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Participant[quote=lifeisgood] I do blame any company that goes through the motions of interviewing qualified Americans just to hire someone out of country to pay them less. By the way, so no one gets their panties in a bunch, I know and understand that H1-B’s are compensated well. I’m sure that it’s not as high as skilled workers in their positions would be making had the program not existed. If the companies didn’t benefit financially, then what’s the point. No will ever lead me to believe that we don’t have enough highly intelligient American citizens to pick from.
[/quote]No question that engineers will be making more if H1-B program did not exist. It is a simple demand & supply equation.
The companies are obviously benefiting financially with H1-B, at the cost of intelligent americans who will not work for the wages offered by these un-american companies. Even your elected representatives are in their pocket i.e. un-american.
The shareholders of these companies always demand higher value for a lower operating expense… but never demand that these companies hire intelligent americans… they are un-american too.
Since you said this will affect your vote, why don’t you check the record of your representative in either house on this issue?
Since you so strongly “believe”, you could vote with your wallet too by not investing in such companies.Participant[quote=lifeisgood]
What kind of graduates are they pumping out? What are you getting at? I’m assuming that they are pumping out engineers. Am I wrong? We have many problems with immigration. I’m just bringing up one. We can site many examples of abuse and talk about this countries demise till we’re blue in the face. I was recently introduced to the H1-B process and started doing a little research. I saw it as a problem that deserved hearing other peoples opinions on. I chose to bring it up here so that I could speak to highly intelligent educated people. By no means am I saying that this is my only immigration concern. I might be one of the few that is hanging onto the hope that this country can become great again.
[/quote]You say you are doing research, I gave you the best possible path to go observe for yourself. Why assume what they are “pumping out” when you can go see for yourself? If the student body looked ((ahem)) “american” and then they looked very different at qcom, you can make the argument that qcom is going out of their way to hire H1-Bs. If not, you will realize that the problem is not qcom… the problem is not enough american kids are going thru the engineering schools. Unfortunately, in this great country of yours, you cannot force them to go to an engineering school.
Why do that when you can get into student debt and get a liberal arts degree that is practically useless for many tech employers?
Ever seen an H1-B in liberal arts? You don’t because that “specialty” has a glut of americans…ParticipantIf you really want to educate yourself and not “believe”, you could take a short drive to SDSU or UCSD, park by the engineering school and look at who is there. It will become very clear to you (in less than 15 mins) about the ‘kinds’ of graduates being pumped out of there. They do not look too dissimilar from what you will see when you park yourself by Scranton Rd. Then, hopefully, you will ask yourself the more relevant question: Why are engineering schools not “pumping out” enough americans ?
And if you think that is bad, park yourself by the business schools and watch!These workers care as much about your country as you care about the country of origin on all parts of the car you buy or the shopping you do.
I have never met one American who refuses to buy avocados from CA because of the abuse and horrible work conditions of the avocado pickers. They are of course “patriotic” and against illegal immigration, but hey, why do you think those things go for $0.99 a piece? Magic?
H1-B is no different.[quote=lifeisgood]http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-visas-tech-workers-h1b-20150217-story.html
Hello everyone! I haven’t posted in awhile. I need some educated opinions so that I can open my mind up about the feeling I have towards the broken H1-B visa program. I currently believe that the system is being abused. San Diego is a breeding ground for this program due to the tech jobs that are available. I live in Rancho Bernardo and so do many H1-B visa holders. I find it hard to believe that companies like Qualcomm and others can’t find qualified Americans to fill their positions of need. In SD alone there are two Engineering schools pumping out graduates every year. I also believe that these companies know they can hire immigrants, that come from countries with no worker protections such as overtime pay and scheduled break time, and overwork them and pay them less than an American worker would agree to. I think it’s a shame. Most of theses workers could care less about the United States and are here solely for personal gain. If you disagree with me, please let me know. I’m trying to get different points of view so that I can have a well rounded opinion. With the upcoming Presidential election, this will be a topic that will sway my vote. Thanks for your responses in advance.[/quote]
Participant[quote=The-Shoveler]I think even Apple’s results indicated the smartphone biz kind of topping out.
What do you do when you cannot continue to grow 15-20% a year?
Same issue with health care (share holders want to see 15-20% growth year after year after year).
What to do.[/quote]
when I see 7 year olds with 2 smartphones, 2 tablets and in some cases a book reader, I kind of figured there is nobody else to sell this to. A good indication of the market topping out.
Maybe the next market comes from selling pet-enabled tablets. You heard it here first!Participant[quote=deadzone]
Are you saying the average Qcom engineer makes 200K per year? Sounds a bit high to me, maybe I need to put in a resume.
Also, why are Indians not considered Asians, even though they come from the continent of Asia?[/quote]
Cultural reasons. Just because they are physically from the continent of Asia does not mean culturally they are considered Asians (unlike in EU).
A similar example is the word “white”. It has very different connotations in other parts of the world as opposed to here.
