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December 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM #497614December 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM #496753
jficquette
Participant[quote=Arraya][quote=jficquette]
GW is a great man and anyone open minded person should now see the difference between a real President and Joke like Obama.GW got blamed for stuff that was not his fault. All you have to do now is see Reid and Peloski to know what he was fighting all those years.
How was GW an idiot by the way??
John[/quote]
John, john, john
GW got everything his little heart desired. Or rather what Cheney’s black heart desired.
I agree, GW was not an idiot. He just played on on TV[/quote]
He never played it on TV either and Cheney is a great American.
John
PS Don’t make be break out my Pimp Cane on this subject.
December 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM #496900Participant[quote=Arraya][quote=jficquette]
GW is a great man and anyone open minded person should now see the difference between a real President and Joke like Obama.GW got blamed for stuff that was not his fault. All you have to do now is see Reid and Peloski to know what he was fighting all those years.
How was GW an idiot by the way??
John[/quote]
John, john, john
GW got everything his little heart desired. Or rather what Cheney’s black heart desired.
I agree, GW was not an idiot. He just played on on TV[/quote]
He never played it on TV either and Cheney is a great American.
John
PS Don’t make be break out my Pimp Cane on this subject.
December 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM #497283Participant[quote=Arraya][quote=jficquette]
GW is a great man and anyone open minded person should now see the difference between a real President and Joke like Obama.GW got blamed for stuff that was not his fault. All you have to do now is see Reid and Peloski to know what he was fighting all those years.
How was GW an idiot by the way??
John[/quote]
John, john, john
GW got everything his little heart desired. Or rather what Cheney’s black heart desired.
I agree, GW was not an idiot. He just played on on TV[/quote]
He never played it on TV either and Cheney is a great American.
John
PS Don’t make be break out my Pimp Cane on this subject.
December 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM #497373Participant[quote=Arraya][quote=jficquette]
GW is a great man and anyone open minded person should now see the difference between a real President and Joke like Obama.GW got blamed for stuff that was not his fault. All you have to do now is see Reid and Peloski to know what he was fighting all those years.
How was GW an idiot by the way??
John[/quote]
John, john, john
GW got everything his little heart desired. Or rather what Cheney’s black heart desired.
I agree, GW was not an idiot. He just played on on TV[/quote]
He never played it on TV either and Cheney is a great American.
John
PS Don’t make be break out my Pimp Cane on this subject.
December 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM #497619Participant[quote=Arraya][quote=jficquette]
GW is a great man and anyone open minded person should now see the difference between a real President and Joke like Obama.GW got blamed for stuff that was not his fault. All you have to do now is see Reid and Peloski to know what he was fighting all those years.
How was GW an idiot by the way??
John[/quote]
John, john, john
GW got everything his little heart desired. Or rather what Cheney’s black heart desired.
I agree, GW was not an idiot. He just played on on TV[/quote]
He never played it on TV either and Cheney is a great American.
John
PS Don’t make be break out my Pimp Cane on this subject.
December 23, 2009 at 11:21 AM #496757davelj
Participant[quote=jficquette]
The expense now is treating the cancer, heart disease, kidney failures etc in older people.
Eliminate the disease and you won’t have to worry about the cost.
John[/quote]
Won’t the “disease” of the future merely be “obsolescence”? Won’t we just keep spending bajillions of dollars on defeating this “disease”? I can see the ads of the future, “Donate today. Let’s end death together.” I just don’t see the cycle ending…
December 23, 2009 at 11:21 AM #496905Participant[quote=jficquette]
The expense now is treating the cancer, heart disease, kidney failures etc in older people.
Eliminate the disease and you won’t have to worry about the cost.
John[/quote]
Won’t the “disease” of the future merely be “obsolescence”? Won’t we just keep spending bajillions of dollars on defeating this “disease”? I can see the ads of the future, “Donate today. Let’s end death together.” I just don’t see the cycle ending…
December 23, 2009 at 11:21 AM #497288Participant[quote=jficquette]
The expense now is treating the cancer, heart disease, kidney failures etc in older people.
Eliminate the disease and you won’t have to worry about the cost.
John[/quote]
Won’t the “disease” of the future merely be “obsolescence”? Won’t we just keep spending bajillions of dollars on defeating this “disease”? I can see the ads of the future, “Donate today. Let’s end death together.” I just don’t see the cycle ending…
December 23, 2009 at 11:21 AM #497378Participant[quote=jficquette]
The expense now is treating the cancer, heart disease, kidney failures etc in older people.
Eliminate the disease and you won’t have to worry about the cost.
John[/quote]
Won’t the “disease” of the future merely be “obsolescence”? Won’t we just keep spending bajillions of dollars on defeating this “disease”? I can see the ads of the future, “Donate today. Let’s end death together.” I just don’t see the cycle ending…
December 23, 2009 at 11:21 AM #497624Participant[quote=jficquette]
The expense now is treating the cancer, heart disease, kidney failures etc in older people.
