Healthcare is not a right!?

[mike92104]

I wonder if we should go the opposite route. Basic health care is the individuals responsibility. No insurance, just straight out of pocket. That way everybody has to consider the cost of everything. If you should get some awful disease that couldn’t be directly linked to poor lifestyle choices, and couldn’t afford the treatment, the the govt plan could cover you.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=mike92104]I wonder if we should go the opposite route. Basic health care is the individuals responsibility. No insurance, just straight out of pocket. That way everybody has to consider the cost of everything. If you should get some awful disease that couldn’t be directly linked to poor lifestyle choices, and couldn’t afford the treatment, the the govt plan could cover you.[/quote]

Everything can be thought of as a poor lifestyle choice, especially living basically anyplace in SoCal where you have frequent unhealthy air, unhealthy commutes, and too much stress.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=mike92104]I wonder if we should go the opposite route. Basic health care is the individuals responsibility. No insurance, just straight out of pocket. That way everybody has to consider the cost of everything. If you should get some awful disease that couldn’t be directly linked to poor lifestyle choices, and couldn’t afford the treatment, the the govt plan could cover you.[/quote]

Everything can be thought of as a poor lifestyle choice, especially living basically anyplace in SoCal where you have frequent unhealthy air, unhealthy commutes, and too much stress.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=mike92104]I wonder if we should go the opposite route. Basic health care is the individuals responsibility. No insurance, just straight out of pocket. That way everybody has to consider the cost of everything. If you should get some awful disease that couldn’t be directly linked to poor lifestyle choices, and couldn’t afford the treatment, the the govt plan could cover you.[/quote]

Everything can be thought of as a poor lifestyle choice, especially living basically anyplace in SoCal where you have frequent unhealthy air, unhealthy commutes, and too much stress.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=mike92104]I wonder if we should go the opposite route. Basic health care is the individuals responsibility. No insurance, just straight out of pocket. That way everybody has to consider the cost of everything. If you should get some awful disease that couldn’t be directly linked to poor lifestyle choices, and couldn’t afford the treatment, the the govt plan could cover you.[/quote]

Everything can be thought of as a poor lifestyle choice, especially living basically anyplace in SoCal where you have frequent unhealthy air, unhealthy commutes, and too much stress.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=mike92104]I wonder if we should go the opposite route. Basic health care is the individuals responsibility. No insurance, just straight out of pocket. That way everybody has to consider the cost of everything. If you should get some awful disease that couldn’t be directly linked to poor lifestyle choices, and couldn’t afford the treatment, the the govt plan could cover you.[/quote]

Everything can be thought of as a poor lifestyle choice, especially living basically anyplace in SoCal where you have frequent unhealthy air, unhealthy commutes, and too much stress.

[sdduuuude]

The problem is this – when you say that something is a “right” when that right requires someone else to adminster it, you are, by logic, depriving those who must administer it of their freedom.

You must, logically, force someone to provide healthcare – a prospect I believe is unethical.

I don’t believe we are born with any “positive” rights – or rights that require depriving someone else of their freedom.

[sdduuuude]

The problem is this – when you say that something is a “right” when that right requires someone else to adminster it, you are, by logic, depriving those who must administer it of their freedom.

You must, logically, force someone to provide healthcare – a prospect I believe is unethical.

I don’t believe we are born with any “positive” rights – or rights that require depriving someone else of their freedom.

[sdduuuude]

The problem is this – when you say that something is a “right” when that right requires someone else to adminster it, you are, by logic, depriving those who must administer it of their freedom.

You must, logically, force someone to provide healthcare – a prospect I believe is unethical.

I don’t believe we are born with any “positive” rights – or rights that require depriving someone else of their freedom.

[sdduuuude]

The problem is this – when you say that something is a “right” when that right requires someone else to adminster it, you are, by logic, depriving those who must administer it of their freedom.

You must, logically, force someone to provide healthcare – a prospect I believe is unethical.

I don’t believe we are born with any “positive” rights – or rights that require depriving someone else of their freedom.

[sdduuuude]

The problem is this – when you say that something is a “right” when that right requires someone else to adminster it, you are, by logic, depriving those who must administer it of their freedom.

You must, logically, force someone to provide healthcare – a prospect I believe is unethical.

I don’t believe we are born with any “positive” rights – or rights that require depriving someone else of their freedom.

[SK in CV]

[quote=NeetaT] Those who claim they can’t afford healthcare costs are the same people who can somehow find a way to buy a new car or go on a lavish vacation. All I can say is please “Kill the Bill” so that I am not fleeced for more taxes. I will gladly pay for my own healthcare thank you.[/quote]

Dude, what world are you living in? 45,000 people die every year in this country because they don’t have medical insurance. 10’s of thousand go bankrupt. Nobody is trading a cruise for their life.

[SK in CV]

[quote=NeetaT] Those who claim they can’t afford healthcare costs are the same people who can somehow find a way to buy a new car or go on a lavish vacation. All I can say is please “Kill the Bill” so that I am not fleeced for more taxes. I will gladly pay for my own healthcare thank you.[/quote]

Dude, what world are you living in? 45,000 people die every year in this country because they don’t have medical insurance. 10’s of thousand go bankrupt. Nobody is trading a cruise for their life.

[SK in CV]

[quote=NeetaT] Those who claim they can’t afford healthcare costs are the same people who can somehow find a way to buy a new car or go on a lavish vacation. All I can say is please “Kill the Bill” so that I am not fleeced for more taxes. I will gladly pay for my own healthcare thank you.[/quote]

Dude, what world are you living in? 45,000 people die every year in this country because they don’t have medical insurance. 10’s of thousand go bankrupt. Nobody is trading a cruise for their life.

[SK in CV]

[quote=NeetaT] Those who claim they can’t afford healthcare costs are the same people who can somehow find a way to buy a new car or go on a lavish vacation. All I can say is please “Kill the Bill” so that I am not fleeced for more taxes. I will gladly pay for my own healthcare thank you.[/quote]

Dude, what world are you living in? 45,000 people die every year in this country because they don’t have medical insurance. 10’s of thousand go bankrupt. Nobody is trading a cruise for their life.

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