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I agree with JWM. We ain’t seen nothin’ yet!

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Foreigners who come in legally but overstay their visas, then become illegals, do have records of their entry.

Except for certain land crossings, all foreigners coming in to the USofA are required to give the street address of where they’re staying and are issued I94 card to record their entry. So yes, Homeland Security does record visitors but they don’t follow up and deport visitors who overstay.

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I think that the $5000 penalty is too much and few illegals will be able to, or will want to pay that amount without the guarantee that they’ll be legalized. Paying $5000 with an application is no guarantee of approval. $1000 would be a fair penalty in my view.

Those of you who oppose immigration reform should take the pragmatic view. The 12 million illegals are here already. Do you want them to remain here illegally and be part of the underground economy; or do you want them to be integrated in society. Is deportation even an option?

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jg, you feel strongly enough about this issue to want to impeach Bush. What would you propose?

I would impeach Bush on Iraq but give him credit for doing the right thing on immigration. That shows you how opposites differ but might become bedfellows to achieve a common goal. 🙂

[PerryChase]

Foreigners who come in legally but overstay their visas, then become illegals, do have records of their entry.

Except for certain land crossings, all foreigners coming in to the USofA are required to give the street address of where they’re staying and are issued I94 card to record their entry. So yes, Homeland Security does record visitors but they don’t follow up and deport visitors who overstay.

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I think that the $5000 penalty is too much and few illegals will be able to, or will want to pay that amount without the guarantee that they’ll be legalized. Paying $5000 with an application is no guarantee of approval. $1000 would be a fair penalty in my view.

Those of you who oppose immigration reform should take the pragmatic view. The 12 million illegals are here already. Do you want them to remain here illegally and be part of the underground economy; or do you want them to be integrated in society. Is deportation even an option?

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jg, you feel strongly enough about this issue to want to impeach Bush. What would you propose?

I would impeach Bush on Iraq but give him credit for doing the right thing on immigration. That shows you how opposites differ but might become bedfellows to achieve a common goal. 🙂

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Do any of you who are complaining bitterly against Mexican illegals, ever hire day-laborers, gardeners or maids? If you do, make sure you check their IDs and pay the social security taxes. How about the contractors you hire to build your patio or your pool?

Do you think that people who live in 3000-6000sf Mc Mansions don’t ever hire illegals to maintain their houses? Real estate drove illegal immigration and a lot of people benefited.

Follow any upper middle class family home and on errands and you’ll see that most of them employ illegals for one thing or another. I know a couple who live in a 6000sf Mc Mansion with a live-in Mexican maid who is without documents. I practiced my Spanish and she told me her story :). Well that couple are Rush Limbaugh Republicans!! But they make exceptions for themselves — just like their hero.

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Do any of you who are complaining bitterly against Mexican illegals, ever hire day-laborers, gardeners or maids? If you do, make sure you check their IDs and pay the social security taxes. How about the contractors you hire to build your patio or your pool?

Do you think that people who live in 3000-6000sf Mc Mansions don’t ever hire illegals to maintain their houses? Real estate drove illegal immigration and a lot of people benefited.

Follow any upper middle class family home and on errands and you’ll see that most of them employ illegals for one thing or another. I know a couple who live in a 6000sf Mc Mansion with a live-in Mexican maid who is without documents. I practiced my Spanish and she told me her story :). Well that couple are Rush Limbaugh Republicans!! But they make exceptions for themselves — just like their hero.

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I like Ariana Huffington. I still remember her then husband, Michael Huffington’s GOP campaign against Diane Feinstein, in 1994, when the Republican gained control of congress.

Funny thing is that Michael Huffington is still a Republican and came out as gay! Picture the expression of shock among the religious Republicans. Ariana, on the other hand, is pretty progressive.

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Bush named Roland Arnall, owner of Ameriquest, ambassador to the Netherlands. He’s one of the largest contributor to the Republican party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Arnall

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I like Ariana Huffington. I still remember her then husband, Michael Huffington’s GOP campaign against Diane Feinstein, in 1994, when the Republican gained control of congress.

