Wikileaks to out a major US Bank

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JUDY WOODRUFF:

“How intriguing Mr. Brzezinski”(rolls eyes)

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]
Allan, if you mention this to an Israeli they will immediately be offended and ask if you have proof. Also, a second Iranian nuclear scientist was just assassinated a few days ago. For the past few months I’ve been tracking Mid East skullduggery at a few different sites. It’s better than a Tom Clancy novel;)

Actually, the number one super spies with some of the best technology on the planet are Israeli tech companies(data mining, telecom surveillance, etc.). Well, that is at least how they market themselves. Coincidentally, Israel has been caught spying on the US several times in the last few years. Actually, there is a case in court right now. Also, many times going back to the 50s, including some very damaging cases(Jonathan Pollard is currently serving a life sentence for stealing a literal truck load of nuclear secrets that Israel than traded to the Soviets for them to change their immigration policies).

Which, is who I think is suspect number one behind wikileaks for now. In 2005 the FBI noted, for example, that Israel maintains “an active program to gather proprietary information within the United States.” A key Israeli method, said the FBI report, is computer intrusion. So they have the capability and past history of stealing sensitive information.

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Arraya: Good post. Having worked with the State of Israel for quite a while now, I know that the government actively supports their tech and engineering base, and that quite a few of those same companies count a significantly large percentage of former IDF officers and Mossad personnel amongst their senior management.

Fact of the matter is, Israels spies on EVERYBODY. They trust no one, and for pretty good reason, when you get right down to it. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve heard the expression “Never Again” from Israeli soldiers, businessmen, politicians, etc.

If you’ve ever spent any time in places like Tel Aviv or Haifa, you know all about the constant stress and tension that comes with being out and about in cafes, or theaters, or stores. I have to believe that feeling has a major effect on not only how they view the world, but how they interact with it as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]
Allan, if you mention this to an Israeli they will immediately be offended and ask if you have proof. Also, a second Iranian nuclear scientist was just assassinated a few days ago. For the past few months I’ve been tracking Mid East skullduggery at a few different sites. It’s better than a Tom Clancy novel;)

Actually, the number one super spies with some of the best technology on the planet are Israeli tech companies(data mining, telecom surveillance, etc.). Well, that is at least how they market themselves. Coincidentally, Israel has been caught spying on the US several times in the last few years. Actually, there is a case in court right now. Also, many times going back to the 50s, including some very damaging cases(Jonathan Pollard is currently serving a life sentence for stealing a literal truck load of nuclear secrets that Israel than traded to the Soviets for them to change their immigration policies).

Which, is who I think is suspect number one behind wikileaks for now. In 2005 the FBI noted, for example, that Israel maintains “an active program to gather proprietary information within the United States.” A key Israeli method, said the FBI report, is computer intrusion. So they have the capability and past history of stealing sensitive information.

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Arraya: Good post. Having worked with the State of Israel for quite a while now, I know that the government actively supports their tech and engineering base, and that quite a few of those same companies count a significantly large percentage of former IDF officers and Mossad personnel amongst their senior management.

Fact of the matter is, Israels spies on EVERYBODY. They trust no one, and for pretty good reason, when you get right down to it. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve heard the expression “Never Again” from Israeli soldiers, businessmen, politicians, etc.

If you’ve ever spent any time in places like Tel Aviv or Haifa, you know all about the constant stress and tension that comes with being out and about in cafes, or theaters, or stores. I have to believe that feeling has a major effect on not only how they view the world, but how they interact with it as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]
Allan, if you mention this to an Israeli they will immediately be offended and ask if you have proof. Also, a second Iranian nuclear scientist was just assassinated a few days ago. For the past few months I’ve been tracking Mid East skullduggery at a few different sites. It’s better than a Tom Clancy novel;)

Actually, the number one super spies with some of the best technology on the planet are Israeli tech companies(data mining, telecom surveillance, etc.). Well, that is at least how they market themselves. Coincidentally, Israel has been caught spying on the US several times in the last few years. Actually, there is a case in court right now. Also, many times going back to the 50s, including some very damaging cases(Jonathan Pollard is currently serving a life sentence for stealing a literal truck load of nuclear secrets that Israel than traded to the Soviets for them to change their immigration policies).

Which, is who I think is suspect number one behind wikileaks for now. In 2005 the FBI noted, for example, that Israel maintains “an active program to gather proprietary information within the United States.” A key Israeli method, said the FBI report, is computer intrusion. So they have the capability and past history of stealing sensitive information.

[/quote]

Arraya: Good post. Having worked with the State of Israel for quite a while now, I know that the government actively supports their tech and engineering base, and that quite a few of those same companies count a significantly large percentage of former IDF officers and Mossad personnel amongst their senior management.

Fact of the matter is, Israels spies on EVERYBODY. They trust no one, and for pretty good reason, when you get right down to it. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve heard the expression “Never Again” from Israeli soldiers, businessmen, politicians, etc.

