt because we relied on asset appreciation.

The problem is that asset appreciation is like a ponzi scheme. It relies on finding a sucker to buy the assets.

– Companies borrowed from investors and lenders to keep on running and promised future cash flows that didn’t materialize (dot com).

On a small level, I know a restaurant owner who started his business not with the intention to make money on serving meals, but with the intention of selling the business at a profit. Now, he’s stuck. That applies to all sorts of small and large businesses.

– Households borrowed and spent counting on asset appreciation that didn’t materialize. Salaries did not keep pace, so we created asset bubbles to tide us over. Now the bubble is bursting.

– Government did the same thing.

We need to get back to matching revenues to expenses.

– Over reliance on technology and the promises of technology. You bring up Pharma but I believe that it’s a bubble in itself.
We rely too much on drugs to save us from our ills. But the key is to eat well and lead a healthy life. Pills have side effects and cause other ills which then require more pills.

– The technology we developed and counted on such as cell phones, media streaming, mp3 players, etc… are useless. The hype fed onto itself but those are expenses that people will cut first when times are tough. Does a family really need a $200/month cell phone bill? Cable bill?

As a parent you know that good parenting is key to your kids development.

Government is our parents. And government failed to guide us in developing a sound economic policy.

Government policies allowed us to mis-allocate resources. Look at the enormous resources to develop and refine the SUV. The profits are gone and the resulting technology is useless, now the big 3 are about to go belly up.

[patientlywaiting]

SD Realtor, I don’t have an answer for you.

But looking at our economic model, I see it being upside down.

The financial innovations that Greenspan was pushing only obfuscated the level of debt that we were taking on. We took on debt but never built the productive capacity needed to repay the debt because we relied on asset appreciation.

The problem is that asset appreciation is like a ponzi scheme. It relies on finding a sucker to buy the assets.

– Companies borrowed from investors and lenders to keep on running and promised future cash flows that didn’t materialize (dot com).

On a small level, I know a restaurant owner who started his business not with the intention to make money on serving meals, but with the intention of selling the business at a profit. Now, he’s stuck. That applies to all sorts of small and large businesses.

– Households borrowed and spent counting on asset appreciation that didn’t materialize. Salaries did not keep pace, so we created asset bubbles to tide us over. Now the bubble is bursting.

– Government did the same thing.

We need to get back to matching revenues to expenses.

– Over reliance on technology and the promises of technology. You bring up Pharma but I believe that it’s a bubble in itself.
We rely too much on drugs to save us from our ills. But the key is to eat well and lead a healthy life. Pills have side effects and cause other ills which then require more pills.

– The technology we developed and counted on such as cell phones, media streaming, mp3 players, etc… are useless. The hype fed onto itself but those are expenses that people will cut first when times are tough. Does a family really need a $200/month cell phone bill? Cable bill?

As a parent you know that good parenting is key to your kids development.

Government is our parents. And government failed to guide us in developing a sound economic policy.

Government policies allowed us to mis-allocate resources. Look at the enormous resources to develop and refine the SUV. The profits are gone and the resulting technology is useless, now the big 3 are about to go belly up.

[an]

[quote=TheBreeze]
If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”
[/quote]
If you ever dealt with SDR, you’ll know that he doesn’t push you to seal to seal the deal. On the contrary, he tells you what this site has been preaching for years. However, at the end of the day, it’s up to the buyers to decide if they want to buy or not. Some people buy a HOME for other reasons besides financial. Those people do need Realtors to help them. Helping people out with their needs is hardly a waste, but I think that concept is just too hard for you to understand. It’s much easier to resort to name calling and belittling people.

If you noticed, he did state first that he got his BSEE at UCSD and being in the field as an EE for 20 years. As an alumni BSEE at UCSD, he has my respect. Why don’t you post your education and experience before you attempt to belittle anyone else. You know what they say, the louder the bark, the smaller the bite. You sir, have the loudest bark I’ve seen. If you even paid attention, you’ll noticed that he’s a Libertarian. You’re the one who voted for the guy who voted for all these bailouts, so you shouldn’t be talking. Those who live in a glass house shouldn’t be throwing stones.

