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ParticipantWell, I did a little more research…
#1 Minimum Wage
– failure to pay minimum wage
– Penalty: $100 to each employee first violation
$250 to each employee each payperiod#2 Pay Stub Rules
– Inclusive dates of pay period
– Name of employee and SSI number (last four digits)
– Name and address of employer
– hourly rates and hours worked by employee
– Penalty: $100 per employee, per violation – $4000 max#3 Report New Employees
– Employee’s full name, SSI number, address, and start-of-work date
– Employer’s name, address, California employer account number, and FEIN.
– Within 20 days of hiring
– Penalty: $24 per employeeThe penalties just on these items for 1 employee for 1 year:
#1 = $100 + ($250 x 25 wks) = $6,350
#2 = $100 + ($100 x 25wks) = $2,600
#3 = $24Therefore, I can calcualate at least $8,974 in penalties per employee for employers who hire workers off the books – legal or illegal for one
year.This would not be subject to discrimination charges by the Federal Courts because it would be applied to equally to citizens, non-citizens, authorized immigrants, or unauthorized immigrants under current laws that have been in place for many years. The violations are against the employers, not employees – unauthorized immigrants.
Did you know that of 389 inspections only 4,092 unreported employees were found at a citation amount of $4,106,894 or a $1000 per person.
http://www.edd.ca.gov/Payroll_Taxes/Underground_Economy_Operations.htmThat is only 1 inspection per day. The estimated number of illegal immigrants in California is 3 million. If I assume that 1/3 are employed, it will take the state of California (EDD) 244 years to find them all.
I know I could do better myself. I wonder if the state would contract that out to me. It is quite obvious our California and Federal politicians do not want to address the underground economy due to the immigration issue. I think I could get elected to Governor on just this platform.
Lucky In OC for Governor in 2014…
ParticipantWell, I did a little more research…
#1 Minimum Wage
– failure to pay minimum wage
– Penalty: $100 to each employee first violation
$250 to each employee each payperiod#2 Pay Stub Rules
– Inclusive dates of pay period
– Name of employee and SSI number (last four digits)
– Name and address of employer
– hourly rates and hours worked by employee
– Penalty: $100 per employee, per violation – $4000 max#3 Report New Employees
– Employee’s full name, SSI number, address, and start-of-work date
– Employer’s name, address, California employer account number, and FEIN.
– Within 20 days of hiring
– Penalty: $24 per employeeThe penalties just on these items for 1 employee for 1 year:
#1 = $100 + ($250 x 25 wks) = $6,350
#2 = $100 + ($100 x 25wks) = $2,600
#3 = $24Therefore, I can calcualate at least $8,974 in penalties per employee for employers who hire workers off the books – legal or illegal for one
year.This would not be subject to discrimination charges by the Federal Courts because it would be applied to equally to citizens, non-citizens, authorized immigrants, or unauthorized immigrants under current laws that have been in place for many years. The violations are against the employers, not employees – unauthorized immigrants.
Did you know that of 389 inspections only 4,092 unreported employees were found at a citation amount of $4,106,894 or a $1000 per person.
http://www.edd.ca.gov/Payroll_Taxes/Underground_Economy_Operations.htmThat is only 1 inspection per day. The estimated number of illegal immigrants in California is 3 million. If I assume that 1/3 are employed, it will take the state of California (EDD) 244 years to find them all.
I know I could do better myself. I wonder if the state would contract that out to me. It is quite obvious our California and Federal politicians do not want to address the underground economy due to the immigration issue. I think I could get elected to Governor on just this platform.
Lucky In OC for Governor in 2014…
ParticipantWell, I did a little more research…
#1 Minimum Wage
– failure to pay minimum wage
– Penalty: $100 to each employee first violation
$250 to each employee each payperiod#2 Pay Stub Rules
– Inclusive dates of pay period
– Name of employee and SSI number (last four digits)
– Name and address of employer
– hourly rates and hours worked by employee
– Penalty: $100 per employee, per violation – $4000 max#3 Report New Employees
– Employee’s full name, SSI number, address, and start-of-work date
– Employer’s name, address, California employer account number, and FEIN.
– Within 20 days of hiring
– Penalty: $24 per employeeThe penalties just on these items for 1 employee for 1 year:
#1 = $100 + ($250 x 25 wks) = $6,350
#2 = $100 + ($100 x 25wks) = $2,600
#3 = $24Therefore, I can calcualate at least $8,974 in penalties per employee for employers who hire workers off the books – legal or illegal for one
year.This would not be subject to discrimination charges by the Federal Courts because it would be applied to equally to citizens, non-citizens, authorized immigrants, or unauthorized immigrants under current laws that have been in place for many years. The violations are against the employers, not employees – unauthorized immigrants.
