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ParticipantYeah, it’s about two or three months from being downgraded to “bedtime story” status. For three years I’ve heard the tale in various forms, it never happened like they said, unlikely it ever will because now it wont even provide enough inventory for a “normal” year.
I took these links from posts that schizo made over a year ago, not sure who runs this data site but the informations is quite telling. Back then, the numbers went down every month, now they show a slight rise in price and decline in inventory for the past six months. In late 2007, san diego inventory was twice what it is today.
http://www.housingtracker.net/asking-prices/san-diego-california
Same thing for riverside county.
http://www.housingtracker.net/asking-prices/riverside-california
manipulation or market forces, it looks like the ship has started to sail.
ParticipantYeah, it’s about two or three months from being downgraded to “bedtime story” status. For three years I’ve heard the tale in various forms, it never happened like they said, unlikely it ever will because now it wont even provide enough inventory for a “normal” year.
I took these links from posts that schizo made over a year ago, not sure who runs this data site but the informations is quite telling. Back then, the numbers went down every month, now they show a slight rise in price and decline in inventory for the past six months. In late 2007, san diego inventory was twice what it is today.
http://www.housingtracker.net/asking-prices/san-diego-california
Same thing for riverside county.
http://www.housingtracker.net/asking-prices/riverside-california
manipulation or market forces, it looks like the ship has started to sail.
ParticipantYeah, it’s about two or three months from being downgraded to “bedtime story” status. For three years I’ve heard the tale in various forms, it never happened like they said, unlikely it ever will because now it wont even provide enough inventory for a “normal” year.
I took these links from posts that schizo made over a year ago, not sure who runs this data site but the informations is quite telling. Back then, the numbers went down every month, now they show a slight rise in price and decline in inventory for the past six months. In late 2007, san diego inventory was twice what it is today.
http://www.housingtracker.net/asking-prices/san-diego-california
Same thing for riverside county.
http://www.housingtracker.net/asking-prices/riverside-california
manipulation or market forces, it looks like the ship has started to sail.
Participant[quote=murf2222] Speaking of 9/11……..if another plane smashes into a high rise how many firefighters you think will be running in there? NONE! They will be stringing yellow caution tape around the perimeter to keep everyone, including themselves from going anywhere near it. YOU CAN BET ON IT!
The only reason that those poor bastards willingly went in there was because NONE of them thought those things were gonna come down.
Cops on the other hand have a much riskier job. In my opinion they should be insulted that Firemen get mentioned in the same breath.
BTW…..no I am NOT a cop and don’t know any personally.
Murf2222[/quote]
How does the most eloquent post and the most absurd end up being from the same author? The following rant is not directed at you, in fact I’m rather impressed with your observation, it’s just a rant meant directed at everyone, so nothing personal.
Murph, you nailed one, since i know some of both and you admitted to knowing neither, yes, cops can be quite envious of firemen. It’s more akin to a navy/marines thing than real envy since they work hand in hand and have to do many similar things. Cops complain that firemen are better paid, work less hours and at the end of the day, chicks dig them and they make calendars with them profiled and they get to work out on duty. Nobody hates them because of a ticket they got, rarely do people try to or succeed in killing them and they get to wait in a cozy firehouse for the next call, using comfortable and familiar restroom facilites. But it ends there, when the next call of a SIDS death or a gruesome vehicle collison comes out, they both go, they both cry inside and the petty jealousy is seen for what it really is, by them both, they realize they are but a band of brothers (or sisters).
The most absurd statement was that if there was ever something similar to 9/11 that they wouldn’t risk their lives knowing the risk, that only the unknown can be credited for their bravery, now that is horseshit. I’ll give you a pass because you’ve never been in the presence of bravery, but there are brave men and women who take risks every day, knowing the risks and they will do it again tomorrow and the next day. Those folks wont break out the yellow tape, they never have, never will, sure it’s not every single one, cowardess can be hidden but bravery cannot be supressed and it washes up in places like the military, fire, police, trauma centers and a couple other places.
