Healthcare is not a right!?

[Noob]

[quote=afx114]Among the list of those pesky “unalienable rights” listed in the Declaration of Independence is “life,” which of course is preserved via healthcare. Yes, I know, slippery slope and all that. Certainly flat screen TVs are necessary for life, so why doesn’t the government give me one of those?!

Lets us also not forget that the pre-amble to the Constitution expresses a desire to “promote the general welfare.” It is mentioned again in Article 1, Section 8 as a reason for Congress to impose taxes. Well, that and to declare war — the irony!

I’m no Constitutional scholar, but while “general welfare” and “life” are certainly broad categories, healthcare could easily fall under both. Whether or not that specifically makes healthcare a “right” I do not know. But my hunch is that the founding brosephs kept them so obviously open to interpretation for a reason.[/quote]

ummm. I don’t even know where to start on this. You need go take a constitutional law class. Your right to life comes to you naturally. Its not a right to extend your life through health care. Its that the governement can’t give you “life” which is why its a right. They can take it away for sure, just like they can take away your right to pursue happiness or liberty.

[NeetaT]

“Specifically, individuals with annual incomes more than $500,000 — as well as families earning more than $1 million — would face a 5.4 percent income tax surcharge.”

I can now commiserate with people who try to hide income. Let’s punish initiative. This is truly socialism in its most profound form.

[NeetaT]

“Specifically, individuals with annual incomes more than $500,000 — as well as families earning more than $1 million — would face a 5.4 percent income tax surcharge.”

I can now commiserate with people who try to hide income. Let’s punish initiative. This is truly socialism in its most profound form.

[NeetaT]

“Specifically, individuals with annual incomes more than $500,000 — as well as families earning more than $1 million — would face a 5.4 percent income tax surcharge.”

I can now commiserate with people who try to hide income. Let’s punish initiative. This is truly socialism in its most profound form.

[NeetaT]

“Specifically, individuals with annual incomes more than $500,000 — as well as families earning more than $1 million — would face a 5.4 percent income tax surcharge.”

I can now commiserate with people who try to hide income. Let’s punish initiative. This is truly socialism in its most profound form.

[NeetaT]

“Specifically, individuals with annual incomes more than $500,000 — as well as families earning more than $1 million — would face a 5.4 percent income tax surcharge.”

I can now commiserate with people who try to hide income. Let’s punish initiative. This is truly socialism in its most profound form.

[jficquette]

[quote=davelj][quote=jficquette]

The expense now is treating the cancer, heart disease, kidney failures etc in older people.

Eliminate the disease and you won’t have to worry about the cost.

John[/quote]

Won’t the “disease” of the future merely be “obsolescence”? Won’t we just keep spending bajillions of dollars on defeating this “disease”? I can see the ads of the future, “Donate today. Let’s end death together.” I just don’t see the cycle ending…[/quote]

It going to be a brave new world. Especially after we get Anti Gravity Technology out of the military and into the open.

New world with no disease and free energy.

John

PS Just wait until until 75 years from now when we start to upgrade the human IQ gene so that there will be no longer any differences between the Races. Through in AI and its continual spiral upward. Smarter humans, smarter machines.

[jficquette]

[quote=davelj][quote=jficquette]

The expense now is treating the cancer, heart disease, kidney failures etc in older people.

Eliminate the disease and you won’t have to worry about the cost.

John[/quote]

Won’t the “disease” of the future merely be “obsolescence”? Won’t we just keep spending bajillions of dollars on defeating this “disease”? I can see the ads of the future, “Donate today. Let’s end death together.” I just don’t see the cycle ending…[/quote]

It going to be a brave new world. Especially after we get Anti Gravity Technology out of the military and into the open.

New world with no disease and free energy.

John

PS Just wait until until 75 years from now when we start to upgrade the human IQ gene so that there will be no longer any differences between the Races. Through in AI and its continual spiral upward. Smarter humans, smarter machines.

[jficquette]

[quote=davelj][quote=jficquette]

The expense now is treating the cancer, heart disease, kidney failures etc in older people.