Just an example… I would hate for this to go OT from the main topic of this discussion.July 18, 2015 at 12:17 PM in reply to: OT: For all the crap people give walmart….seems like they treat their software engineers pretty well :) #788032Participant[quote=no_such_reality][quote=kev374]I’m surprised at all these high salaries considering it is extremely difficult to get a job in Software Engineering right now. A friend of mine has been searching for over 2 months in the Bay Area and hasn’t found anything yet. His skills are in Informatica and MicroStrategy. Another one I know is Sr. Java with 15 years and can’t find anything, a hiring manager mentioned that there were 50 resumes from Indian temp workers (who have creatively circumvented H1b laws) on his desk within a day for 1 open position…that’s where this competition is coming from.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/Silicon-Valleys-Body-Shop-Secret-280567322.html%5B/quote%5D
Yea, that’s a game that’s catching on leveraging h-2bs too. You take a guy from India, pay him top of India pay, fly him over, pay per diem him for hotel and food and cut the on shore rate a little bit. The contract house goes from a 20-30% margin to an 70-80% margin and the client sees 20-30%contract rate reduction. One hour a day covers expenses and the rest is gravy. The India person is making $20/hr but shipping it all home and it’s better money and better conditions than working there.
Plus creative resume writing. But no one cares, they’re disposable, if they don’t work out you kick’em out, send them home and bring in indentured servant 156,007 of 1,200,000,009.
Cynical, I’m way too cynical.[/quote]
Sometimes I wonder who the indentured servant is: the one beholden to his/her mortgage and prisoner to the lifestyle or the other who is grabbing his/her chance to improve their economic lot.
These claims always remind me of what I read about the chinese grocer in indonesia paradox: all the locals argue that the chinese grocer is driving them out of business with his low prices. At the same time they argue that he is getting rich at the expense of the locals! And of course, all the locals shop there too.
I forget the name of the author, but the point was that it is always easy for people to resort to tribalism than take a look at the most obvious reason: the chinese grocer is willing to live on lot less margins to build the business than the locals are used to.
Maybe because acknowledging the most obvious reason means that locals have to tune down their lifestyle to be able to compete better. But why would anybody want to do that when there is chance of getting benefit via complaining?July 8, 2015 at 12:24 PM in reply to: OT: How to combat a repetitive scam phone call from “Windows Technical Support” #787786ParticipantYou all seem to have a lot of time in your lives (and still use cordless phone).
Participant[quote=svelte]$100 every two weeks, takes 3-4 hours. 3000 sf.
We’ve used her for probably a decade. Never anything questionable – no broken items, nothing missed, nothing missing, very thorough.
We’ve got a house that is shall we say unusual…never any questions asked. It all gets cleaned. Sometimes I’d like to see her reaction to the various rooms though…not for the prudish or faint-hearted.[/quote]
$100 for 3 to 4 hours of cleaning? If you don’t mind me asking, what does the cleaning involve other than dusting, vacuuming etc… ?
And why does it take so long if it is done every two weeks?ParticipantI’m gonna hit that number in 2 months… about a year late, thanks to an investment decision that cut my IRA in half. This is with $0 in real estate as my name indicates. With some help from capital gains, stock options and in being a good w-2 slave.
It is simple math, but if you are age 25 and in the tech business, it is very easy to hit a 7-digit net worth before your 40th birthday in addition to raising a family; in San Diego; on a single income. But that requires you to have a savings goal which is at least 40% of your income… i.e. no expensive vacations, no ‘nice’ cars in return for ability to retire early. And you can still have a good life.
But I can already feel that this is still middle class number… getting to an 8 digit net worth might feel good.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I have some young relatives visiting on a budget.
Does anyone know where to get discounts tickets to places such as Universal Studios and Six Flags?[/quote]Try Craigslist. Many people sell tickets at discounted prices on that site.
ParticipantThe fact that you decided to post about it shows you care about your future. You are already 99% there with the admission that you have no savings. That is the hardest part.
Unless you are tied to that neighborhood or schools, selling the home, paying off all debts, save some and then rent for a while would be a great idea.
Participant[quote=poorgradstudent][quote=dumbrenter]Funny that those that argue that women should have control over their bodies turn around and want needles to be poked into everyone else.[/quote]
Actually, the Anti-Vax community is an odd hodgepodge of the far left and far right. They tend to be very white and fairly affluent with access to good health care; poor minorities are more likely to be behind on vaccinations when entering school without intent.It’s actually most of us in the relative middle that support mandatory vaccinations.[/quote]
That is true. But the same applies to the militant mandatory poke-all-kids community too.
I found this illuminating: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/get-silicon-valleys-unvaccinated-change-minds/Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]
yeah, why should anyone get to choose the number of kids they have. It’s outrageous. If your retirement requires us breeders to sire one litter per year so be. There shall be no further birthday control. Be fruitful and multiply! I assume you’ve been meeting your quota and not allowing any of that wonderful money seed to spill unfertilized…any guy jacking off could be a threat to my pocketbook![/quote]
Funny! but this is the ridiculous extent that things can be taken to with the same argument.
At the end of the day, aside from all the smugness and ‘idiot’ name-calling all the conservatives & liberals want one thing: control over your body & your mind… they just differ on which part.
It used to be pastors & clergy before, but they went out fashion, nothing else changed.Participant[quote=harvey][quote=dumbrenter]Am trying to make sense of your words…. [/quote]
You might want to start with making sense of your own words.[/quote]
You the same person with two accounts?
If not, harvey, this must have really riled you up for you to take the trouble of providing such a gracious response.
I did, but still don’t make sense of “carmelV” related questions from flu (or is it harvey now).Any other suggestions or things you want to vent about? Please do, it need not have anything to do about the point I was making BTW.
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