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The point about medical bills is well taken. As someone who’s had 3 family members face 5 different cancers, I know how medical bills can come out of nowhere and impact finances.

The point that scaredy made about arbitrary scores being everywhere in our lives is also valid. SAT scores and GPAs to get into college. Heck my company does background checks and checks GPAs and verifies degrees issued – and has for more than a decade… so screwing up your first year of college CAN follow you for a long time. It’s as arbitrary and “in the past” as credit scores demolished by past medical bills.

I’m not defending the system. I’m not in the job market (at the moment) so I hope none of these arbitrary numbers work against me. But circumstances could change and I could be a victim of bad credit score, less than 4.0 gpa in college, etc.

As for the earlier responses to me… All I said was that I am frugal. I also mentioned that I hope (and save) towards a goal of having a good retirement. Somehow that made me beholden to treasure and a slave to my credit score. That’s a pretty big leap since neither are true. I also have goals of raising my sons to be decent humans, being a good wife, a good employee, being a good neighbor. I don’t care if you believe me.

[UCGal]

The point about medical bills is well taken. As someone who’s had 3 family members face 5 different cancers, I know how medical bills can come out of nowhere and impact finances.

The point that scaredy made about arbitrary scores being everywhere in our lives is also valid. SAT scores and GPAs to get into college. Heck my company does background checks and checks GPAs and verifies degrees issued – and has for more than a decade… so screwing up your first year of college CAN follow you for a long time. It’s as arbitrary and “in the past” as credit scores demolished by past medical bills.

I’m not defending the system. I’m not in the job market (at the moment) so I hope none of these arbitrary numbers work against me. But circumstances could change and I could be a victim of bad credit score, less than 4.0 gpa in college, etc.

As for the earlier responses to me… All I said was that I am frugal. I also mentioned that I hope (and save) towards a goal of having a good retirement. Somehow that made me beholden to treasure and a slave to my credit score. That’s a pretty big leap since neither are true. I also have goals of raising my sons to be decent humans, being a good wife, a good employee, being a good neighbor. I don’t care if you believe me.

[UCGal]

The point about medical bills is well taken. As someone who’s had 3 family members face 5 different cancers, I know how medical bills can come out of nowhere and impact finances.

The point that scaredy made about arbitrary scores being everywhere in our lives is also valid. SAT scores and GPAs to get into college. Heck my company does background checks and checks GPAs and verifies degrees issued – and has for more than a decade… so screwing up your first year of college CAN follow you for a long time. It’s as arbitrary and “in the past” as credit scores demolished by past medical bills.

I’m not defending the system. I’m not in the job market (at the moment) so I hope none of these arbitrary numbers work against me. But circumstances could change and I could be a victim of bad credit score, less than 4.0 gpa in college, etc.

As for the earlier responses to me… All I said was that I am frugal. I also mentioned that I hope (and save) towards a goal of having a good retirement. Somehow that made me beholden to treasure and a slave to my credit score. That’s a pretty big leap since neither are true. I also have goals of raising my sons to be decent humans, being a good wife, a good employee, being a good neighbor. I don’t care if you believe me.

[UCGal]

My dad had more than 30 years with a local defense contractor when he retired… he was one of the last engineers that had that “job for life” thing going… that’s so gone. He retired about the time the defense industry imploded (mid-late 80’s).

My mom had the job for life thing too – worked for the county… first for a politician (Hedgecock when he was supervisor) then for a non-elective department.

My dad didn’t face the stress of losing his job till the end. My mom never faced that.

I followed my dad into engineering. (Maybe I should have done what teaboy suggests – and gotten my greedy claws into an enabler, lol). I got a bsee from sdsu… much cheaper than Harvey Mudd. I’ve been lucky… I’ve only been laid off once (when defense jobs imploded here in San Diego in 1990) But I would NOT encourage my sons to go into engineering unless they show a passion for it… QC may be pulling back on the offshoring – but my employer is definitely not. They’ve built several new buildings in Bangalore and are building more in China. The writing is on the wall.

