Healthcare is not a right!?

[DWCAP]

While I appreciate Johns trust in my field, we as a race will never cure death. It wont happen. This is Star Trek science, I only wish it was true.

We need to confront our fear of death. It will happen. We will not be able to cure everything, and even if we can replace some parts of our whole, we will not be able to replace everything.

[DWCAP]

I would argue that we must be required to fill out living will’s along with our required insurance paperwork. It should be kept onhand with the paperwork.

So often it isnt the people ‘charging’ the system who elect for these costs, but rather their families. My Grandfather made it abundantly clear he did NOT want to be on a machine. But when ‘God came calling’ my aunt wasnt ready for it. She did everything she could to try to convince my family to do everything medically possible. Most medical costs are in the last few months of life, and it is stupid we leave all decisions until this point. I really think this alone would fix 25%+ of the funding gap for health care. And how can we argue that personal choices are apart of ‘death panels’ or ‘socialist rationing’?

[DWCAP]

I would argue that we must be required to fill out living will’s along with our required insurance paperwork. It should be kept onhand with the paperwork.

So often it isnt the people ‘charging’ the system who elect for these costs, but rather their families. My Grandfather made it abundantly clear he did NOT want to be on a machine. But when ‘God came calling’ my aunt wasnt ready for it. She did everything she could to try to convince my family to do everything medically possible. Most medical costs are in the last few months of life, and it is stupid we leave all decisions until this point. I really think this alone would fix 25%+ of the funding gap for health care. And how can we argue that personal choices are apart of ‘death panels’ or ‘socialist rationing’?

[DWCAP]

I would argue that we must be required to fill out living will’s along with our required insurance paperwork. It should be kept onhand with the paperwork.

So often it isnt the people ‘charging’ the system who elect for these costs, but rather their families. My Grandfather made it abundantly clear he did NOT want to be on a machine. But when ‘God came calling’ my aunt wasnt ready for it. She did everything she could to try to convince my family to do everything medically possible. Most medical costs are in the last few months of life, and it is stupid we leave all decisions until this point. I really think this alone would fix 25%+ of the funding gap for health care. And how can we argue that personal choices are apart of ‘death panels’ or ‘socialist rationing’?

[DWCAP]

I would argue that we must be required to fill out living will’s along with our required insurance paperwork. It should be kept onhand with the paperwork.

So often it isnt the people ‘charging’ the system who elect for these costs, but rather their families. My Grandfather made it abundantly clear he did NOT want to be on a machine. But when ‘God came calling’ my aunt wasnt ready for it. She did everything she could to try to convince my family to do everything medically possible. Most medical costs are in the last few months of life, and it is stupid we leave all decisions until this point. I really think this alone would fix 25%+ of the funding gap for health care. And how can we argue that personal choices are apart of ‘death panels’ or ‘socialist rationing’?

[DWCAP]

I would argue that we must be required to fill out living will’s along with our required insurance paperwork. It should be kept onhand with the paperwork.

So often it isnt the people ‘charging’ the system who elect for these costs, but rather their families. My Grandfather made it abundantly clear he did NOT want to be on a machine. But when ‘God came calling’ my aunt wasnt ready for it. She did everything she could to try to convince my family to do everything medically possible. Most medical costs are in the last few months of life, and it is stupid we leave all decisions until this point. I really think this alone would fix 25%+ of the funding gap for health care. And how can we argue that personal choices are apart of ‘death panels’ or ‘socialist rationing’?

[Carl Veritas]

NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?

[Carl Veritas]

NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?

[Carl Veritas]

NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?

[Carl Veritas]

NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?

[Carl Veritas]

NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?

[Arraya]

[quote=Carl Veritas]NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?[/quote]

Ahhh… The good old days, when you could stick 9 year olds in coal mines and get away with shooting factory workers for asking for living wages.

Nothing like those days.

Public hospitals comprise about 20% of total hospitals, it’s slightly higher than the number for-profit hospitals. Non-profit make up the biggest percentage which about 65% of total hospitals, which is a much different entity than public.

I believe most public are inner city. I’m not too sure many of the poor downtrodden hospital chain owners are to sad about losing that market share to the big bad government.

And no, they did not take over the industry, the provided more hospitals.

Hospitals were probably a luxury for a very small percentage of the population in 1900.

[Arraya]

[quote=Carl Veritas]NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?[/quote]

Ahhh… The good old days, when you could stick 9 year olds in coal mines and get away with shooting factory workers for asking for living wages.

Nothing like those days.

Public hospitals comprise about 20% of total hospitals, it’s slightly higher than the number for-profit hospitals. Non-profit make up the biggest percentage which about 65% of total hospitals, which is a much different entity than public.

I believe most public are inner city. I’m not too sure many of the poor downtrodden hospital chain owners are to sad about losing that market share to the big bad government.

And no, they did not take over the industry, the provided more hospitals.

Hospitals were probably a luxury for a very small percentage of the population in 1900.

[Arraya]

[quote=Carl Veritas]NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?[/quote]

Ahhh… The good old days, when you could stick 9 year olds in coal mines and get away with shooting factory workers for asking for living wages.

Nothing like those days.

Public hospitals comprise about 20% of total hospitals, it’s slightly higher than the number for-profit hospitals. Non-profit make up the biggest percentage which about 65% of total hospitals, which is a much different entity than public.

I believe most public are inner city. I’m not too sure many of the poor downtrodden hospital chain owners are to sad about losing that market share to the big bad government.

And no, they did not take over the industry, the provided more hospitals.

Hospitals were probably a luxury for a very small percentage of the population in 1900.

[Arraya]

[quote=Carl Veritas]NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?[/quote]

Ahhh… The good old days, when you could stick 9 year olds in coal mines and get away with shooting factory workers for asking for living wages.

Nothing like those days.

Public hospitals comprise about 20% of total hospitals, it’s slightly higher than the number for-profit hospitals. Non-profit make up the biggest percentage which about 65% of total hospitals, which is a much different entity than public.

I believe most public are inner city. I’m not too sure many of the poor downtrodden hospital chain owners are to sad about losing that market share to the big bad government.

And no, they did not take over the industry, the provided more hospitals.

Hospitals were probably a luxury for a very small percentage of the population in 1900.

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