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Participanthow did i get so old and worn out
Participant[quote=outtamojo]You are out of mojo.[/quote]
Motel, money, murder, madness
Let’s change the mood from glad to sadnessMr. Mojo Risin’, Mr. Mojo Risin’
Mr. Mojo Risin’, Mr. Mojo Risin’
Got to keep on risin’
Mr. Mojo Risin’, Mr. Mojo Risin’
Mojo Risin’, gotta Mojo Risin’
Mr. Mojo Risin’, gotta keep on risin’
Risin’, risin’
Gone risin’, risin’
I’m gone risin’, risin’
I gotta risin’, risin’
Well, risin’, risin’
I gotta, woo, yeah, risin’
Whoa, oh, yeahParticipantha ha herman cain in hospital for covid after attending tulsa rally. maybe trump really will get infected from tulsa rally.
young people are largely democrat, republicans primarily the oldsters.
forget gerrymandering or ballot shenanigans…the ‘publicans need to keep these geezers alive to vote to stay in power! republicans should probably be more prudent with the masks and lockdowns. i could see a scenario where old people are afraid to leave the house to vote and arent afforded absentee ballots. that would be really funny.
riverside county regrets….the cost of being overweight and diabetic is coming home to roost. like saving money is good for weathering bad times, being trim and with a good body system is good for weathering pandemics; me, I’ll probably just die because i have so little will to live. i think i have very little fight left. great bloodwork, fit, but no desire for anything.
Participant[quote=gzz]Money helps me avoid the things that get me away from my normal happy state.[/quote]
for instance?
kobe avoided some freeway traffic with his money…what are you avoiding?
Participant[quote=The-Shoveler]https://www.worldometers.info/coronaviru…?
IMO it is not even close to accurate count.
IMO China far under reported by 10 – 20 fold[/quote]
Excluding china, us still near top on per capita counts. Unless the whole worlds lying.
As the buddhists say, tho, how do you not burn when the whole worlds on fire.
We couldve done a more controlled burn…
July 1, 2020 at 6:43 PM in reply to: What are people seeing in terms of loan rates, difficulty in getting loans? #818606ParticipantOwning told me min 300k loan 4 best rate.
Participant[quote=DWCAP]I would just like to point out a few key details here. This isn’t a ‘no beds for you level’ of crisis.
1) Many ICU’s run in the low to mid 90’s% full at any given time, even pre-Covid. So, 85-95% ICU beds taken is “normal”.
2) Of the ICU patients in hospital right now in Riverside, 28% are due to COVID-19. All Hospital beds are only 63% occupied right now, so alot of beds can be expanded, and non-critical surgeries and medical care can be delayed again to free up more beds. Remember, if 28% of ICU patients are COVID, than 72% of beds are not COVID. These turn over quickly.
3) San Bernadino County has only 82% of beds taken, which is actually rather low.
Surgeries can be moved or delayed. ICU beds turn over daily. There is more than 1 hospital “nearby”. There are beds available if needed.[/quote]
ty. i feel better.
maybe its like looking at any trend. the mind tends to follow any curve out into paradise or disaster.
looks like the govt also is scared of the curve. further shutdowns ordered.
Participant[quote=The-Shoveler][quote=scaredyclassic][/quote
that’s the spirit that made America great!Other countries managed to control it. we just suck, so let it rip. They’re jealous of our freedom.[/quote]
Not quite true (OK there are a few much much smaller countries that appear to have done a better job) but even in china they are having second waves and mostly in the hardest hit areas it was more of a burn out.[/quote]
i think we have 25% of the worlds cases.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?
we are just a tiny bit of the worlds population but we use a disproportionately large share of its resources and its covid.
i think it is not unfair to say that we really truly suck as a nation at dealing with this. we might be good at other things, like buying tons of crap we dont need, and creating awesome weaponry, but at caring for one another and our health? we are the pits.
Participant[quote=livinincali][quote=spdrun]Since the US (outside of NY and a few other states) can’t seem to handle basic fucking precautions like wearing masks, the cynic in me says maybe it’s best to let it go, infect and kill where it may, burn out, so we can return to normal standards of healthcare. I can understand not liking full lockdowns, but I feel like the anti-mask, anti-science crowd has made its bed. Let them lie in it with a bucket full of bedbugs.
We in the NY area should just institute hard border controls to keep ‘zonies from coming in.[/quote]
The CDC itself doesn’t believe in face masks preventing anything. Handwashing it fairly proven but that’s hard to measure with viral photos, wearing facewmasks is easy. You can public shame someone for not wearing a facemask but hand washing not so much.
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Face MasksIn our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25) (Figure 2). One study evaluated the use of masks among pilgrims from Australia during the Hajj pilgrimage and reported no major difference in the risk for laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infection in the control or mask group (33). Two studies in university settings assessed the effectiveness of face masks for primary protection by monitoring the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza among student hall residents for 5 months (9,10). The overall reduction in ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza cases in the face mask group was not significant in either studies (9,10). Study designs in the 7 household studies were slightly different: 1 study provided face masks and P2 respirators for household contacts only (34), another study evaluated face mask use as a source control for infected persons only (35), and the remaining studies provided masks for the infected persons as well as their close contacts (11–13,15,17). None of the household studies reported a significant reduction in secondary laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the face mask group (11–13,15,17,34,35). Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group.
Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.
[/quote]Bottom line Covid ain’t going away and a vaccine is unlikely to work. It’s probably time to just live with it and let the cards fall where they may. Thinking another couple of months of social distancing and face masks is going to resolve it is a pipe dream.[/quote]
that’s the spirit that made America great!
Other countries managed to control it. we just suck, so let it rip. They’re jealous of our freedom.
ParticipantWpm and rgld. Precious metal mine play. Worth reading about if interested in metals hedges.
ParticipantRiverside bars just closed down.
Participant[quote=barnaby33]We’re all going to get this, full stop. Herd immunity is the only known cure. I hate to sound like a dick as I have no wish for anyone to be ill. However with no cure and no real treatment on the horizon the absolute best we can hope for is to keep our hospital system and most vulnerable protected while the rest of us get it.
Think I’m wrong, great! Show me the path to a cure, please!
That being said, any region with 98.7% of it’s ICU full should be locked back down and hard.
Josh[/quote]i have been thinking this way. might have been better in retrospect to get it early, when there were plentiful icu beds.
im feeling more vulnerable than usual right now because i recently developed a growth on my foot, benign, but annoying. it’s not going to kill me, but it is a sign that my time is limited, getting a somewhat rare condition of the middle aged than can progress is the kind of thing that makes you think, huh, maybe i will not live forever… maybe excessive walking stimulated it to be there. unknown etiology.
ParticipantNo man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend’s or of thine own were: any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Participant[quote=The-Shoveler]Coronavirus: could it be burning out after 20% of a population is infected?
LIKE A MIRACLE, IT WILL GO AWAY.
article itself says that it is “speculation”, based on some pretty loose array of facts.
but i guess it’s possible. it does seem to be spreading in weird ways with different levels of mortality.
i doubt it though
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