Off topic “coronavirus”

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Myriad][quote=FlyerInHi]The health care establishment is worried about the system collapsing under a flood of cases. Hospitals don’t even have testing kits.
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When time time comes, the solution is to not allow anyone over a certain age (like 65) into a hospital.
Either they stay at home or you move them into a separate facility somewhere else. Basically just like Italy and China.[/quote]

It was relief for us to have found a good nursing home. We had always planned on home care, but the sudden debilitating illness changed the plans. You can feel the worry at the hospital. They need beds and want do move patients out. The case manager and the head nurse were calling everyday pushing (in a very caring polite way) to get the patient out. hospices/rehabs are worried too about what their roles will be in a pandemic.

[The-Shoveler]

[quote=flu]Well I’m being asked to send everyone home and work from home until further notice.[/quote]

Same just happen to us.

[FlyerInHi]

Seems pretty crazy that Trump and Pence don’t need coronavirus testing after meeting with an infected Brazilian official.
I would want to be tested if I were them. Don’t they like to say that things are done “out of an abundance of caution.”

My Iranian-American friend said “good!” when we talked about the Iranian leadership being infected. I am sure some people may think the same thing about our own leadership.

[Coronita]

There’s 1.4 million people in SD County. a 2% infection rate would mean 28k people infected. Of that, 70% of people infected would need a ventilator or go to the ICU, using a small sample space obtained from patients in China, or roughly 19.6k people in SD. In San Diego County, how many hospital beds do we have total and how many ventilators are available at hospitals? Probably half.

Screw toilet paper. I just ordered a oxygen ventilator, taking a lesson from the hospitals in Italy, before people figure this out. I needed to use my FSA health account anyway.

[ltsddd]

[quote=flu]There’s 1.4 million people in SD County. a 2% infection rate would mean 28k people infected. Of that, 70% of people infected would need a ventilator or go to the ICU, using a small sample space obtained from patients in China, or roughly 19.6k people in SD. In San Diego County, how many hospital beds do we have total and how many ventilators are available at hospitals? Probably half.

Screw toilet paper. I just ordered a oxygen ventilator, taking a lesson from the hospitals in Italy, before people figure this out. I needed to use my FSA health account anyway.[/quote]

Why not reserve the hospital beds for the elderly? Younger folks, just give them a month’s worth of flu & hiv drugs to take home?

[ltsddd]

Here’s a thought about the stock market. Why not close them all down (all exchanges around the globe) and reopen after the coronavirus is dealt with? On the other hand most of the damage is already done. At worst the DOW will probably drop another 10% – that’ll match the dot bomb implosion back in the days.

[Coronita]

[quote=ltsdd]Here’s a thought about the stock market. Why not close them all down (all exchanges around the globe) and reopen after the coronavirus is dealt with? On the other hand most of the damage is already done. At worst the DOW will probably drop another 10% – that’ll match the dot bomb implosion back in the days.[/quote]

It fallacy to compare anything that is going on currently in the stock market to anything else we have seen in the past. Dot.com day drop with due to bad fundamentals when the unicorn companies never turned a profit. Up into this virus panic, all companies were releasing gang buster numbers, unemployment was low. You cannot deny that. I’d like people to show me a pattern that a major health virus was part of a natural economic cycle. Everyone even all the financial analysts are saying we are in unchartered waters. I’d like to show me the last time we shutdown most schools, most businesses, cancelled most public gathering events with the timeframe of “indefinitely” I’d like people who think they could have predicted to show me a time where companies required people to work from home for the timeframe “indefinitely”. You can’t because it never happened in recent times. Nothing even comes close, not even 9/11. Everyone knows that. As soon as this virus is sorted out, as soon as people are no longer fearful of catching some mysterious illness, we’ll move on just like we always have. None of this really matters in the longer term anyway, as has been time an time again.

