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Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing…[/quote]
Djshakes, this is a great skillset. I don’t think “keyboarding” is taught anymore because now most 9-year-olds can do it with their thumbs, lol. And I WISH “personal finance” would be mandated as a HS graduation requirement in CA. I haven’t seen it offered. Your accounting classes are taught here at the community college level. Marketing USED to be taught in HS in the “olden days” under the acronym “DECA.” I have not seen it offered it my district.
Maybe you could get a part-time teaching gig in accounting in the eves at a cc if you find time 🙂 You won’t need a credential for this.[/quote]
Well, there is a reason WI schools are better than CA. All the money they dump into schools out here and the kids don’t even have elective choices.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]
Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.[/quote]
With all the cuts and fresh grads there is a large amount of applicants in the pool. I have a friend who was recently cut and still looking for a job. He also coaches. There is nothing out there.
Credentialing isn’t normally a separate process you go through. You get credentialed when you graduate from an accredited program, your bachelors degree. I’m sure there are some forms and basic one day courses in which jstoesz mentioned. These are formalities.
There isn’t a problem with replacing open spots…there are no spots to replace. They are either cutting the positions of the aging teacher once they retire or there are no positions at all.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]
Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.[/quote]
With all the cuts and fresh grads there is a large amount of applicants in the pool. I have a friend who was recently cut and still looking for a job. He also coaches. There is nothing out there.
Credentialing isn’t normally a separate process you go through. You get credentialed when you graduate from an accredited program, your bachelors degree. I’m sure there are some forms and basic one day courses in which jstoesz mentioned. These are formalities.
There isn’t a problem with replacing open spots…there are no spots to replace. They are either cutting the positions of the aging teacher once they retire or there are no positions at all.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]
Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.[/quote]
With all the cuts and fresh grads there is a large amount of applicants in the pool. I have a friend who was recently cut and still looking for a job. He also coaches. There is nothing out there.
Credentialing isn’t normally a separate process you go through. You get credentialed when you graduate from an accredited program, your bachelors degree. I’m sure there are some forms and basic one day courses in which jstoesz mentioned. These are formalities.
There isn’t a problem with replacing open spots…there are no spots to replace. They are either cutting the positions of the aging teacher once they retire or there are no positions at all.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]
Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.[/quote]
With all the cuts and fresh grads there is a large amount of applicants in the pool. I have a friend who was recently cut and still looking for a job. He also coaches. There is nothing out there.
Credentialing isn’t normally a separate process you go through. You get credentialed when you graduate from an accredited program, your bachelors degree. I’m sure there are some forms and basic one day courses in which jstoesz mentioned. These are formalities.
There isn’t a problem with replacing open spots…there are no spots to replace. They are either cutting the positions of the aging teacher once they retire or there are no positions at all.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=jstoesz]…BTW, from what I have heard (from people who have gone through the credentialing process) getting a credential is kind of a joke. It is more of a bureaucratic hoop than anything. It does not make you a better teacher, only states the obvious (such as don’t smack johnny around when he is being a punk kid).[/quote]
Well, then, I’d say if more grads could/wished to successfully navigate CA’s “bureaucratic hoops” to obtain a credential, then there would be a nice supply of “replacements” for all of our aging teachers. The “hoops” must be there for a reason, jstoesz. I’m just not seeing all these candidates. I’m seeing “credential-pending” teaching candidates working as temporary low-paid teachers under the supervision of an experienced teacher. They seem to come and go and never actually get hired by the district. Maybe a CA teacher Pigg can explain to us why this is so.[/quote]
With all the cuts and fresh grads there is a large amount of applicants in the pool. I have a friend who was recently cut and still looking for a job. He also coaches. There is nothing out there.
Credentialing isn’t normally a separate process you go through. You get credentialed when you graduate from an accredited program, your bachelors degree. I’m sure there are some forms and basic one day courses in which jstoesz mentioned. These are formalities.
There isn’t a problem with replacing open spots…there are no spots to replace. They are either cutting the positions of the aging teacher once they retire or there are no positions at all.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]Thanks for the interesting link, Djshakes. A “single-subject” credential is not the same as being able to teach all subjects at a grade level (such as K-6). Also, several of the current teaching staff you are seeking to replace are certified to teach more than one subject at the HS level. I take from your post that you never actually taught in CA?
Just curious, Djshakes. What subject did you teach in HS? And why didn’t you go thru with the credentialing process in CA?[/quote]
I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing.
In order to be certified you had to pass a standardized test before you enrolled in the program. Once enrolled you had to graduate with a bachelors degree from a certified program. UW-Whitewater was one of two colleges in the state that offered my certification at the time. I believe there were on-going professional development course that state required to maintain your license.
I didn’t pursue a teaching career in CA because I wanted to go private. The compensation was better compared to what I was used to in WI. I think I started at $28K a year. I didn’t realized teachers were paid so much out here. At the time I was coaching, working as a server part-time AND teaching full time. I moved out here and became an accountant and made as much as I did with all three jobs before. I was also a little burnt out on teaching or maybe I would have looked into it out here as compensation is higher.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]Thanks for the interesting link, Djshakes. A “single-subject” credential is not the same as being able to teach all subjects at a grade level (such as K-6). Also, several of the current teaching staff you are seeking to replace are certified to teach more than one subject at the HS level. I take from your post that you never actually taught in CA?
