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CoronitaParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]From what I understand in Italy, if you are over 60 they (the hospitals) just turn you away.
You don’t get looked at even, no staff no room.[/quote]
Sad, just sad.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]There’s 1.4 million people in SD County. a 2% infection rate would mean 28k people infected. Of that, 70% of people infected would need a ventilator or go to the ICU, using a small sample space obtained from patients in China, or roughly 19.6k people in SD. In San Diego County, how many hospital beds do we have total and how many ventilators are available at hospitals? Probably half.
Screw toilet paper. I just ordered a oxygen ventilator, taking a lesson from the hospitals in Italy, before people figure this out. I needed to use my FSA health account anyway.[/quote]
Why not reserve the hospital beds for the elderly? Younger folks, just give them a month’s worth of flu & hiv drugs to take home?[/quote]
This thing isn’t just hitting the elderly. It depends as well. You could have complications depending on your own body or immune system, etc. Hopefully, medical professionals won’t be needing to make decisions on whether they should give the ventilator to your 80+year old grandma that can’t breath versus some 24year old person that for some reason also can’t breath, because they don’t have enough ventilators. I believe Italy hospitals are doing just that right now. I’m fearful if it came to that, those elderly won’t get a ventilator.
BYOV: bring your own ventilator. Even if you were allocated one, perhaps you end up saving someone else’s life that might not have gotten one.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=ltsdd]Here’s a thought about the stock market. Why not close them all down (all exchanges around the globe) and reopen after the coronavirus is dealt with? On the other hand most of the damage is already done. At worst the DOW will probably drop another 10% – that’ll match the dot bomb implosion back in the days.[/quote]
It fallacy to compare anything that is going on currently in the stock market to anything else we have seen in the past. Dot.com day drop with due to bad fundamentals when the unicorn companies never turned a profit. Up into this virus panic, all companies were releasing gang buster numbers, unemployment was low. You cannot deny that. I’d like people to show me a pattern that a major health virus was part of a natural economic cycle. Everyone even all the financial analysts are saying we are in unchartered waters. I’d like to show me the last time we shutdown most schools, most businesses, cancelled most public gathering events with the timeframe of “indefinitely” I’d like people who think they could have predicted to show me a time where companies required people to work from home for the timeframe “indefinitely”. You can’t because it never happened in recent times. Nothing even comes close, not even 9/11. Everyone knows that. As soon as this virus is sorted out, as soon as people are no longer fearful of catching some mysterious illness, we’ll move on just like we always have. None of this really matters in the longer term anyway, as has been time an time again.
CoronitaParticipantThere’s 1.4 million people in SD County. a 2% infection rate would mean 28k people infected. Of that, 70% of people infected would need a ventilator or go to the ICU, using a small sample space obtained from patients in China, or roughly 19.6k people in SD. In San Diego County, how many hospital beds do we have total and how many ventilators are available at hospitals? Probably half.
Screw toilet paper. I just ordered a oxygen ventilator, taking a lesson from the hospitals in Italy, before people figure this out. I needed to use my FSA health account anyway.
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CoronitaParticipantWell I’m being asked to send everyone home and work from home until further notice.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=outtamojo]I wonder how the dentists and dental hygienists are doing.[/quote]
Some peoople might already have it and already got over it. They just never showed any severe enough symptoms to call out a need to have it tested. Quite possible for some people, their body reacts the same way as if they got a common cold, and then those symptoms just go away.
CoronitaParticipant[quote=outtamojo][quote=flu]Everyone is eventually going to get this virus. The reports are saying that the virus can remain in an infected person’s body as long as 20-24 days from recovery. I think we should just accept that’s the fact that it’s not preventable and some people are going to die from it, like everything else. If it happens, it happens. Meanwhile, I’m going to enjoy my buy one get one free deals at Ranch 99, lol.[/quote]
The key is for not everyone to get it all at once but to spread it out over time so hospital beds are not overwhelmed.[/quote]
Agreed. That’s why maybe in this case it’s better to have this sooner versus later if eventually we are all going to get it. Especially since the data seems to suggest younger people tend to fair better, provided there is nothing else wrong with that person
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CoronitaParticipantEveryone is eventually going to get this virus. The reports are saying that the virus can remain in an infected person’s body as long as 20-24 days from recovery. I think we should just accept that’s the fact that it’s not preventable and some people are going to die from it, like everything else. If it happens, it happens. Meanwhile, I’m going to enjoy my buy one get one free deals at Ranch 99, lol.
CoronitaParticipantThe thing people are missing is before we didn’t have a president that would pull as many levers as possible to save his presidency. How many prior presidents were as confrontational with the Federal Reserve as this one? And there are a lot of levers that still can be pulled, for better or worse. Take a step back and look at what is important to Donald and this admin. You think they will sit idle and not do anything ? Maybe not right now, because well it’s still a good way from November. So the markets dip, people run scared and we don’t look that good for Q2…. Then pile on all the incentives , pill a bunch of levers at the end of Q2 so that Q3 looks like a recovery from this temporary virus setback (that was a “foreign virus” started by China ) , so this adminstration can take credit for saving the US economy from collapsing due to a “foreign virus” from China…in November. Those words weren’t accidental either. They were explicitly chosen. Wonder why…. One word comes to mind. Navarro…
CoronitaParticipantyou guys are way jumping the gun thinking 2020 a recession will happen. don’t you think Mr. Donald is going to do everything possible to save his 2nd term. What do you think it would take to do that? Get people to spend even if they aren’t credit worthy..And banks at this point need people who they can make more money off of. What better way than to invite the typical american consumer back into the game by giving them easy access to credit?
The other thing is..is this Europe travel ban really about the virus? or is it just a convenient excuse to get something back from the EU, like an attempt to strongarm countries like France and Germany into more favorable trade concessions? After all, why go out of the way to exempt the UK, when they have their own virus problems too if this really was only about the virus. And we know that Donald always appears to have an ax to grind with the EU. It’s a definitive easier to sell to the American public (we need to do this for public health safety reasons) than saying we need to get into a trade war again, now with the EU. Remember during the conference yesterday, Donald initially also included not only people but also goods/cargo from EU….something later.thst he retracted…I don’t call that an accidental slip. It seems more like a warning shot.
CoronitaParticipantTom Hanks and wife infected.
Utah Jazz center infected.
CoronitaParticipanthopefully after tonight the “movement” is dead.
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