Did you know that of 389 inspections only 4,092 unreported employees were found at a citation amount of $4,106,894 or a $1000 per person.
http://www.edd.ca.gov/Payroll_Taxes/Underground_Economy_Operations.htmThat is only 1 inspection per day. The estimated number of illegal immigrants in California is 3 million. If I assume that 1/3 are employed, it will take the state of California (EDD) 244 years to find them all.
I know I could do better myself. I wonder if the state would contract that out to me. It is quite obvious our California and Federal politicians do not want to address the underground economy due to the immigration issue. I think I could get elected to Governor on just this platform.
Lucky In OC for Governor in 2014…
ParticipantWell, I did a little more research…
#1 Minimum Wage
– failure to pay minimum wage
– Penalty: $100 to each employee first violation
$250 to each employee each payperiod#2 Pay Stub Rules
– Inclusive dates of pay period
– Name of employee and SSI number (last four digits)
– Name and address of employer
– hourly rates and hours worked by employee
– Penalty: $100 per employee, per violation – $4000 max#3 Report New Employees
– Employee’s full name, SSI number, address, and start-of-work date
– Employer’s name, address, California employer account number, and FEIN.
– Within 20 days of hiring
– Penalty: $24 per employeeThe penalties just on these items for 1 employee for 1 year:
#1 = $100 + ($250 x 25 wks) = $6,350
#2 = $100 + ($100 x 25wks) = $2,600
#3 = $24Therefore, I can calcualate at least $8,974 in penalties per employee for employers who hire workers off the books – legal or illegal for one
year.This would not be subject to discrimination charges by the Federal Courts because it would be applied to equally to citizens, non-citizens, authorized immigrants, or unauthorized immigrants under current laws that have been in place for many years. The violations are against the employers, not employees – unauthorized immigrants.
Did you know that of 389 inspections only 4,092 unreported employees were found at a citation amount of $4,106,894 or a $1000 per person.
http://www.edd.ca.gov/Payroll_Taxes/Underground_Economy_Operations.htmThat is only 1 inspection per day. The estimated number of illegal immigrants in California is 3 million. If I assume that 1/3 are employed, it will take the state of California (EDD) 244 years to find them all.
I know I could do better myself. I wonder if the state would contract that out to me. It is quite obvious our California and Federal politicians do not want to address the underground economy due to the immigration issue. I think I could get elected to Governor on just this platform.
Lucky In OC for Governor in 2014…
ParticipantWhy legalize unauthorized immigrants first and still then enforce current law against the employers. Why not first enforce the current laws to force the employers to hire legal employees and thereby eliminate the abuse of unauthorized immigrants. The unauthorized immigrants will return to place of origin and work towards legal immigration required by current law. This requires no debate, no new laws, just action by our government (Republican or Democrat).
We should use California state income tax law to punish the employers for hiring unauthorized immigrants. State income tax is under state jurisdiction and not federal jurisdiction. The state has a constitutional right to collect taxes. There should be no reason the state cannot conduct income tax audits on businesses suspected of fraudulent employment practices. The FTB currently has this authority and responsibility. This would be more affective than stopping individuals on the street.
Penalize the demand of the product (illegal jobs) and the supply (unauthorized immigrants) will be greatly reduced. It is funny how the same individuals want to do the same for energy. Penalize the demand of the product (Gas prices) and the supply (Oil) will be reduce. But they don’t have any problem with it.
Lucky In OC
ParticipantWhy legalize unauthorized immigrants first and still then enforce current law against the employers. Why not first enforce the current laws to force the employers to hire legal employees and thereby eliminate the abuse of unauthorized immigrants. The unauthorized immigrants will return to place of origin and work towards legal immigration required by current law. This requires no debate, no new laws, just action by our government (Republican or Democrat).
We should use California state income tax law to punish the employers for hiring unauthorized immigrants. State income tax is under state jurisdiction and not federal jurisdiction. The state has a constitutional right to collect taxes. There should be no reason the state cannot conduct income tax audits on businesses suspected of fraudulent employment practices. The FTB currently has this authority and responsibility. This would be more affective than stopping individuals on the street.
Penalize the demand of the product (illegal jobs) and the supply (unauthorized immigrants) will be greatly reduced. It is funny how the same individuals want to do the same for energy. Penalize the demand of the product (Gas prices) and the supply (Oil) will be reduce. But they don’t have any problem with it.
Lucky In OC
ParticipantWhy legalize unauthorized immigrants first and still then enforce current law against the employers. Why not first enforce the current laws to force the employers to hire legal employees and thereby eliminate the abuse of unauthorized immigrants. The unauthorized immigrants will return to place of origin and work towards legal immigration required by current law. This requires no debate, no new laws, just action by our government (Republican or Democrat).
