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ParticipantIf you look at Rich’s posts regarding rent prices in SD County during the last down cycle, he notes that rental prices declined between 5% and 10% in the early 1990’s. I was here then and it was a dismal place from an economic view point. I would be surprised if it got that bad again. But it may.
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ParticipantIf you look at Rich’s posts regarding rent prices in SD County during the last down cycle, he notes that rental prices declined between 5% and 10% in the early 1990’s. I was here then and it was a dismal place from an economic view point. I would be surprised if it got that bad again. But it may.
peterb
ParticipantIf you look at Rich’s posts regarding rent prices in SD County during the last down cycle, he notes that rental prices declined between 5% and 10% in the early 1990’s. I was here then and it was a dismal place from an economic view point. I would be surprised if it got that bad again. But it may.
peterb
ParticipantIf you look at Rich’s posts regarding rent prices in SD County during the last down cycle, he notes that rental prices declined between 5% and 10% in the early 1990’s. I was here then and it was a dismal place from an economic view point. I would be surprised if it got that bad again. But it may.
peterb
ParticipantAnyone buying right now is basing the purchase on recent historical reference and not looking forward. In other words, they’re buying because it seems so cheap compared to the last 3 years of pricing. Rather than asking themselves, “Where and when will appreciation begin again?” This has all the signs of a false rally. With every step down, some money comes in that thinks it’s cheap, but they’re not asking themselves “What will cause it to rise again?”. There’s virtually no news for the next couple of years that indicates a rise in prices and almost everything points to further declines. The best long term historical references we have suggests that the median price should stabilize at 3 to 5 times median HH income. And at these levels, investors can also see rents being able to cash flow slightly positive. In my opinion, that’s where prices have to get in order to stabilize. And it still does not mean they will rise anytime soon after stabilization has been reached. Long term historical evidence suggests that rising prices almost always are preceded by unemployment below 5%. Who knows how long that will take????!!!
peterb
ParticipantAnyone buying right now is basing the purchase on recent historical reference and not looking forward. In other words, they’re buying because it seems so cheap compared to the last 3 years of pricing. Rather than asking themselves, “Where and when will appreciation begin again?” This has all the signs of a false rally. With every step down, some money comes in that thinks it’s cheap, but they’re not asking themselves “What will cause it to rise again?”. There’s virtually no news for the next couple of years that indicates a rise in prices and almost everything points to further declines. The best long term historical references we have suggests that the median price should stabilize at 3 to 5 times median HH income. And at these levels, investors can also see rents being able to cash flow slightly positive. In my opinion, that’s where prices have to get in order to stabilize. And it still does not mean they will rise anytime soon after stabilization has been reached. Long term historical evidence suggests that rising prices almost always are preceded by unemployment below 5%. Who knows how long that will take????!!!
peterb
ParticipantAnyone buying right now is basing the purchase on recent historical reference and not looking forward. In other words, they’re buying because it seems so cheap compared to the last 3 years of pricing. Rather than asking themselves, “Where and when will appreciation begin again?” This has all the signs of a false rally. With every step down, some money comes in that thinks it’s cheap, but they’re not asking themselves “What will cause it to rise again?”. There’s virtually no news for the next couple of years that indicates a rise in prices and almost everything points to further declines. The best long term historical references we have suggests that the median price should stabilize at 3 to 5 times median HH income. And at these levels, investors can also see rents being able to cash flow slightly positive. In my opinion, that’s where prices have to get in order to stabilize. And it still does not mean they will rise anytime soon after stabilization has been reached. Long term historical evidence suggests that rising prices almost always are preceded by unemployment below 5%. Who knows how long that will take????!!!
peterb
ParticipantAnyone buying right now is basing the purchase on recent historical reference and not looking forward. In other words, they’re buying because it seems so cheap compared to the last 3 years of pricing. Rather than asking themselves, “Where and when will appreciation begin again?” This has all the signs of a false rally. With every step down, some money comes in that thinks it’s cheap, but they’re not asking themselves “What will cause it to rise again?”. There’s virtually no news for the next couple of years that indicates a rise in prices and almost everything points to further declines. The best long term historical references we have suggests that the median price should stabilize at 3 to 5 times median HH income. And at these levels, investors can also see rents being able to cash flow slightly positive. In my opinion, that’s where prices have to get in order to stabilize. And it still does not mean they will rise anytime soon after stabilization has been reached. Long term historical evidence suggests that rising prices almost always are preceded by unemployment below 5%. Who knows how long that will take????!!!
peterb
ParticipantAnyone buying right now is basing the purchase on recent historical reference and not looking forward. In other words, they’re buying because it seems so cheap compared to the last 3 years of pricing. Rather than asking themselves, “Where and when will appreciation begin again?” This has all the signs of a false rally. With every step down, some money comes in that thinks it’s cheap, but they’re not asking themselves “What will cause it to rise again?”. There’s virtually no news for the next couple of years that indicates a rise in prices and almost everything points to further declines. The best long term historical references we have suggests that the median price should stabilize at 3 to 5 times median HH income. And at these levels, investors can also see rents being able to cash flow slightly positive. In my opinion, that’s where prices have to get in order to stabilize. And it still does not mean they will rise anytime soon after stabilization has been reached. Long term historical evidence suggests that rising prices almost always are preceded by unemployment below 5%. Who knows how long that will take????!!!
peterb
ParticipantUncharted is right. Both Bruce Norris and Ward Hannigan, two very seasoned RE investors, have commented that this down cycle is unlike the last couple in many ways and far more severe in depth and speed. Foreclosures topped-out at about 700 a month in the 1990’s for SD county. They’re now approaching 2000 a month! And the full brunt of the recession has yet to hit.
peterb
ParticipantUncharted is right. Both Bruce Norris and Ward Hannigan, two very seasoned RE investors, have commented that this down cycle is unlike the last couple in many ways and far more severe in depth and speed. Foreclosures topped-out at about 700 a month in the 1990’s for SD county. They’re now approaching 2000 a month! And the full brunt of the recession has yet to hit.
peterb
ParticipantUncharted is right. Both Bruce Norris and Ward Hannigan, two very seasoned RE investors, have commented that this down cycle is unlike the last couple in many ways and far more severe in depth and speed. Foreclosures topped-out at about 700 a month in the 1990’s for SD county. They’re now approaching 2000 a month! And the full brunt of the recession has yet to hit.
peterb
ParticipantUncharted is right. Both Bruce Norris and Ward Hannigan, two very seasoned RE investors, have commented that this down cycle is unlike the last couple in many ways and far more severe in depth and speed. Foreclosures topped-out at about 700 a month in the 1990’s for SD county. They’re now approaching 2000 a month! And the full brunt of the recession has yet to hit.
peterb
ParticipantUncharted is right. Both Bruce Norris and Ward Hannigan, two very seasoned RE investors, have commented that this down cycle is unlike the last couple in many ways and far more severe in depth and speed. Foreclosures topped-out at about 700 a month in the 1990’s for SD county. They’re now approaching 2000 a month! And the full brunt of the recession has yet to hit.
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