It’s kinda ugly how the lord of the flies mentality surfaces in bad times, this is the second time we’ve had a thread like this. Go ahead, reform the pensions, lower the pay, whatever. Ignore that the vast majority of government workers are not really needed and are not in the aforementioned categories. Ignore the fact that california’s woes have more to do with the fact that it has 11% of the nation’s population but has 33% of the nations welfare recipients. Ignore it all, go after the heroes you envy, sit in comfort and say that you can do it just as well. Guess what, even without a pension, without the pay that only now seems high, they will still do what they do, they will still take risks and be heroes because that is what they are. It’s a shame that most cannot see that there are things they are not suited for and appreciate those who are. As required by my contract, the sports reference: Lamar Odom was recently signed to a multiyear, multi million dollar contract, thus preserving my sanity. Do I begrudge him an obscene amount of money for a job that many would do for free? Hell no, I thank him and some of those dollars are mine, actually quite a few of them. He does what I can’t do and what I need him to do for me. You see, if Kevin Garnett was punking Kobe around the rim, I can’t back him down, I can’t get in his face, I can’t steal the rebound, I need a hero, so I pay lamar for what I need but cannot do, I am a great man but I am less of a man than Lamar, as soon as you realize that you a great man, but that you need those that are greater or stronger than you, it will be easier to understand.
Try this experiment, go rent the ten hour miniseries, “band of brothers.” After watching them do things you will never have to, complain about the fact that the VA gave those vets lifetime medical insurance. Then casually walk to your bathroom mirror, slap yourself in the face and apologize to yourself for being such a pussy. i will never know the feeling of how cold bastogne was, I am eternally grateful for those who did and eternally ashamed that I didn’t.
Participant[quote=murf2222] Speaking of 9/11……..if another plane smashes into a high rise how many firefighters you think will be running in there? NONE! They will be stringing yellow caution tape around the perimeter to keep everyone, including themselves from going anywhere near it. YOU CAN BET ON IT!
The only reason that those poor bastards willingly went in there was because NONE of them thought those things were gonna come down.
Cops on the other hand have a much riskier job. In my opinion they should be insulted that Firemen get mentioned in the same breath.
BTW…..no I am NOT a cop and don’t know any personally.
Murf2222[/quote]
How does the most eloquent post and the most absurd end up being from the same author? The following rant is not directed at you, in fact I’m rather impressed with your observation, it’s just a rant meant directed at everyone, so nothing personal.
Murph, you nailed one, since i know some of both and you admitted to knowing neither, yes, cops can be quite envious of firemen. It’s more akin to a navy/marines thing than real envy since they work hand in hand and have to do many similar things. Cops complain that firemen are better paid, work less hours and at the end of the day, chicks dig them and they make calendars with them profiled and they get to work out on duty. Nobody hates them because of a ticket they got, rarely do people try to or succeed in killing them and they get to wait in a cozy firehouse for the next call, using comfortable and familiar restroom facilites. But it ends there, when the next call of a SIDS death or a gruesome vehicle collison comes out, they both go, they both cry inside and the petty jealousy is seen for what it really is, by them both, they realize they are but a band of brothers (or sisters).
The most absurd statement was that if there was ever something similar to 9/11 that they wouldn’t risk their lives knowing the risk, that only the unknown can be credited for their bravery, now that is horseshit. I’ll give you a pass because you’ve never been in the presence of bravery, but there are brave men and women who take risks every day, knowing the risks and they will do it again tomorrow and the next day. Those folks wont break out the yellow tape, they never have, never will, sure it’s not every single one, cowardess can be hidden but bravery cannot be supressed and it washes up in places like the military, fire, police, trauma centers and a couple other places.