Eliminate the disease and you won’t have to worry about the cost.
John[/quote]
Won’t the “disease” of the future merely be “obsolescence”? Won’t we just keep spending bajillions of dollars on defeating this “disease”? I can see the ads of the future, “Donate today. Let’s end death together.” I just don’t see the cycle ending…
December 23, 2009 at 11:25 AM #496762Noob
Participant[quote=afx114]Among the list of those pesky “unalienable rights” listed in the Declaration of Independence is “life,” which of course is preserved via healthcare. Yes, I know, slippery slope and all that. Certainly flat screen TVs are necessary for life, so why doesn’t the government give me one of those?!
Lets us also not forget that the pre-amble to the Constitution expresses a desire to “promote the general welfare.” It is mentioned again in Article 1, Section 8 as a reason for Congress to impose taxes. Well, that and to declare war — the irony!
I’m no Constitutional scholar, but while “general welfare” and “life” are certainly broad categories, healthcare could easily fall under both. Whether or not that specifically makes healthcare a “right” I do not know. But my hunch is that the founding brosephs kept them so obviously open to interpretation for a reason.[/quote]
ummm. I don’t even know where to start on this. You need go take a constitutional law class. Your right to life comes to you naturally. Its not a right to extend your life through health care. Its that the governement can’t give you “life” which is why its a right. They can take it away for sure, just like they can take away your right to pursue happiness or liberty.
December 23, 2009 at 11:25 AM #496909Participant[quote=afx114]Among the list of those pesky “unalienable rights” listed in the Declaration of Independence is “life,” which of course is preserved via healthcare. Yes, I know, slippery slope and all that. Certainly flat screen TVs are necessary for life, so why doesn’t the government give me one of those?!
Lets us also not forget that the pre-amble to the Constitution expresses a desire to “promote the general welfare.” It is mentioned again in Article 1, Section 8 as a reason for Congress to impose taxes. Well, that and to declare war — the irony!
I’m no Constitutional scholar, but while “general welfare” and “life” are certainly broad categories, healthcare could easily fall under both. Whether or not that specifically makes healthcare a “right” I do not know. But my hunch is that the founding brosephs kept them so obviously open to interpretation for a reason.[/quote]
ummm. I don’t even know where to start on this. You need go take a constitutional law class. Your right to life comes to you naturally. Its not a right to extend your life through health care. Its that the governement can’t give you “life” which is why its a right. They can take it away for sure, just like they can take away your right to pursue happiness or liberty.
December 23, 2009 at 11:25 AM #497293Participant[quote=afx114]Among the list of those pesky “unalienable rights” listed in the Declaration of Independence is “life,” which of course is preserved via healthcare. Yes, I know, slippery slope and all that. Certainly flat screen TVs are necessary for life, so why doesn’t the government give me one of those?!
Lets us also not forget that the pre-amble to the Constitution expresses a desire to “promote the general welfare.” It is mentioned again in Article 1, Section 8 as a reason for Congress to impose taxes. Well, that and to declare war — the irony!
I’m no Constitutional scholar, but while “general welfare” and “life” are certainly broad categories, healthcare could easily fall under both. Whether or not that specifically makes healthcare a “right” I do not know. But my hunch is that the founding brosephs kept them so obviously open to interpretation for a reason.[/quote]
ummm. I don’t even know where to start on this. You need go take a constitutional law class. Your right to life comes to you naturally. Its not a right to extend your life through health care. Its that the governement can’t give you “life” which is why its a right. They can take it away for sure, just like they can take away your right to pursue happiness or liberty.
December 23, 2009 at 11:25 AM #497383Participant[quote=afx114]Among the list of those pesky “unalienable rights” listed in the Declaration of Independence is “life,” which of course is preserved via healthcare. Yes, I know, slippery slope and all that. Certainly flat screen TVs are necessary for life, so why doesn’t the government give me one of those?!
Lets us also not forget that the pre-amble to the Constitution expresses a desire to “promote the general welfare.” It is mentioned again in Article 1, Section 8 as a reason for Congress to impose taxes. Well, that and to declare war — the irony!
I’m no Constitutional scholar, but while “general welfare” and “life” are certainly broad categories, healthcare could easily fall under both. Whether or not that specifically makes healthcare a “right” I do not know. But my hunch is that the founding brosephs kept them so obviously open to interpretation for a reason.[/quote]
ummm. I don’t even know where to start on this. You need go take a constitutional law class. Your right to life comes to you naturally. Its not a right to extend your life through health care. Its that the governement can’t give you “life” which is why its a right. They can take it away for sure, just like they can take away your right to pursue happiness or liberty.
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