We should use California state income tax law to punish the employers for hiring unauthorized immigrants. State income tax is under state jurisdiction and not federal jurisdiction. The state has a constitutional right to collect taxes. There should be no reason the state cannot conduct income tax audits on businesses suspected of fraudulent employment practices. The FTB currently has this authority and responsibility. This would be more affective than stopping individuals on the street.
Penalize the demand of the product (illegal jobs) and the supply (unauthorized immigrants) will be greatly reduced. It is funny how the same individuals want to do the same for energy. Penalize the demand of the product (Gas prices) and the supply (Oil) will be reduce. But they don’t have any problem with it.
Lucky In OC
ParticipantWhy legalize unauthorized immigrants first and still then enforce current law against the employers. Why not first enforce the current laws to force the employers to hire legal employees and thereby eliminate the abuse of unauthorized immigrants. The unauthorized immigrants will return to place of origin and work towards legal immigration required by current law. This requires no debate, no new laws, just action by our government (Republican or Democrat).
We should use California state income tax law to punish the employers for hiring unauthorized immigrants. State income tax is under state jurisdiction and not federal jurisdiction. The state has a constitutional right to collect taxes. There should be no reason the state cannot conduct income tax audits on businesses suspected of fraudulent employment practices. The FTB currently has this authority and responsibility. This would be more affective than stopping individuals on the street.
Penalize the demand of the product (illegal jobs) and the supply (unauthorized immigrants) will be greatly reduced. It is funny how the same individuals want to do the same for energy. Penalize the demand of the product (Gas prices) and the supply (Oil) will be reduce. But they don’t have any problem with it.
Lucky In OC
ParticipantWhy legalize unauthorized immigrants first and still then enforce current law against the employers. Why not first enforce the current laws to force the employers to hire legal employees and thereby eliminate the abuse of unauthorized immigrants. The unauthorized immigrants will return to place of origin and work towards legal immigration required by current law. This requires no debate, no new laws, just action by our government (Republican or Democrat).
We should use California state income tax law to punish the employers for hiring unauthorized immigrants. State income tax is under state jurisdiction and not federal jurisdiction. The state has a constitutional right to collect taxes. There should be no reason the state cannot conduct income tax audits on businesses suspected of fraudulent employment practices. The FTB currently has this authority and responsibility. This would be more affective than stopping individuals on the street.
Penalize the demand of the product (illegal jobs) and the supply (unauthorized immigrants) will be greatly reduced. It is funny how the same individuals want to do the same for energy. Penalize the demand of the product (Gas prices) and the supply (Oil) will be reduce. But they don’t have any problem with it.
Lucky In OC
Participant[quote=Diego Mamani]According to the law of the land, only the Federal government has jurisdiction over immigration matters. The bigoted Arizona law may be popular with the majority now, but that doesn’t make it constitutional. (The National Socialist party in Germany was very popular with the majority in the 1930s, but they were still on the wrong side of history.)[/quote]
According to the law of the land, the Federal government has jurisdiction over bank robberies. Then why are local police the ones that apprehend and arrest the perps only to hand them over to the Feds. The state has laws that make robbery a crime that the police must enforce. Should the state change the law so bank robbery is not a crime because it is under the jurisdiction of the Fed. Should the local police just look the other way and make the FBI police its own jurisdiction and catch the robbers? This makes just as much sense.
It is not a question of jurisdiction of prosecution but jurisdiction of enforcement. For bank robberies, local police has jurisdiction of enforcement, but not prosecution. The FBI comes in ‘afterwards’ to prosecute the perps under Federal jurisdiction. This is because the Fed does not have enough personnel to secure and patrol every federal banking institution. The Fed relies on local police. Why should the illegal immigration problem be any different? If the Fed does not have enough resources to cover the banks, how could they possibly have enough resources to find 12 million illegal aliens without the help of local police?
That is all the law in Arizona is providing – additional enforcement. It is still up to the Government to prosecute illegal aliens. The local police should be able enforce all federal, state, and local laws that provide for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to its citizenry.
Lucky In OC
Participant[quote=Diego Mamani]According to the law of the land, only the Federal government has jurisdiction over immigration matters. The bigoted Arizona law may be popular with the majority now, but that doesn’t make it constitutional. (The National Socialist party in Germany was very popular with the majority in the 1930s, but they were still on the wrong side of history.)[/quote]
According to the law of the land, the Federal government has jurisdiction over bank robberies. Then why are local police the ones that apprehend and arrest the perps only to hand them over to the Feds. The state has laws that make robbery a crime that the police must enforce. Should the state change the law so bank robbery is not a crime because it is under the jurisdiction of the Fed. Should the local police just look the other way and make the FBI police its own jurisdiction and catch the robbers? This makes just as much sense.