[an]

[quote=TheBreeze]
If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”
[/quote]
If you ever dealt with SDR, you’ll know that he doesn’t push you to seal to seal the deal. On the contrary, he tells you what this site has been preaching for years. However, at the end of the day, it’s up to the buyers to decide if they want to buy or not. Some people buy a HOME for other reasons besides financial. Those people do need Realtors to help them. Helping people out with their needs is hardly a waste, but I think that concept is just too hard for you to understand. It’s much easier to resort to name calling and belittling people.

If you noticed, he did state first that he got his BSEE at UCSD and being in the field as an EE for 20 years. As an alumni BSEE at UCSD, he has my respect. Why don’t you post your education and experience before you attempt to belittle anyone else. You know what they say, the louder the bark, the smaller the bite. You sir, have the loudest bark I’ve seen. If you even paid attention, you’ll noticed that he’s a Libertarian. You’re the one who voted for the guy who voted for all these bailouts, so you shouldn’t be talking. Those who live in a glass house shouldn’t be throwing stones.

[an]

[quote=TheBreeze]
If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”
[/quote]
If you ever dealt with SDR, you’ll know that he doesn’t push you to seal to seal the deal. On the contrary, he tells you what this site has been preaching for years. However, at the end of the day, it’s up to the buyers to decide if they want to buy or not. Some people buy a HOME for other reasons besides financial. Those people do need Realtors to help them. Helping people out with their needs is hardly a waste, but I think that concept is just too hard for you to understand. It’s much easier to resort to name calling and belittling people.

If you noticed, he did state first that he got his BSEE at UCSD and being in the field as an EE for 20 years. As an alumni BSEE at UCSD, he has my respect. Why don’t you post your education and experience before you attempt to belittle anyone else. You know what they say, the louder the bark, the smaller the bite. You sir, have the loudest bark I’ve seen. If you even paid attention, you’ll noticed that he’s a Libertarian. You’re the one who voted for the guy who voted for all these bailouts, so you shouldn’t be talking. Those who live in a glass house shouldn’t be throwing stones.

[an]

[quote=TheBreeze]
If you’ve put anyone in a house since 2002 it’s guaranteed that they are underwater now or soon will be. Pretty much everything you’ve done as a realtor for the last 6 years has been a waste — actually it’s been more than a waste because you’ve helped to bring American society down.

Anyway, I just don’t see how some misguided realtor has any room to criticize those who were saying “bring it on” when it is YOU who has likely done more than anyone else on this board to fuck everything up. If you supported Republitards in this election you are even more retarded than I imagined.

And do you think being a “successful” realtor in the biggest housing bubble in history somehow makes you an expert in “most any field?” Give me a break. You sound like the Internet supertraders back in 2000. Their bread (and yours) was buttered with lucky-brand margarine and they (nor you) never realized it and thought they were some kind of intellectual Gods (until they found out the hard way that they weren’t). You might want to consider stepping down off your high horse for a bit, take a look around, and realize that you are more responsible for the shitstorm we are about to enter than anyone who said “bring it on.”
[/quote]
If you ever dealt with SDR, you’ll know that he doesn’t push you to seal to seal the deal. On the contrary, he tells you what this site has been preaching for years. However, at the end of the day, it’s up to the buyers to decide if they want to buy or not. Some people buy a HOME for other reasons besides financial. Those people do need Realtors to help them. Helping people out with their needs is hardly a waste, but I think that concept is just too hard for you to understand. It’s much easier to resort to name calling and belittling people.

If you noticed, he did state first that he got his BSEE at UCSD and being in the field as an EE for 20 years. As an alumni BSEE at UCSD, he has my respect. Why don’t you post your education and experience before you attempt to belittle anyone else. You know what they say, the louder the bark, the smaller the bite. You sir, have the loudest bark I’ve seen. If you even paid attention, you’ll noticed that he’s a Libertarian. You’re the one who voted for the guy who voted for all these bailouts, so you shouldn’t be talking. Those who live in a glass house shouldn’t be throwing stones.

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