It’s kinda ugly how the lord of the flies mentality surfaces in bad times, this is the second time we’ve had a thread like this. Go ahead, reform the pensions, lower the pay, whatever. Ignore that the vast majority of government workers are not really needed and are not in the aforementioned categories. Ignore the fact that california’s woes have more to do with the fact that it has 11% of the nation’s population but has 33% of the nations welfare recipients. Ignore it all, go after the heroes you envy, sit in comfort and say that you can do it just as well. Guess what, even without a pension, without the pay that only now seems high, they will still do what they do, they will still take risks and be heroes because that is what they are. It’s a shame that most cannot see that there are things they are not suited for and appreciate those who are. As required by my contract, the sports reference: Lamar Odom was recently signed to a multiyear, multi million dollar contract, thus preserving my sanity. Do I begrudge him an obscene amount of money for a job that many would do for free? Hell no, I thank him and some of those dollars are mine, actually quite a few of them. He does what I can’t do and what I need him to do for me. You see, if Kevin Garnett was punking Kobe around the rim, I can’t back him down, I can’t get in his face, I can’t steal the rebound, I need a hero, so I pay lamar for what I need but cannot do, I am a great man but I am less of a man than Lamar, as soon as you realize that you a great man, but that you need those that are greater or stronger than you, it will be easier to understand.
Try this experiment, go rent the ten hour miniseries, “band of brothers.” After watching them do things you will never have to, complain about the fact that the VA gave those vets lifetime medical insurance. Then casually walk to your bathroom mirror, slap yourself in the face and apologize to yourself for being such a pussy. i will never know the feeling of how cold bastogne was, I am eternally grateful for those who did and eternally ashamed that I didn’t.
Participant[quote=murf2222] Speaking of 9/11……..if another plane smashes into a high rise how many firefighters you think will be running in there? NONE! They will be stringing yellow caution tape around the perimeter to keep everyone, including themselves from going anywhere near it. YOU CAN BET ON IT!
The only reason that those poor bastards willingly went in there was because NONE of them thought those things were gonna come down.
Cops on the other hand have a much riskier job. In my opinion they should be insulted that Firemen get mentioned in the same breath.
BTW…..no I am NOT a cop and don’t know any personally.
Murf2222[/quote]
How does the most eloquent post and the most absurd end up being from the same author? The following rant is not directed at you, in fact I’m rather impressed with your observation, it’s just a rant meant directed at everyone, so nothing personal.
Murph, you nailed one, since i know some of both and you admitted to knowing neither, yes, cops can be quite envious of firemen. It’s more akin to a navy/marines thing than real envy since they work hand in hand and have to do many similar things. Cops complain that firemen are better paid, work less hours and at the end of the day, chicks dig them and they make calendars with them profiled and they get to work out on duty. Nobody hates them because of a ticket they got, rarely do people try to or succeed in killing them and they get to wait in a cozy firehouse for the next call, using comfortable and familiar restroom facilites. But it ends there, when the next call of a SIDS death or a gruesome vehicle collison comes out, they both go, they both cry inside and the petty jealousy is seen for what it really is, by them both, they realize they are but a band of brothers (or sisters).
The most absurd statement was that if there was ever something similar to 9/11 that they wouldn’t risk their lives knowing the risk, that only the unknown can be credited for their bravery, now that is horseshit. I’ll give you a pass because you’ve never been in the presence of bravery, but there are brave men and women who take risks every day, knowing the risks and they will do it again tomorrow and the next day. Those folks wont break out the yellow tape, they never have, never will, sure it’s not every single one, cowardess can be hidden but bravery cannot be supressed and it washes up in places like the military, fire, police, trauma centers and a couple other places.
It’s kinda ugly how the lord of the flies mentality surfaces in bad times, this is the second time we’ve had a thread like this. Go ahead, reform the pensions, lower the pay, whatever. Ignore that the vast majority of government workers are not really needed and are not in the aforementioned categories. Ignore the fact that california’s woes have more to do with the fact that it has 11% of the nation’s population but has 33% of the nations welfare recipients. Ignore it all, go after the heroes you envy, sit in comfort and say that you can do it just as well. Guess what, even without a pension, without the pay that only now seems high, they will still do what they do, they will still take risks and be heroes because that is what they are. It’s a shame that most cannot see that there are things they are not suited for and appreciate those who are. As required by my contract, the sports reference: Lamar Odom was recently signed to a multiyear, multi million dollar contract, thus preserving my sanity. Do I begrudge him an obscene amount of money for a job that many would do for free? Hell no, I thank him and some of those dollars are mine, actually quite a few of them. He does what I can’t do and what I need him to do for me. You see, if Kevin Garnett was punking Kobe around the rim, I can’t back him down, I can’t get in his face, I can’t steal the rebound, I need a hero, so I pay lamar for what I need but cannot do, I am a great man but I am less of a man than Lamar, as soon as you realize that you a great man, but that you need those that are greater or stronger than you, it will be easier to understand.
