Wikileaks to out a major US Bank

[Anonymous]

The US government can shut down US based websites.

The rest of the world…not so easy.

Wikileaks is not one guy. It’s an organization that is pretty sophisticated with technology. No doubt they anticipated denial of service attacks and other such threats and prepared for them long ago.

They’re probably at least as good with tech as any US intelligence agency.

This is not really that fantastic a claim. Government doesn’t attract our best and brightest anymore, especially when it comes to to computer technology.

The public believes the military/government has an extraordinary technology reach because of Hollywood depictions – shows like “24.” The reality is much less impressive.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=pri_dk]

They’re probably at least as good with tech as any US intelligence agency.

This is not really that fantastic a claim. Government doesn’t attract our best and brightest anymore, especially when it comes to to computer technology.

The public believes the military/government has an extraordinary technology reach because of Hollywood depictions – shows like “24.” The reality is much less impressive.[/quote]

Pri: Sorry, gotta disagree with you on this one, and for no other reason than the NSA. Their capabilities are tremendous, especially in terms of data gathering and data mining.

That specifically targeted bug that hit the Iranian nuke facility either came from the Israelis, or the NSA. I know two ex-NSA guys that are on the private side now, and both are post-doc dudes from Carnegie-Mellon. The NSA does actually attract the best and brightest and from places like MIT, Carnegie and Stanford.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=pri_dk]

They’re probably at least as good with tech as any US intelligence agency.

This is not really that fantastic a claim. Government doesn’t attract our best and brightest anymore, especially when it comes to to computer technology.

The public believes the military/government has an extraordinary technology reach because of Hollywood depictions – shows like “24.” The reality is much less impressive.[/quote]

Pri: Sorry, gotta disagree with you on this one, and for no other reason than the NSA. Their capabilities are tremendous, especially in terms of data gathering and data mining.

That specifically targeted bug that hit the Iranian nuke facility either came from the Israelis, or the NSA. I know two ex-NSA guys that are on the private side now, and both are post-doc dudes from Carnegie-Mellon. The NSA does actually attract the best and brightest and from places like MIT, Carnegie and Stanford.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=pri_dk]

They’re probably at least as good with tech as any US intelligence agency.

This is not really that fantastic a claim. Government doesn’t attract our best and brightest anymore, especially when it comes to to computer technology.

The public believes the military/government has an extraordinary technology reach because of Hollywood depictions – shows like “24.” The reality is much less impressive.[/quote]

Pri: Sorry, gotta disagree with you on this one, and for no other reason than the NSA. Their capabilities are tremendous, especially in terms of data gathering and data mining.

That specifically targeted bug that hit the Iranian nuke facility either came from the Israelis, or the NSA. I know two ex-NSA guys that are on the private side now, and both are post-doc dudes from Carnegie-Mellon. The NSA does actually attract the best and brightest and from places like MIT, Carnegie and Stanford.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=pri_dk]

They’re probably at least as good with tech as any US intelligence agency.

This is not really that fantastic a claim. Government doesn’t attract our best and brightest anymore, especially when it comes to to computer technology.

The public believes the military/government has an extraordinary technology reach because of Hollywood depictions – shows like “24.” The reality is much less impressive.[/quote]

Pri: Sorry, gotta disagree with you on this one, and for no other reason than the NSA. Their capabilities are tremendous, especially in terms of data gathering and data mining.

That specifically targeted bug that hit the Iranian nuke facility either came from the Israelis, or the NSA. I know two ex-NSA guys that are on the private side now, and both are post-doc dudes from Carnegie-Mellon. The NSA does actually attract the best and brightest and from places like MIT, Carnegie and Stanford.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=pri_dk]

They’re probably at least as good with tech as any US intelligence agency.

This is not really that fantastic a claim. Government doesn’t attract our best and brightest anymore, especially when it comes to to computer technology.

The public believes the military/government has an extraordinary technology reach because of Hollywood depictions – shows like “24.” The reality is much less impressive.[/quote]

Pri: Sorry, gotta disagree with you on this one, and for no other reason than the NSA. Their capabilities are tremendous, especially in terms of data gathering and data mining.

That specifically targeted bug that hit the Iranian nuke facility either came from the Israelis, or the NSA. I know two ex-NSA guys that are on the private side now, and both are post-doc dudes from Carnegie-Mellon. The NSA does actually attract the best and brightest and from places like MIT, Carnegie and Stanford.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The NSA does actually attract the best and brightest and from places like MIT, Carnegie and Stanford.[/quote]

Allan, I know something about at least one of those schools, so I’ll take you post as a compliment 😉

In certain focused areas, such as cryptography and types of signal processing, government and the NSA have the lead over the civilization sector.

Back in the 1970s – when nobody but governments cared about cryptography – the NSA had a huge lead over anybody else. Now that everyone uses cryptography in some form, civilian research has closed the gap significantly. It’s very likely that your PC has cryptographic algorithms that could not be cracked by the NSA without tremendous effort. But despite new applications for these technologies, the job market for post-docs with these specializations is still somewhat limited. So it’s not surprising that many of the math PhDs end up at the NSA.

When it comes to more practical technology, government work just doesn’t have the draw. The hot-shot software developer graduating with a masters from one of the schools you mention above would much rather work for Google than the NSA.

I agree that the NSA has tremendous capability to intercept and capture communications (and we know they almost certainly do so more than they should).

So they have a lot of data and some very smart people that can crunch it, decode, or otherwise make sense of any particular intercept.

But these capabilities don’t really have much to do with Wikileaks.