Just curious, Djshakes. What subject did you teach in HS? And why didn’t you go thru with the credentialing process in CA?[/quote]
I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing.
In order to be certified you had to pass a standardized test before you enrolled in the program. Once enrolled you had to graduate with a bachelors degree from a certified program. UW-Whitewater was one of two colleges in the state that offered my certification at the time. I believe there were on-going professional development course that state required to maintain your license.
I didn’t pursue a teaching career in CA because I wanted to go private. The compensation was better compared to what I was used to in WI. I think I started at $28K a year. I didn’t realized teachers were paid so much out here. At the time I was coaching, working as a server part-time AND teaching full time. I moved out here and became an accountant and made as much as I did with all three jobs before. I was also a little burnt out on teaching or maybe I would have looked into it out here as compensation is higher.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]Thanks for the interesting link, Djshakes. A “single-subject” credential is not the same as being able to teach all subjects at a grade level (such as K-6). Also, several of the current teaching staff you are seeking to replace are certified to teach more than one subject at the HS level. I take from your post that you never actually taught in CA?
Just curious, Djshakes. What subject did you teach in HS? And why didn’t you go thru with the credentialing process in CA?[/quote]
I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing.
In order to be certified you had to pass a standardized test before you enrolled in the program. Once enrolled you had to graduate with a bachelors degree from a certified program. UW-Whitewater was one of two colleges in the state that offered my certification at the time. I believe there were on-going professional development course that state required to maintain your license.
I didn’t pursue a teaching career in CA because I wanted to go private. The compensation was better compared to what I was used to in WI. I think I started at $28K a year. I didn’t realized teachers were paid so much out here. At the time I was coaching, working as a server part-time AND teaching full time. I moved out here and became an accountant and made as much as I did with all three jobs before. I was also a little burnt out on teaching or maybe I would have looked into it out here as compensation is higher.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]Thanks for the interesting link, Djshakes. A “single-subject” credential is not the same as being able to teach all subjects at a grade level (such as K-6). Also, several of the current teaching staff you are seeking to replace are certified to teach more than one subject at the HS level. I take from your post that you never actually taught in CA?
Just curious, Djshakes. What subject did you teach in HS? And why didn’t you go thru with the credentialing process in CA?[/quote]
I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing.
In order to be certified you had to pass a standardized test before you enrolled in the program. Once enrolled you had to graduate with a bachelors degree from a certified program. UW-Whitewater was one of two colleges in the state that offered my certification at the time. I believe there were on-going professional development course that state required to maintain your license.
I didn’t pursue a teaching career in CA because I wanted to go private. The compensation was better compared to what I was used to in WI. I think I started at $28K a year. I didn’t realized teachers were paid so much out here. At the time I was coaching, working as a server part-time AND teaching full time. I moved out here and became an accountant and made as much as I did with all three jobs before. I was also a little burnt out on teaching or maybe I would have looked into it out here as compensation is higher.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]Thanks for the interesting link, Djshakes. A “single-subject” credential is not the same as being able to teach all subjects at a grade level (such as K-6). Also, several of the current teaching staff you are seeking to replace are certified to teach more than one subject at the HS level. I take from your post that you never actually taught in CA?
Just curious, Djshakes. What subject did you teach in HS? And why didn’t you go thru with the credentialing process in CA?[/quote]
I was dually certified to teach business and marketing. I taught at public school outside of Milwaukee. Courses I taught were: Accounting, Intermediate accounting, Advanced accounting, keyboarding, Computer applications 1&2, personal finance, Marketing.
In order to be certified you had to pass a standardized test before you enrolled in the program. Once enrolled you had to graduate with a bachelors degree from a certified program. UW-Whitewater was one of two colleges in the state that offered my certification at the time. I believe there were on-going professional development course that state required to maintain your license.
I didn’t pursue a teaching career in CA because I wanted to go private. The compensation was better compared to what I was used to in WI. I think I started at $28K a year. I didn’t realized teachers were paid so much out here. At the time I was coaching, working as a server part-time AND teaching full time. I moved out here and became an accountant and made as much as I did with all three jobs before. I was also a little burnt out on teaching or maybe I would have looked into it out here as compensation is higher.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.
For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]
Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.
Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??[/quote]
I haven’t really cared enough to look at current ratios of education major graduates but I would assume there would be plenty of fresh graduates looking for work that were education majors.
Teacher credentialing is rigorous? Doesn’t look any different than what I went through in WI. If I wanted to teach in CA when I moved here all I had to do was pass the CBEST test(if I remember name correctly).
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.
For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]
Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.
Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??[/quote]
I haven’t really cared enough to look at current ratios of education major graduates but I would assume there would be plenty of fresh graduates looking for work that were education majors.
Teacher credentialing is rigorous? Doesn’t look any different than what I went through in WI. If I wanted to teach in CA when I moved here all I had to do was pass the CBEST test(if I remember name correctly).
Participant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.
For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]
Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.
Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??[/quote]
I haven’t really cared enough to look at current ratios of education major graduates but I would assume there would be plenty of fresh graduates looking for work that were education majors.
Teacher credentialing is rigorous? Doesn’t look any different than what I went through in WI. If I wanted to teach in CA when I moved here all I had to do was pass the CBEST test(if I remember name correctly).
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