Eliminate the disease and you won’t have to worry about the cost.

John[/quote]

Won’t the “disease” of the future merely be “obsolescence”? Won’t we just keep spending bajillions of dollars on defeating this “disease”? I can see the ads of the future, “Donate today. Let’s end death together.” I just don’t see the cycle ending…[/quote]

It going to be a brave new world. Especially after we get Anti Gravity Technology out of the military and into the open.

New world with no disease and free energy.

John

PS Just wait until until 75 years from now when we start to upgrade the human IQ gene so that there will be no longer any differences between the Races. Through in AI and its continual spiral upward. Smarter humans, smarter machines.

[jficquette]

[quote=davelj][quote=jficquette]

The expense now is treating the cancer, heart disease, kidney failures etc in older people.

Eliminate the disease and you won’t have to worry about the cost.

John[/quote]

Won’t the “disease” of the future merely be “obsolescence”? Won’t we just keep spending bajillions of dollars on defeating this “disease”? I can see the ads of the future, “Donate today. Let’s end death together.” I just don’t see the cycle ending…[/quote]

It going to be a brave new world. Especially after we get Anti Gravity Technology out of the military and into the open.

New world with no disease and free energy.

John

PS Just wait until until 75 years from now when we start to upgrade the human IQ gene so that there will be no longer any differences between the Races. Through in AI and its continual spiral upward. Smarter humans, smarter machines.

[jficquette]

[quote=davelj][quote=jficquette]

The expense now is treating the cancer, heart disease, kidney failures etc in older people.

Eliminate the disease and you won’t have to worry about the cost.

John[/quote]

Won’t the “disease” of the future merely be “obsolescence”? Won’t we just keep spending bajillions of dollars on defeating this “disease”? I can see the ads of the future, “Donate today. Let’s end death together.” I just don’t see the cycle ending…[/quote]

It going to be a brave new world. Especially after we get Anti Gravity Technology out of the military and into the open.

New world with no disease and free energy.

John

PS Just wait until until 75 years from now when we start to upgrade the human IQ gene so that there will be no longer any differences between the Races. Through in AI and its continual spiral upward. Smarter humans, smarter machines.

[davelj]

[quote=jficquette]

It going to be a brave new world. Especially after we get Anti Gravity Technology out of the military and into the open.

New world with no disease and free energy.

John

PS Just wait until until 75 years from now when we start to upgrade the human IQ gene so that there will be no longer any differences between the Races. Through in AI and its continual spiral upward. Smarter humans, smarter machines.[/quote]

Looks like you’re talking about Singularity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

I don’t doubt we’re heading there, but at what speed and cost? Impossible to know…

[davelj]

[quote=jficquette]

It going to be a brave new world. Especially after we get Anti Gravity Technology out of the military and into the open.

New world with no disease and free energy.

John

PS Just wait until until 75 years from now when we start to upgrade the human IQ gene so that there will be no longer any differences between the Races. Through in AI and its continual spiral upward. Smarter humans, smarter machines.[/quote]

Looks like you’re talking about Singularity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

I don’t doubt we’re heading there, but at what speed and cost? Impossible to know…

[davelj]

[quote=jficquette]

It going to be a brave new world. Especially after we get Anti Gravity Technology out of the military and into the open.

New world with no disease and free energy.

John

PS Just wait until until 75 years from now when we start to upgrade the human IQ gene so that there will be no longer any differences between the Races. Through in AI and its continual spiral upward. Smarter humans, smarter machines.[/quote]

Looks like you’re talking about Singularity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

I don’t doubt we’re heading there, but at what speed and cost? Impossible to know…

[davelj]

[quote=jficquette]

It going to be a brave new world. Especially after we get Anti Gravity Technology out of the military and into the open.

New world with no disease and free energy.

John

PS Just wait until until 75 years from now when we start to upgrade the human IQ gene so that there will be no longer any differences between the Races. Through in AI and its continual spiral upward. Smarter humans, smarter machines.[/quote]

Looks like you’re talking about Singularity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

I don’t doubt we’re heading there, but at what speed and cost? Impossible to know…

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