OT: For all the crap people give walmart….seems like they treat their software engineers pretty well :)

[Coronita]

As a software engineer, Walmart’s eCommerce division seems to compensate people pretty well.

Trivia: Walmart is currently #2 in eCommerce, right behind amazon.

I never knew…

http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Walmart-eCommerce-Principal-Software-Engineer-Salaries-E29449_D_KO18,45.htm
$233k total comp package isn’t shabby at all.

Not to mention 4 weeks of starting vacation, 6% 401k match
Looks like a few open positions in San Diego.

If I were looking for enterprise software work, I’d probably consider them. Seems like there comp is at least as good (if not better) than Intuit

[moneymaker]

I’ve noticed that ever since their remodel a few years ago that their prices have gone up, maybe that is how they support such good wages for software engineers. I’ve used their ship to store and like it but several big companies like Home Depot suck as far as differentiating on their websites exactly what they have in the store and what they don’t.

[FlyerInHi]

I noticed that they are the first to implement processing credit card with smart chips. Meaning you insert credit card instead of swiping.

[Coronita]

Awhile ago, I said I would never shop at walmart. But I have to admit that I’ve made purchases from their online stores several times recently because in many cases their prices are more competitive versus amazon, especially after amazon lost it’s no sales tax collection status. I still buy stuff from Amazon and use their amazon prime services. eWalmart is actually pretty good imho. I get the feeling corporate walmart is changing. And at least wrto to software engineers, they seem to treat their engineers pretty well (at least right now)…

[jeff303]

Their high compensation is reflective of the fact that they have to overcome negative perceptions likely held by many of the qualified candidates for this type of work.

[Coronita]

[quote=jeff303]Their high compensation is reflective of the fact that they have to overcome negative perceptions likely held by many of the qualified candidates for this type of work.[/quote]

What negative perception? eCommerce is eCommerce is eCommerce… If I were still in enteprise backend development, I would totally apply….

And if I got the job and people asked me where I worked, I would say “I work at Walmart. I enjoy greeting people everyday in the storefront… and they are paying me a heck of a lot for it..”

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=flu]”I work at Walmart. I enjoy greeting people everyday in the storefront… and they are paying me a heck of a lot for it..”[/quote]

LOL well if you get a IT-job at Disney you get to walk around greeting people in one of those Goofy suits once or twice a year, and they pay very well also from what I understand.

[an]

[quote=jeff303]Their high compensation is reflective of the fact that they have to overcome negative perceptions likely held by many of the qualified candidates for this type of work.[/quote]
The negative perception might be true for young and impressionable people. But does it really matter if you write SQL queries for Walmart.com or Amazon.com? I personally don’t care. If I’m in server side stuff, I would totally apply, especially with that kind of compensation.

[joec]

Working in this area in the past, I’d say it’s an advantage to work at the larger companies due to simply more money for projects (more toys!), tougher, more scalable environments to play in and much more useful skills in general to transfer to other companies so if you wanted to work at Amazon AWS or something, having worked at Walmart or financial companies or highly available sites is a better, more useful skill.

[livinincali]

[quote=The-Shoveler][quote=flu]”I work at Walmart. I enjoy greeting people everyday in the storefront… and they are paying me a heck of a lot for it..”[/quote]

LOL well if you get a IT-job at Disney you get to walk around greeting people in one of those Goofy suits once or twice a year, and they pay very well also from what I understand.[/quote]

Actually Disney is going to try to outsource your job to India as long as they don’t get hammered in the press.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-disney-technology-h1b-20150617-story.html

[The-Shoveler]

Outsourcing to India is not as easy as it sounds and not a cheap as it used to be.

(unless you want lousy work done).

Very very hard to get someone there at 11:00 AM here and work for more than a few months before quitting,

Actually much easier to hire someone here to work from midnight to 9 AM than it is in India.

[jeff303]

[quote=AN]
The negative perception might be true for young and impressionable people. But does it really matter if you write SQL queries for Walmart.com or Amazon.com? I personally don’t care. If I’m in server side stuff, I would totally apply, especially with that kind of compensation.[/quote]

I agree. I would apply here myself if I wasn’t already satisfied with my current role.

I guess I should have made the point more clearly that perception and reality are different, and I’m not arguing that the perception is correct. But it’s undeniable that Wal-Mart has a more negative perception amongst the general population than, say, Amazon (rightly or wrongly). Obviously, people who know how these businesses work or software development happens would realize there is very little difference in the work environments. And people who are a bit more knowledgeable can rightly point out the poor working conditions in Amazon warehouses, etc. But when you talk to your non-technical cousin about where you work, it’s sexier to be able to say “Amazon” than “Wal-Mart”. They’re not stupid; they pay a little more to get the same caliber of developer. And of course, they can afford to, given that they’re a ~$500 billion revenue company.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Outsourcing to India is not as easy as it sounds and not a cheap as it used to be.

(unless you want lousy work done).

Very very hard to get someone there at 11:00 AM here and work for more than a few months before quitting,

Actually much easier to hire someone here to work from midnight to 9 AM than it is in India.[/quote]

Doesn’t matter, the decisions makers don’t believe your excuses and the people selling the services blow massive sunshine saying otherwise.

In the end, it’s a spreadsheet showing a guy like flu making $200K a year here and a guy ‘like’ flu there making the equivalent of $40k.

Mid-level technical people can be staffed for sub-$10/hr there.

Thin the herd, make the staffing someone elses problem, give them a margin slice and take a fabled 30% of your labor expense.

[The-Shoveler]

Whatever, I have seen competitors, outsource, lose market share, then have to move it back on shore.

happen quite often.

[Coronita]

[quote=no_such_reality][quote=The-Shoveler]Outsourcing to India is not as easy as it sounds and not a cheap as it used to be.

(unless you want lousy work done).

Very very hard to get someone there at 11:00 AM here and work for more than a few months before quitting,

Actually much easier to hire someone here to work from midnight to 9 AM than it is in India.[/quote]

Doesn’t matter, the decisions makers don’t believe your excuses and the people selling the services blow massive sunshine saying otherwise.

In the end, it’s a spreadsheet showing a guy like flu making $200K a year here and a guy ‘like’ flu there making the equivalent of $40k.

Mid-level technical people can be staffed for sub-$10/hr there.

Thin the herd, make the staffing someone elses problem, give them a margin slice and take a fabled 30% of your labor expense.[/quote]

Well it’s funny that you should mention that…Because right now, my senior managers are finding they need about 9 people to cover all the things I was previously working on. If I didn’t like my VP so much, I really like my VP so I’m doing what I can think of to ensure a smooth transition…
because my VP’s is one of the few that totally doesn’t try to offshore things as the first idea, despite all the headwind they are getting from the bean counters….If it was any other type of senior manager bean counter that was trying to get me train an overseas team, I would have refused. I think there’s a hidden code we’re trying to hand off as much as possible to our domestic locations because we know the results will be better….

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