If you’ve ever spent any time in places like Tel Aviv or Haifa, you know all about the constant stress and tension that comes with being out and about in cafes, or theaters, or stores. I have to believe that feeling has a major effect on not only how they view the world, but how they interact with it as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]
Allan, if you mention this to an Israeli they will immediately be offended and ask if you have proof. Also, a second Iranian nuclear scientist was just assassinated a few days ago. For the past few months I’ve been tracking Mid East skullduggery at a few different sites. It’s better than a Tom Clancy novel;)

Actually, the number one super spies with some of the best technology on the planet are Israeli tech companies(data mining, telecom surveillance, etc.). Well, that is at least how they market themselves. Coincidentally, Israel has been caught spying on the US several times in the last few years. Actually, there is a case in court right now. Also, many times going back to the 50s, including some very damaging cases(Jonathan Pollard is currently serving a life sentence for stealing a literal truck load of nuclear secrets that Israel than traded to the Soviets for them to change their immigration policies).

Which, is who I think is suspect number one behind wikileaks for now. In 2005 the FBI noted, for example, that Israel maintains “an active program to gather proprietary information within the United States.” A key Israeli method, said the FBI report, is computer intrusion. So they have the capability and past history of stealing sensitive information.

[/quote]

Arraya: Good post. Having worked with the State of Israel for quite a while now, I know that the government actively supports their tech and engineering base, and that quite a few of those same companies count a significantly large percentage of former IDF officers and Mossad personnel amongst their senior management.

Fact of the matter is, Israels spies on EVERYBODY. They trust no one, and for pretty good reason, when you get right down to it. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve heard the expression “Never Again” from Israeli soldiers, businessmen, politicians, etc.

If you’ve ever spent any time in places like Tel Aviv or Haifa, you know all about the constant stress and tension that comes with being out and about in cafes, or theaters, or stores. I have to believe that feeling has a major effect on not only how they view the world, but how they interact with it as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]
Allan, if you mention this to an Israeli they will immediately be offended and ask if you have proof. Also, a second Iranian nuclear scientist was just assassinated a few days ago. For the past few months I’ve been tracking Mid East skullduggery at a few different sites. It’s better than a Tom Clancy novel;)

Actually, the number one super spies with some of the best technology on the planet are Israeli tech companies(data mining, telecom surveillance, etc.). Well, that is at least how they market themselves. Coincidentally, Israel has been caught spying on the US several times in the last few years. Actually, there is a case in court right now. Also, many times going back to the 50s, including some very damaging cases(Jonathan Pollard is currently serving a life sentence for stealing a literal truck load of nuclear secrets that Israel than traded to the Soviets for them to change their immigration policies).

Which, is who I think is suspect number one behind wikileaks for now. In 2005 the FBI noted, for example, that Israel maintains “an active program to gather proprietary information within the United States.” A key Israeli method, said the FBI report, is computer intrusion. So they have the capability and past history of stealing sensitive information.

[/quote]

Arraya: Good post. Having worked with the State of Israel for quite a while now, I know that the government actively supports their tech and engineering base, and that quite a few of those same companies count a significantly large percentage of former IDF officers and Mossad personnel amongst their senior management.

Fact of the matter is, Israels spies on EVERYBODY. They trust no one, and for pretty good reason, when you get right down to it. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve heard the expression “Never Again” from Israeli soldiers, businessmen, politicians, etc.

If you’ve ever spent any time in places like Tel Aviv or Haifa, you know all about the constant stress and tension that comes with being out and about in cafes, or theaters, or stores. I have to believe that feeling has a major effect on not only how they view the world, but how they interact with it as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: No disagreement with your post, save to say that my response was more directed to your “best and brightest” assertion. While Google and others in the tech sector are obviously a strong draw, the NSA still has major stroke in those areas like cryptography, SIGINT/ELINT, etc.

Agreed that the Wikileaks situation doesn’t fit in there per se, but that the US government still has tremendous resources on the tech side.

You’d probably also be interested to see how far law enforcement has come in this sector as well. NYPD’s Shield program and their Intelligence unit is one of the best in the world. Most people don’t realize this, but NYPD now maintains offices and personnel throughout the world, and actively pursues intelligence gathering outside the US.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: No disagreement with your post, save to say that my response was more directed to your “best and brightest” assertion. While Google and others in the tech sector are obviously a strong draw, the NSA still has major stroke in those areas like cryptography, SIGINT/ELINT, etc.

Agreed that the Wikileaks situation doesn’t fit in there per se, but that the US government still has tremendous resources on the tech side.