It is not a question of jurisdiction of prosecution but jurisdiction of enforcement. For bank robberies, local police has jurisdiction of enforcement, but not prosecution. The FBI comes in ‘afterwards’ to prosecute the perps under Federal jurisdiction. This is because the Fed does not have enough personnel to secure and patrol every federal banking institution. The Fed relies on local police. Why should the illegal immigration problem be any different? If the Fed does not have enough resources to cover the banks, how could they possibly have enough resources to find 12 million illegal aliens without the help of local police?
That is all the law in Arizona is providing – additional enforcement. It is still up to the Government to prosecute illegal aliens. The local police should be able enforce all federal, state, and local laws that provide for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to its citizenry.
Lucky In OC
Participant[quote=Diego Mamani]According to the law of the land, only the Federal government has jurisdiction over immigration matters. The bigoted Arizona law may be popular with the majority now, but that doesn’t make it constitutional. (The National Socialist party in Germany was very popular with the majority in the 1930s, but they were still on the wrong side of history.)[/quote]
According to the law of the land, the Federal government has jurisdiction over bank robberies. Then why are local police the ones that apprehend and arrest the perps only to hand them over to the Feds. The state has laws that make robbery a crime that the police must enforce. Should the state change the law so bank robbery is not a crime because it is under the jurisdiction of the Fed. Should the local police just look the other way and make the FBI police its own jurisdiction and catch the robbers? This makes just as much sense.
It is not a question of jurisdiction of prosecution but jurisdiction of enforcement. For bank robberies, local police has jurisdiction of enforcement, but not prosecution. The FBI comes in ‘afterwards’ to prosecute the perps under Federal jurisdiction. This is because the Fed does not have enough personnel to secure and patrol every federal banking institution. The Fed relies on local police. Why should the illegal immigration problem be any different? If the Fed does not have enough resources to cover the banks, how could they possibly have enough resources to find 12 million illegal aliens without the help of local police?
That is all the law in Arizona is providing – additional enforcement. It is still up to the Government to prosecute illegal aliens. The local police should be able enforce all federal, state, and local laws that provide for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to its citizenry.
Lucky In OC
Participant[quote=Diego Mamani]According to the law of the land, only the Federal government has jurisdiction over immigration matters. The bigoted Arizona law may be popular with the majority now, but that doesn’t make it constitutional. (The National Socialist party in Germany was very popular with the majority in the 1930s, but they were still on the wrong side of history.)[/quote]
According to the law of the land, the Federal government has jurisdiction over bank robberies. Then why are local police the ones that apprehend and arrest the perps only to hand them over to the Feds. The state has laws that make robbery a crime that the police must enforce. Should the state change the law so bank robbery is not a crime because it is under the jurisdiction of the Fed. Should the local police just look the other way and make the FBI police its own jurisdiction and catch the robbers? This makes just as much sense.
It is not a question of jurisdiction of prosecution but jurisdiction of enforcement. For bank robberies, local police has jurisdiction of enforcement, but not prosecution. The FBI comes in ‘afterwards’ to prosecute the perps under Federal jurisdiction. This is because the Fed does not have enough personnel to secure and patrol every federal banking institution. The Fed relies on local police. Why should the illegal immigration problem be any different? If the Fed does not have enough resources to cover the banks, how could they possibly have enough resources to find 12 million illegal aliens without the help of local police?
That is all the law in Arizona is providing – additional enforcement. It is still up to the Government to prosecute illegal aliens. The local police should be able enforce all federal, state, and local laws that provide for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to its citizenry.
Lucky In OC
Participant[quote=Diego Mamani]According to the law of the land, only the Federal government has jurisdiction over immigration matters. The bigoted Arizona law may be popular with the majority now, but that doesn’t make it constitutional. (The National Socialist party in Germany was very popular with the majority in the 1930s, but they were still on the wrong side of history.)[/quote]
According to the law of the land, the Federal government has jurisdiction over bank robberies. Then why are local police the ones that apprehend and arrest the perps only to hand them over to the Feds. The state has laws that make robbery a crime that the police must enforce. Should the state change the law so bank robbery is not a crime because it is under the jurisdiction of the Fed. Should the local police just look the other way and make the FBI police its own jurisdiction and catch the robbers? This makes just as much sense.
It is not a question of jurisdiction of prosecution but jurisdiction of enforcement. For bank robberies, local police has jurisdiction of enforcement, but not prosecution. The FBI comes in ‘afterwards’ to prosecute the perps under Federal jurisdiction. This is because the Fed does not have enough personnel to secure and patrol every federal banking institution. The Fed relies on local police. Why should the illegal immigration problem be any different? If the Fed does not have enough resources to cover the banks, how could they possibly have enough resources to find 12 million illegal aliens without the help of local police?
That is all the law in Arizona is providing – additional enforcement. It is still up to the Government to prosecute illegal aliens. The local police should be able enforce all federal, state, and local laws that provide for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to its citizenry.
Lucky In OC
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