Stopping Wikileaks is not a number-crunching problem. It’s a problem that involves a combination of network technology skills, access to infrastructure, political influence, and a general ability to coordinate and execute quickly. In these, areas, particularly the latter, the government agencies just don’t measure up.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The NSA does actually attract the best and brightest and from places like MIT, Carnegie and Stanford.[/quote]

Allan, I know something about at least one of those schools, so I’ll take you post as a compliment 😉

In certain focused areas, such as cryptography and types of signal processing, government and the NSA have the lead over the civilization sector.

Back in the 1970s – when nobody but governments cared about cryptography – the NSA had a huge lead over anybody else. Now that everyone uses cryptography in some form, civilian research has closed the gap significantly. It’s very likely that your PC has cryptographic algorithms that could not be cracked by the NSA without tremendous effort. But despite new applications for these technologies, the job market for post-docs with these specializations is still somewhat limited. So it’s not surprising that many of the math PhDs end up at the NSA.

When it comes to more practical technology, government work just doesn’t have the draw. The hot-shot software developer graduating with a masters from one of the schools you mention above would much rather work for Google than the NSA.

I agree that the NSA has tremendous capability to intercept and capture communications (and we know they almost certainly do so more than they should).

So they have a lot of data and some very smart people that can crunch it, decode, or otherwise make sense of any particular intercept.

But these capabilities don’t really have much to do with Wikileaks.

Stopping Wikileaks is not a number-crunching problem. It’s a problem that involves a combination of network technology skills, access to infrastructure, political influence, and a general ability to coordinate and execute quickly. In these, areas, particularly the latter, the government agencies just don’t measure up.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The NSA does actually attract the best and brightest and from places like MIT, Carnegie and Stanford.[/quote]

Allan, I know something about at least one of those schools, so I’ll take you post as a compliment 😉

In certain focused areas, such as cryptography and types of signal processing, government and the NSA have the lead over the civilization sector.

Back in the 1970s – when nobody but governments cared about cryptography – the NSA had a huge lead over anybody else. Now that everyone uses cryptography in some form, civilian research has closed the gap significantly. It’s very likely that your PC has cryptographic algorithms that could not be cracked by the NSA without tremendous effort. But despite new applications for these technologies, the job market for post-docs with these specializations is still somewhat limited. So it’s not surprising that many of the math PhDs end up at the NSA.

When it comes to more practical technology, government work just doesn’t have the draw. The hot-shot software developer graduating with a masters from one of the schools you mention above would much rather work for Google than the NSA.

I agree that the NSA has tremendous capability to intercept and capture communications (and we know they almost certainly do so more than they should).

So they have a lot of data and some very smart people that can crunch it, decode, or otherwise make sense of any particular intercept.

But these capabilities don’t really have much to do with Wikileaks.

Stopping Wikileaks is not a number-crunching problem. It’s a problem that involves a combination of network technology skills, access to infrastructure, political influence, and a general ability to coordinate and execute quickly. In these, areas, particularly the latter, the government agencies just don’t measure up.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The NSA does actually attract the best and brightest and from places like MIT, Carnegie and Stanford.[/quote]

Allan, I know something about at least one of those schools, so I’ll take you post as a compliment 😉

In certain focused areas, such as cryptography and types of signal processing, government and the NSA have the lead over the civilization sector.

Back in the 1970s – when nobody but governments cared about cryptography – the NSA had a huge lead over anybody else. Now that everyone uses cryptography in some form, civilian research has closed the gap significantly. It’s very likely that your PC has cryptographic algorithms that could not be cracked by the NSA without tremendous effort. But despite new applications for these technologies, the job market for post-docs with these specializations is still somewhat limited. So it’s not surprising that many of the math PhDs end up at the NSA.

When it comes to more practical technology, government work just doesn’t have the draw. The hot-shot software developer graduating with a masters from one of the schools you mention above would much rather work for Google than the NSA.

I agree that the NSA has tremendous capability to intercept and capture communications (and we know they almost certainly do so more than they should).

So they have a lot of data and some very smart people that can crunch it, decode, or otherwise make sense of any particular intercept.

But these capabilities don’t really have much to do with Wikileaks.

Stopping Wikileaks is not a number-crunching problem. It’s a problem that involves a combination of network technology skills, access to infrastructure, political influence, and a general ability to coordinate and execute quickly. In these, areas, particularly the latter, the government agencies just don’t measure up.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]The NSA does actually attract the best and brightest and from places like MIT, Carnegie and Stanford.[/quote]

Allan, I know something about at least one of those schools, so I’ll take you post as a compliment 😉

In certain focused areas, such as cryptography and types of signal processing, government and the NSA have the lead over the civilization sector.

Back in the 1970s – when nobody but governments cared about cryptography – the NSA had a huge lead over anybody else. Now that everyone uses cryptography in some form, civilian research has closed the gap significantly. It’s very likely that your PC has cryptographic algorithms that could not be cracked by the NSA without tremendous effort. But despite new applications for these technologies, the job market for post-docs with these specializations is still somewhat limited. So it’s not surprising that many of the math PhDs end up at the NSA.

When it comes to more practical technology, government work just doesn’t have the draw. The hot-shot software developer graduating with a masters from one of the schools you mention above would much rather work for Google than the NSA.

I agree that the NSA has tremendous capability to intercept and capture communications (and we know they almost certainly do so more than they should).

So they have a lot of data and some very smart people that can crunch it, decode, or otherwise make sense of any particular intercept.

But these capabilities don’t really have much to do with Wikileaks.

Stopping Wikileaks is not a number-crunching problem. It’s a problem that involves a combination of network technology skills, access to infrastructure, political influence, and a general ability to coordinate and execute quickly. In these, areas, particularly the latter, the government agencies just don’t measure up.

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