You’d probably also be interested to see how far law enforcement has come in this sector as well. NYPD’s Shield program and their Intelligence unit is one of the best in the world. Most people don’t realize this, but NYPD now maintains offices and personnel throughout the world, and actively pursues intelligence gathering outside the US.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: No disagreement with your post, save to say that my response was more directed to your “best and brightest” assertion. While Google and others in the tech sector are obviously a strong draw, the NSA still has major stroke in those areas like cryptography, SIGINT/ELINT, etc.

Agreed that the Wikileaks situation doesn’t fit in there per se, but that the US government still has tremendous resources on the tech side.

You’d probably also be interested to see how far law enforcement has come in this sector as well. NYPD’s Shield program and their Intelligence unit is one of the best in the world. Most people don’t realize this, but NYPD now maintains offices and personnel throughout the world, and actively pursues intelligence gathering outside the US.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: No disagreement with your post, save to say that my response was more directed to your “best and brightest” assertion. While Google and others in the tech sector are obviously a strong draw, the NSA still has major stroke in those areas like cryptography, SIGINT/ELINT, etc.

Agreed that the Wikileaks situation doesn’t fit in there per se, but that the US government still has tremendous resources on the tech side.

You’d probably also be interested to see how far law enforcement has come in this sector as well. NYPD’s Shield program and their Intelligence unit is one of the best in the world. Most people don’t realize this, but NYPD now maintains offices and personnel throughout the world, and actively pursues intelligence gathering outside the US.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Pri: No disagreement with your post, save to say that my response was more directed to your “best and brightest” assertion. While Google and others in the tech sector are obviously a strong draw, the NSA still has major stroke in those areas like cryptography, SIGINT/ELINT, etc.

Agreed that the Wikileaks situation doesn’t fit in there per se, but that the US government still has tremendous resources on the tech side.

You’d probably also be interested to see how far law enforcement has come in this sector as well. NYPD’s Shield program and their Intelligence unit is one of the best in the world. Most people don’t realize this, but NYPD now maintains offices and personnel throughout the world, and actively pursues intelligence gathering outside the US.

[Arraya]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-zogby/israel-using-wikileaks-to_b_792009.html

From the day the first batch of WikiLeaks appeared in the international press, the Israelis were crowing “this is good for us”. Seizing on documents demonstrating that some Arab leaders bear ill-will toward Iran, the Israeli spin machine went into action. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu boasted that “Our region has been hostage to a narrative that is the result of 60 years of propaganda, which paints Israel as the greatest threat”, claiming that Iran had, in fact, eclipsed the Palestinian issue as the number one concern of the Arab World. Another prominent Israeli official gloated that “Iran was now ten times more important than Palestine” and that it was now time to shelve the “peace effort” and focus attention on Iran.

My first reaction was “how silly, yet predictable”. My second was “how dangerous”.

[Arraya]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-zogby/israel-using-wikileaks-to_b_792009.html

From the day the first batch of WikiLeaks appeared in the international press, the Israelis were crowing “this is good for us”. Seizing on documents demonstrating that some Arab leaders bear ill-will toward Iran, the Israeli spin machine went into action. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu boasted that “Our region has been hostage to a narrative that is the result of 60 years of propaganda, which paints Israel as the greatest threat”, claiming that Iran had, in fact, eclipsed the Palestinian issue as the number one concern of the Arab World. Another prominent Israeli official gloated that “Iran was now ten times more important than Palestine” and that it was now time to shelve the “peace effort” and focus attention on Iran.

My first reaction was “how silly, yet predictable”. My second was “how dangerous”.

[Arraya]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-zogby/israel-using-wikileaks-to_b_792009.html

From the day the first batch of WikiLeaks appeared in the international press, the Israelis were crowing “this is good for us”. Seizing on documents demonstrating that some Arab leaders bear ill-will toward Iran, the Israeli spin machine went into action. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu boasted that “Our region has been hostage to a narrative that is the result of 60 years of propaganda, which paints Israel as the greatest threat”, claiming that Iran had, in fact, eclipsed the Palestinian issue as the number one concern of the Arab World. Another prominent Israeli official gloated that “Iran was now ten times more important than Palestine” and that it was now time to shelve the “peace effort” and focus attention on Iran.

My first reaction was “how silly, yet predictable”. My second was “how dangerous”.

[Arraya]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-zogby/israel-using-wikileaks-to_b_792009.html

From the day the first batch of WikiLeaks appeared in the international press, the Israelis were crowing “this is good for us”. Seizing on documents demonstrating that some Arab leaders bear ill-will toward Iran, the Israeli spin machine went into action. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu boasted that “Our region has been hostage to a narrative that is the result of 60 years of propaganda, which paints Israel as the greatest threat”, claiming that Iran had, in fact, eclipsed the Palestinian issue as the number one concern of the Arab World. Another prominent Israeli official gloated that “Iran was now ten times more important than Palestine” and that it was now time to shelve the “peace effort” and focus attention on Iran.

My first reaction was “how silly, yet predictable”. My second was “how dangerous”.

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