Healthcare is not a right!?

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[quote=Carl Veritas]NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?[/quote]

Ahhh… The good old days, when you could stick 9 year olds in coal mines and get away with shooting factory workers for asking for living wages.

Nothing like those days.

Public hospitals comprise about 20% of total hospitals, it’s slightly higher than the number for-profit hospitals. Non-profit make up the biggest percentage which about 65% of total hospitals, which is a much different entity than public.

I believe most public are inner city. I’m not too sure many of the poor downtrodden hospital chain owners are to sad about losing that market share to the big bad government.

And no, they did not take over the industry, the provided more hospitals.

Hospitals were probably a luxury for a very small percentage of the population in 1900.

[jficquette]

[quote=DWCAP]While I appreciate Johns trust in my field, we as a race will never cure death. It wont happen. This is Star Trek science, I only wish it was true.

We need to confront our fear of death. It will happen. We will not be able to cure everything, and even if we can replace some parts of our whole, we will not be able to replace everything.[/quote]

Well, I think that Star Trek will get here sooner or later. No reason why we can change the Human DNA to be disease free. Heck, we have disease resistant Corn. Why not Humans (g)?

John

[jficquette]

[quote=DWCAP]While I appreciate Johns trust in my field, we as a race will never cure death. It wont happen. This is Star Trek science, I only wish it was true.

We need to confront our fear of death. It will happen. We will not be able to cure everything, and even if we can replace some parts of our whole, we will not be able to replace everything.[/quote]

Well, I think that Star Trek will get here sooner or later. No reason why we can change the Human DNA to be disease free. Heck, we have disease resistant Corn. Why not Humans (g)?

John

[jficquette]

[quote=DWCAP]While I appreciate Johns trust in my field, we as a race will never cure death. It wont happen. This is Star Trek science, I only wish it was true.

We need to confront our fear of death. It will happen. We will not be able to cure everything, and even if we can replace some parts of our whole, we will not be able to replace everything.[/quote]

Well, I think that Star Trek will get here sooner or later. No reason why we can change the Human DNA to be disease free. Heck, we have disease resistant Corn. Why not Humans (g)?

John

[jficquette]

[quote=DWCAP]While I appreciate Johns trust in my field, we as a race will never cure death. It wont happen. This is Star Trek science, I only wish it was true.

We need to confront our fear of death. It will happen. We will not be able to cure everything, and even if we can replace some parts of our whole, we will not be able to replace everything.[/quote]

Well, I think that Star Trek will get here sooner or later. No reason why we can change the Human DNA to be disease free. Heck, we have disease resistant Corn. Why not Humans (g)?

John

[jficquette]

[quote=DWCAP]While I appreciate Johns trust in my field, we as a race will never cure death. It wont happen. This is Star Trek science, I only wish it was true.

We need to confront our fear of death. It will happen. We will not be able to cure everything, and even if we can replace some parts of our whole, we will not be able to replace everything.[/quote]

Well, I think that Star Trek will get here sooner or later. No reason why we can change the Human DNA to be disease free. Heck, we have disease resistant Corn. Why not Humans (g)?

John

[SK in CV]

[quote=Carl Veritas]NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?[/quote]

I’m not sure where you got your numbers, but according to the American Hospital Association 2008 survey, local, state and federally owned hospitals made just over 20% of all hospitals.

http://www.aha.org/aha/resource-center/Statistics-and-Studies/fast-facts.html

[SK in CV]

[quote=Carl Veritas]NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?[/quote]

I’m not sure where you got your numbers, but according to the American Hospital Association 2008 survey, local, state and federally owned hospitals made just over 20% of all hospitals.

http://www.aha.org/aha/resource-center/Statistics-and-Studies/fast-facts.html

[SK in CV]

[quote=Carl Veritas]NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?[/quote]

I’m not sure where you got your numbers, but according to the American Hospital Association 2008 survey, local, state and federally owned hospitals made just over 20% of all hospitals.

http://www.aha.org/aha/resource-center/Statistics-and-Studies/fast-facts.html

[SK in CV]

[quote=Carl Veritas]NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?[/quote]

I’m not sure where you got your numbers, but according to the American Hospital Association 2008 survey, local, state and federally owned hospitals made just over 20% of all hospitals.

http://www.aha.org/aha/resource-center/Statistics-and-Studies/fast-facts.html

[SK in CV]

[quote=Carl Veritas]NeetaT,

At the beginning of the 20th century, 90 percent of hospitals were private, for-profit enterprises.
State and local governments began taking over the hospital industry that by early 1990s only 10 percent are.

If not socialism, what should we call this,
the free market?[/quote]

I’m not sure where you got your numbers, but according to the American Hospital Association 2008 survey, local, state and federally owned hospitals made just over 20% of all hospitals.

http://www.aha.org/aha/resource-center/Statistics-and-Studies/fast-facts.html

[Carl Veritas]

SK in CV,

The American Hospital Association?

Is this the entity that gives existing hospitals veto power wether another hospital is to be built where it operates?

The private/public hospital figures are from Milton Friedman’s “Input and Output in Medical care.
Quoted from an article by Thomas DiLorenzo, Economics Professor Loyola University Maryland

I’d love to hear your comments on his take about our nations health care scene

http://mises.org/story/3793

[Carl Veritas]

SK in CV,

The American Hospital Association?

Is this the entity that gives existing hospitals veto power wether another hospital is to be built where it operates?

The private/public hospital figures are from Milton Friedman’s “Input and Output in Medical care.
Quoted from an article by Thomas DiLorenzo, Economics Professor Loyola University Maryland

I’d love to hear your comments on his take about our nations health care scene

http://mises.org/story/3793

[Carl Veritas]

SK in CV,

The American Hospital Association?

Is this the entity that gives existing hospitals veto power wether another hospital is to be built where it operates?

The private/public hospital figures are from Milton Friedman’s “Input and Output in Medical care.
Quoted from an article by Thomas DiLorenzo, Economics Professor Loyola University Maryland

I’d love to hear your comments on his take about our nations health care scene

http://mises.org/story/3793

[Carl Veritas]

SK in CV,

The American Hospital Association?

Is this the entity that gives existing hospitals veto power wether another hospital is to be built where it operates?

The private/public hospital figures are from Milton Friedman’s “Input and Output in Medical care.
Quoted from an article by Thomas DiLorenzo, Economics Professor Loyola University Maryland

I’d love to hear your comments on his take about our nations health care scene

http://mises.org/story/3793

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