Try this experiment, go rent the ten hour miniseries, “band of brothers.” After watching them do things you will never have to, complain about the fact that the VA gave those vets lifetime medical insurance. Then casually walk to your bathroom mirror, slap yourself in the face and apologize to yourself for being such a pussy. i will never know the feeling of how cold bastogne was, I am eternally grateful for those who did and eternally ashamed that I didn’t.
Participant[quote=murf2222] Speaking of 9/11……..if another plane smashes into a high rise how many firefighters you think will be running in there? NONE! They will be stringing yellow caution tape around the perimeter to keep everyone, including themselves from going anywhere near it. YOU CAN BET ON IT!
The only reason that those poor bastards willingly went in there was because NONE of them thought those things were gonna come down.
Cops on the other hand have a much riskier job. In my opinion they should be insulted that Firemen get mentioned in the same breath.
BTW…..no I am NOT a cop and don’t know any personally.
Murf2222[/quote]
How does the most eloquent post and the most absurd end up being from the same author? The following rant is not directed at you, in fact I’m rather impressed with your observation, it’s just a rant meant directed at everyone, so nothing personal.
Murph, you nailed one, since i know some of both and you admitted to knowing neither, yes, cops can be quite envious of firemen. It’s more akin to a navy/marines thing than real envy since they work hand in hand and have to do many similar things. Cops complain that firemen are better paid, work less hours and at the end of the day, chicks dig them and they make calendars with them profiled and they get to work out on duty. Nobody hates them because of a ticket they got, rarely do people try to or succeed in killing them and they get to wait in a cozy firehouse for the next call, using comfortable and familiar restroom facilites. But it ends there, when the next call of a SIDS death or a gruesome vehicle collison comes out, they both go, they both cry inside and the petty jealousy is seen for what it really is, by them both, they realize they are but a band of brothers (or sisters).
The most absurd statement was that if there was ever something similar to 9/11 that they wouldn’t risk their lives knowing the risk, that only the unknown can be credited for their bravery, now that is horseshit. I’ll give you a pass because you’ve never been in the presence of bravery, but there are brave men and women who take risks every day, knowing the risks and they will do it again tomorrow and the next day. Those folks wont break out the yellow tape, they never have, never will, sure it’s not every single one, cowardess can be hidden but bravery cannot be supressed and it washes up in places like the military, fire, police, trauma centers and a couple other places.
It’s kinda ugly how the lord of the flies mentality surfaces in bad times, this is the second time we’ve had a thread like this. Go ahead, reform the pensions, lower the pay, whatever. Ignore that the vast majority of government workers are not really needed and are not in the aforementioned categories. Ignore the fact that california’s woes have more to do with the fact that it has 11% of the nation’s population but has 33% of the nations welfare recipients. Ignore it all, go after the heroes you envy, sit in comfort and say that you can do it just as well. Guess what, even without a pension, without the pay that only now seems high, they will still do what they do, they will still take risks and be heroes because that is what they are. It’s a shame that most cannot see that there are things they are not suited for and appreciate those who are. As required by my contract, the sports reference: Lamar Odom was recently signed to a multiyear, multi million dollar contract, thus preserving my sanity. Do I begrudge him an obscene amount of money for a job that many would do for free? Hell no, I thank him and some of those dollars are mine, actually quite a few of them. He does what I can’t do and what I need him to do for me. You see, if Kevin Garnett was punking Kobe around the rim, I can’t back him down, I can’t get in his face, I can’t steal the rebound, I need a hero, so I pay lamar for what I need but cannot do, I am a great man but I am less of a man than Lamar, as soon as you realize that you a great man, but that you need those that are greater or stronger than you, it will be easier to understand.