I like the idea of vocational schools. A good plumber, mechanic, electrician, etc will never starve.

[UCGal]

My dad had more than 30 years with a local defense contractor when he retired… he was one of the last engineers that had that “job for life” thing going… that’s so gone. He retired about the time the defense industry imploded (mid-late 80’s).

My mom had the job for life thing too – worked for the county… first for a politician (Hedgecock when he was supervisor) then for a non-elective department.

My dad didn’t face the stress of losing his job till the end. My mom never faced that.

I followed my dad into engineering. (Maybe I should have done what teaboy suggests – and gotten my greedy claws into an enabler, lol). I got a bsee from sdsu… much cheaper than Harvey Mudd. I’ve been lucky… I’ve only been laid off once (when defense jobs imploded here in San Diego in 1990) But I would NOT encourage my sons to go into engineering unless they show a passion for it… QC may be pulling back on the offshoring – but my employer is definitely not. They’ve built several new buildings in Bangalore and are building more in China. The writing is on the wall.

I like the idea of vocational schools. A good plumber, mechanic, electrician, etc will never starve.

[UCGal]

My dad had more than 30 years with a local defense contractor when he retired… he was one of the last engineers that had that “job for life” thing going… that’s so gone. He retired about the time the defense industry imploded (mid-late 80’s).

My mom had the job for life thing too – worked for the county… first for a politician (Hedgecock when he was supervisor) then for a non-elective department.

My dad didn’t face the stress of losing his job till the end. My mom never faced that.

I followed my dad into engineering. (Maybe I should have done what teaboy suggests – and gotten my greedy claws into an enabler, lol). I got a bsee from sdsu… much cheaper than Harvey Mudd. I’ve been lucky… I’ve only been laid off once (when defense jobs imploded here in San Diego in 1990) But I would NOT encourage my sons to go into engineering unless they show a passion for it… QC may be pulling back on the offshoring – but my employer is definitely not. They’ve built several new buildings in Bangalore and are building more in China. The writing is on the wall.

I like the idea of vocational schools. A good plumber, mechanic, electrician, etc will never starve.

[UCGal]

My dad had more than 30 years with a local defense contractor when he retired… he was one of the last engineers that had that “job for life” thing going… that’s so gone. He retired about the time the defense industry imploded (mid-late 80’s).

My mom had the job for life thing too – worked for the county… first for a politician (Hedgecock when he was supervisor) then for a non-elective department.

My dad didn’t face the stress of losing his job till the end. My mom never faced that.

I followed my dad into engineering. (Maybe I should have done what teaboy suggests – and gotten my greedy claws into an enabler, lol). I got a bsee from sdsu… much cheaper than Harvey Mudd. I’ve been lucky… I’ve only been laid off once (when defense jobs imploded here in San Diego in 1990) But I would NOT encourage my sons to go into engineering unless they show a passion for it… QC may be pulling back on the offshoring – but my employer is definitely not. They’ve built several new buildings in Bangalore and are building more in China. The writing is on the wall.

I like the idea of vocational schools. A good plumber, mechanic, electrician, etc will never starve.

[UCGal]

My dad had more than 30 years with a local defense contractor when he retired… he was one of the last engineers that had that “job for life” thing going… that’s so gone. He retired about the time the defense industry imploded (mid-late 80’s).

My mom had the job for life thing too – worked for the county… first for a politician (Hedgecock when he was supervisor) then for a non-elective department.

My dad didn’t face the stress of losing his job till the end. My mom never faced that.

I followed my dad into engineering. (Maybe I should have done what teaboy suggests – and gotten my greedy claws into an enabler, lol). I got a bsee from sdsu… much cheaper than Harvey Mudd. I’ve been lucky… I’ve only been laid off once (when defense jobs imploded here in San Diego in 1990) But I would NOT encourage my sons to go into engineering unless they show a passion for it… QC may be pulling back on the offshoring – but my employer is definitely not. They’ve built several new buildings in Bangalore and are building more in China. The writing is on the wall.