[Coronita]

[quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]There’s 1.4 million people in SD County. a 2% infection rate would mean 28k people infected. Of that, 70% of people infected would need a ventilator or go to the ICU, using a small sample space obtained from patients in China, or roughly 19.6k people in SD. In San Diego County, how many hospital beds do we have total and how many ventilators are available at hospitals? Probably half.

Screw toilet paper. I just ordered a oxygen ventilator, taking a lesson from the hospitals in Italy, before people figure this out. I needed to use my FSA health account anyway.[/quote]

Why not reserve the hospital beds for the elderly? Younger folks, just give them a month’s worth of flu & hiv drugs to take home?[/quote]

This thing isn’t just hitting the elderly. It depends as well. You could have complications depending on your own body or immune system, etc. Hopefully, medical professionals won’t be needing to make decisions on whether they should give the ventilator to your 80+year old grandma that can’t breath versus some 24year old person that for some reason also can’t breath, because they don’t have enough ventilators. I believe Italy hospitals are doing just that right now. I’m fearful if it came to that, those elderly won’t get a ventilator.

BYOV: bring your own ventilator. Even if you were allocated one, perhaps you end up saving someone else’s life that might not have gotten one.

[The-Shoveler]

From what I understand in Italy, if you are over 60 they (the hospitals) just turn you away.

You don’t get looked at even, no staff no room.

[Coronita]

[quote=The-Shoveler]From what I understand in Italy, if you are over 60 they (the hospitals) just turn you away.

You don’t get looked at even, no staff no room.[/quote]

Sad, just sad.

[Coronita]

Things just get weirder and weirder. New office email…. I’m told we all go on PTO until the end of the month, PTO is extra that doesn’t count towards accrued vacation. Be available in case a customer calls during this period, but they too are shutdown until end of this month, so unlikely.

Another first time for something like this. Ok. Still not use to it. IT’s like a ghost town… Which is unheard of. It’s like walking into a casino and it being completely empty.

Maybe I’ll pick up where I left off, restoring one of my cars.

[Coronita]

Whoa. So it’s pretty ahole-ish for universities to be forcing students out of their dorms on short notice.

First I heard Pepperdine do this, now it seems like USD is doing this.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/education/story/2020-03-12/university-of-san-diego-tells-students-they-must-move-out-of-dorms-due-to-coronavirus

[ltsddd]

[quote=flu]Whoa. So it’s pretty ahole-ish for universities to be forcing students out of their dorms on short notice.

First I heard Pepperdine do this, now it seems like USD is doing this.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/education/story/2020-03-12/university-of-san-diego-tells-students-they-must-move-out-of-dorms-due-to-coronavirus%5B/quote%5D

Harvard gave theirs 5 days to move out.

….So, interesting how many of us were ridiculing China’s response, or lack thereof, to the coronavirus. But here we are almost two months later the wealthiest, most powerful nation in the entire world doesn’t seem to have a fvcking clue on how to respond to the crisis. We were probably right to suspect China under-reporting their numbers, but that implied they at least knew how many of were infected. But the U.S. is even worse since we don’t know how many people are infected. Pathetic how little testing has been administered:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.html

https://www.statista.com/chart/21108/covid-19-tests-performed-per-million-of-the-population/

[Coronita]

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[Coronita]

If history is going to be a guide for how the Coronavirus can play out , skip the normal social and cyclical economic models that people were using to predict a recession. This pandemic event is nothing like we’ve seen in modern times.

A closer model would be the one time pandemic event in 1918 also known as the Spanish Flu. That seems to be a more appropriate model of how things can play out. We haven’t had any other major pandemic event since then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

The majority of the death from that was surprise surprise from a cytokine storm.

The killer wasn’t the first wave of that flu. The killer was the second wave that occurred in August that was a deadlier mutation of the first that affected those that weren’t infected by the first wave had not built immunity to the second mutated flu. Which begs the question , if this Coronavirus is bad now, what’s a mutated version going to look like.

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