Funny thing is that Michael Huffington is still a Republican and came out as gay! Picture the expression of shock among the religious Republicans. Ariana, on the other hand, is pretty progressive.

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Bush named Roland Arnall, owner of Ameriquest, ambassador to the Netherlands. He’s one of the largest contributor to the Republican party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Arnall

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As much as I hate to say it, I support Bush on the immigration bill. It’s the right thing to do and it’ll enrich and grow our country.

I think that the deal will happen because:

1) Business interests support it. They need workers. Bush’ polls are so low now that it won’t make a difference if the signs the bill. Bush spent all his political capital in Iraq. He’s needs to finally payoff the business wing of the party.

2) Liberal Democrats (the intellectual wing) support it. So they need to pass it during a Republican administration to avoid the wrath of the labor unions.

Yes, this deal won’t end illegal immigration and might attract others. But America is big enough; and a growing dynamic society and economy is what keeps us ahead of the world.

Think about it, without population growth, Real Estate will not go up. Are we ready to face a declining population with declining asset values? I think not.

[PerryChase]

As much as I hate to say it, I support Bush on the immigration bill. It’s the right thing to do and it’ll enrich and grow our country.

I think that the deal will happen because:

1) Business interests support it. They need workers. Bush’ polls are so low now that it won’t make a difference if the signs the bill. Bush spent all his political capital in Iraq. He’s needs to finally payoff the business wing of the party.

2) Liberal Democrats (the intellectual wing) support it. So they need to pass it during a Republican administration to avoid the wrath of the labor unions.

Yes, this deal won’t end illegal immigration and might attract others. But America is big enough; and a growing dynamic society and economy is what keeps us ahead of the world.

Think about it, without population growth, Real Estate will not go up. Are we ready to face a declining population with declining asset values? I think not.

[PerryChase]

I think that bias, hence racism, is part of human nature. We want the best for our own small group but want to keep others from accessing what we have (because self-esteem and happiness is relative to others). I can image a white family being biased against Blacks. But if a daughter marries a black man, and has children with him, than the attitudes will change.

That type of human bias is plainly obvious when you look at criminal law. Most voters support very tough penalties for criminals. But if one of their children commits a crime, they’ll plead for clemency, arguing that kid is a very good person who was influenced by “bad” people (ie other people’s kids)

I think that deflection is a human survival instinct. If one looks in the mirror and the only thing one sees is ugliness, then there’s no reason for living and reproducing.

Now, truly civilized and compassionate people recognize the bias and work to end it.

[PerryChase]

I think that bias, hence racism, is part of human nature. We want the best for our own small group but want to keep others from accessing what we have (because self-esteem and happiness is relative to others). I can image a white family being biased against Blacks. But if a daughter marries a black man, and has children with him, than the attitudes will change.

That type of human bias is plainly obvious when you look at criminal law. Most voters support very tough penalties for criminals. But if one of their children commits a crime, they’ll plead for clemency, arguing that kid is a very good person who was influenced by “bad” people (ie other people’s kids)

I think that deflection is a human survival instinct. If one looks in the mirror and the only thing one sees is ugliness, then there’s no reason for living and reproducing.

Now, truly civilized and compassionate people recognize the bias and work to end it.

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very insightful, no_such_reality. I think that you’re on to something. Most owner or renters only care about cash flow — that is fitting the monthly payments into their budget.

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very insightful, no_such_reality. I think that you’re on to something. Most owner or renters only care about cash flow — that is fitting the monthly payments into their budget.

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Did you guys go to the courthouse lately? Yesterday, I went to the El Cajon courthouse for a small matter and in the front lobby there’s a sign pointing to where the foreclosure documents are. There’s a table setup with stacks of foreclosure auction paperwork. A couple of years ago, who’d have thought that we’d come to this? Well, many of us here on Piggington knew that it’d only be a matter of time.

[PerryChase]

Did you guys go to the courthouse lately? Yesterday, I went to the El Cajon courthouse for a small matter and in the front lobby there’s a sign pointing to where the foreclosure documents are. There’s a table setup with stacks of foreclosure auction paperwork. A couple of years ago, who’d have thought that we’d come to this? Well, many of us here on Piggington knew that it’d only be a matter of time.

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