I like the idea of vocational schools. A good plumber, mechanic, electrician, etc will never starve.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.
[/quote]

are you still on the fat women thing? What about fat men?

And are you really suggesting someone who’s gone to school, built a career, etc for something like engineering, biotech, whatever, should change careers to something more physical… like gardener, ditch digger, domestic… Most of the jobs that require a big education investment are pretty non physical. (Medicine perhaps being an exception.

I’m not making excuses for being overweight – probably obese. It’s my issue, I own it. I’m working on it. But I really wonder what issues you have that you seem to aggressively dislike women who are overweight – making assumptions that they are bitter and angry (another thread) and that they should change jobs.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.
[/quote]

are you still on the fat women thing? What about fat men?

And are you really suggesting someone who’s gone to school, built a career, etc for something like engineering, biotech, whatever, should change careers to something more physical… like gardener, ditch digger, domestic… Most of the jobs that require a big education investment are pretty non physical. (Medicine perhaps being an exception.

I’m not making excuses for being overweight – probably obese. It’s my issue, I own it. I’m working on it. But I really wonder what issues you have that you seem to aggressively dislike women who are overweight – making assumptions that they are bitter and angry (another thread) and that they should change jobs.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.
[/quote]

are you still on the fat women thing? What about fat men?

And are you really suggesting someone who’s gone to school, built a career, etc for something like engineering, biotech, whatever, should change careers to something more physical… like gardener, ditch digger, domestic… Most of the jobs that require a big education investment are pretty non physical. (Medicine perhaps being an exception.

I’m not making excuses for being overweight – probably obese. It’s my issue, I own it. I’m working on it. But I really wonder what issues you have that you seem to aggressively dislike women who are overweight – making assumptions that they are bitter and angry (another thread) and that they should change jobs.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.
[/quote]

are you still on the fat women thing? What about fat men?

And are you really suggesting someone who’s gone to school, built a career, etc for something like engineering, biotech, whatever, should change careers to something more physical… like gardener, ditch digger, domestic… Most of the jobs that require a big education investment are pretty non physical. (Medicine perhaps being an exception.

I’m not making excuses for being overweight – probably obese. It’s my issue, I own it. I’m working on it. But I really wonder what issues you have that you seem to aggressively dislike women who are overweight – making assumptions that they are bitter and angry (another thread) and that they should change jobs.

[UCGal]

[quote=briansd1]If a fat person has an office job sitting down all day, she might wish to change jobs and do work that requires physical work. That would be the responsible thing to do.
[/quote]

are you still on the fat women thing? What about fat men?

And are you really suggesting someone who’s gone to school, built a career, etc for something like engineering, biotech, whatever, should change careers to something more physical… like gardener, ditch digger, domestic… Most of the jobs that require a big education investment are pretty non physical. (Medicine perhaps being an exception.

I’m not making excuses for being overweight – probably obese. It’s my issue, I own it. I’m working on it. But I really wonder what issues you have that you seem to aggressively dislike women who are overweight – making assumptions that they are bitter and angry (another thread) and that they should change jobs.

[UCGal]

[quote=jpinpb]Yet the 2003 price was 838k.[/quote]
That was my thought, too.
They did not spend the money upgrading the kitchens or baths. (Older appliances, tile counters, etc.)

It looks nice/clean.

You mention the house config is an issue. Can you explain? It’s hard to tell from pictures on a listing.

[UCGal]

[quote=jpinpb]Yet the 2003 price was 838k.[/quote]
That was my thought, too.
They did not spend the money upgrading the kitchens or baths. (Older appliances, tile counters, etc.)

It looks nice/clean.

You mention the house config is an issue. Can you explain? It’s hard to tell from pictures on a listing.

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