Try this experiment, go rent the ten hour miniseries, “band of brothers.” After watching them do things you will never have to, complain about the fact that the VA gave those vets lifetime medical insurance. Then casually walk to your bathroom mirror, slap yourself in the face and apologize to yourself for being such a pussy. i will never know the feeling of how cold bastogne was, I am eternally grateful for those who did and eternally ashamed that I didn’t.
Participant[quote=murf2222] Speaking of 9/11……..if another plane smashes into a high rise how many firefighters you think will be running in there? NONE! They will be stringing yellow caution tape around the perimeter to keep everyone, including themselves from going anywhere near it. YOU CAN BET ON IT!
The only reason that those poor bastards willingly went in there was because NONE of them thought those things were gonna come down.
Cops on the other hand have a much riskier job. In my opinion they should be insulted that Firemen get mentioned in the same breath.
BTW…..no I am NOT a cop and don’t know any personally.
Murf2222[/quote]
How does the most eloquent post and the most absurd end up being from the same author? The following rant is not directed at you, in fact I’m rather impressed with your observation, it’s just a rant meant directed at everyone, so nothing personal.
Murph, you nailed one, since i know some of both and you admitted to knowing neither, yes, cops can be quite envious of firemen. It’s more akin to a navy/marines thing than real envy since they work hand in hand and have to do many similar things. Cops complain that firemen are better paid, work less hours and at the end of the day, chicks dig them and they make calendars with them profiled and they get to work out on duty. Nobody hates them because of a ticket they got, rarely do people try to or succeed in killing them and they get to wait in a cozy firehouse for the next call, using comfortable and familiar restroom facilites. But it ends there, when the next call of a SIDS death or a gruesome vehicle collison comes out, they both go, they both cry inside and the petty jealousy is seen for what it really is, by them both, they realize they are but a band of brothers (or sisters).
The most absurd statement was that if there was ever something similar to 9/11 that they wouldn’t risk their lives knowing the risk, that only the unknown can be credited for their bravery, now that is horseshit. I’ll give you a pass because you’ve never been in the presence of bravery, but there are brave men and women who take risks every day, knowing the risks and they will do it again tomorrow and the next day. Those folks wont break out the yellow tape, they never have, never will, sure it’s not every single one, cowardess can be hidden but bravery cannot be supressed and it washes up in places like the military, fire, police, trauma centers and a couple other places.
It’s kinda ugly how the lord of the flies mentality surfaces in bad times, this is the second time we’ve had a thread like this. Go ahead, reform the pensions, lower the pay, whatever. Ignore that the vast majority of government workers are not really needed and are not in the aforementioned categories. Ignore the fact that california’s woes have more to do with the fact that it has 11% of the nation’s population but has 33% of the nations welfare recipients. Ignore it all, go after the heroes you envy, sit in comfort and say that you can do it just as well. Guess what, even without a pension, without the pay that only now seems high, they will still do what they do, they will still take risks and be heroes because that is what they are. It’s a shame that most cannot see that there are things they are not suited for and appreciate those who are. As required by my contract, the sports reference: Lamar Odom was recently signed to a multiyear, multi million dollar contract, thus preserving my sanity. Do I begrudge him an obscene amount of money for a job that many would do for free? Hell no, I thank him and some of those dollars are mine, actually quite a few of them. He does what I can’t do and what I need him to do for me. You see, if Kevin Garnett was punking Kobe around the rim, I can’t back him down, I can’t get in his face, I can’t steal the rebound, I need a hero, so I pay lamar for what I need but cannot do, I am a great man but I am less of a man than Lamar, as soon as you realize that you a great man, but that you need those that are greater or stronger than you, it will be easier to understand.
Try this experiment, go rent the ten hour miniseries, “band of brothers.” After watching them do things you will never have to, complain about the fact that the VA gave those vets lifetime medical insurance. Then casually walk to your bathroom mirror, slap yourself in the face and apologize to yourself for being such a pussy. i will never know the feeling of how cold bastogne was, I am eternally grateful for those who did and eternally ashamed that I didn’t.
ParticipantNow that was a home run for American Property Enterprises, while the article didn’t disclose the exact purchase prices other than the recent sale, I ran the gis and looked at the taxes, it’s three lots totaling 21 acres, one was 5.5 million, one 4.5 million and the third 2.5 million so lets see, APE buys it in 2003 for probably 4 or 5 mil, sells it to pulte for 12.5 mil, pulte grades it, has utils put in and sells it back to APE for 3 mil. So they end up with the property for free and a couple million for their trouble. How do invest with these guys?
ParticipantNow that was a home run for American Property Enterprises, while the article didn’t disclose the exact purchase prices other than the recent sale, I ran the gis and looked at the taxes, it’s three lots totaling 21 acres, one was 5.5 million, one 4.5 million and the third 2.5 million so lets see, APE buys it in 2003 for probably 4 or 5 mil, sells it to pulte for 12.5 mil, pulte grades it, has utils put in and sells it back to APE for 3 mil. So they end up with the property for free and a couple million for their trouble. How do invest with these guys?
ParticipantNow that was a home run for American Property Enterprises, while the article didn’t disclose the exact purchase prices other than the recent sale, I ran the gis and looked at the taxes, it’s three lots totaling 21 acres, one was 5.5 million, one 4.5 million and the third 2.5 million so lets see, APE buys it in 2003 for probably 4 or 5 mil, sells it to pulte for 12.5 mil, pulte grades it, has utils put in and sells it back to APE for 3 mil. So they end up with the property for free and a couple million for their trouble. How do invest with these guys?
ParticipantNow that was a home run for American Property Enterprises, while the article didn’t disclose the exact purchase prices other than the recent sale, I ran the gis and looked at the taxes, it’s three lots totaling 21 acres, one was 5.5 million, one 4.5 million and the third 2.5 million so lets see, APE buys it in 2003 for probably 4 or 5 mil, sells it to pulte for 12.5 mil, pulte grades it, has utils put in and sells it back to APE for 3 mil. So they end up with the property for free and a couple million for their trouble. How do invest with these guys?
ParticipantNow that was a home run for American Property Enterprises, while the article didn’t disclose the exact purchase prices other than the recent sale, I ran the gis and looked at the taxes, it’s three lots totaling 21 acres, one was 5.5 million, one 4.5 million and the third 2.5 million so lets see, APE buys it in 2003 for probably 4 or 5 mil, sells it to pulte for 12.5 mil, pulte grades it, has utils put in and sells it back to APE for 3 mil. So they end up with the property for free and a couple million for their trouble. How do invest with these guys?
ParticipantIn rerospect maybe, I was looking in 2007 and didn’t see that good of a deal but then again I didn’t negotiate, just dropped by from time to time because I was all about the view and wolf lacks it, plus I had nothing to sell so waiting another year and half worked out for me. Of course you can do better than that now but you’ll get less for your current place, the difference may be more now than it was then. They would have called you a knife catcher then but the math might have been better. If you still want to go bigger and can swing it, now may be a good time to buy a repo and rent your current place out.
300k can land you just about anywhere you want to be right now, however a 4 car garage is hard to find. It’s amazing how underated garges are. I have a 3 car now, I’m a single guy and I’ve already used the entire thing and would love a 4 car, but i guess if I got one I’d want more, ultimately I think I just need to win the lottery so i can buy and airplane hanger or something like that. I’ll bet there is a guy who has an airplane hanger as a garage and he thinks it’s too small. I think I just stumbled onto one of the secrets of the male mind, there are three things no guy has ever complained are too large, breasts on his partner, his own manhood and his garage. No matter how large any of them are, you always want more.
Such is life.
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