The future of Temecula & Murieta ?

[procrastinator]

it’s mixed use or ruins swallowed by the desert.
temeculaguy,
you make a point on how zoning laws and lack of public transport makes unwalkable neighborhoods safe from going ghetto. It seems to have had some truth to it when you describe the past few decades. It a poor guide for making predictions. You don’t seem to grasp the implication of the coming $10/gallon gasoline. It will be the middle class who will not be able to afford routine driving. The end of commuting alone in their cars. The only neighborhoods that survive will be those with housing and jobs within walking distance of each other, and functioning dense public transport coverage used by the entire population, not just the poor. The neighborhoods that fail to transform themselves in this manner will not turn ghetto, that’s ridiculous, instead they will turn into ghost towns for future archeologists to study.

[paramount]

I have seen a transformation in my ‘hood’ in Temecula since I first moved in a number of years ago – I am speaking of Paloma del Sol for those familiar with the area.

At this very moment, 3 doors up from mine, we now have a dorm house in our community.

Probably six cars in front of the house, one literally up on blocks, oil all over the street.

It could be the beginning of the end for our community as I used to know it.

[paramount]

I have seen a transformation in my ‘hood’ in Temecula since I first moved in a number of years ago – I am speaking of Paloma del Sol for those familiar with the area.

At this very moment, 3 doors up from mine, we now have a dorm house in our community.

Probably six cars in front of the house, one literally up on blocks, oil all over the street.

It could be the beginning of the end for our community as I used to know it.

[paramount]

I have seen a transformation in my ‘hood’ in Temecula since I first moved in a number of years ago – I am speaking of Paloma del Sol for those familiar with the area.

At this very moment, 3 doors up from mine, we now have a dorm house in our community.

Probably six cars in front of the house, one literally up on blocks, oil all over the street.

It could be the beginning of the end for our community as I used to know it.

[paramount]

I have seen a transformation in my ‘hood’ in Temecula since I first moved in a number of years ago – I am speaking of Paloma del Sol for those familiar with the area.

At this very moment, 3 doors up from mine, we now have a dorm house in our community.

Probably six cars in front of the house, one literally up on blocks, oil all over the street.

It could be the beginning of the end for our community as I used to know it.

[paramount]

I have seen a transformation in my ‘hood’ in Temecula since I first moved in a number of years ago – I am speaking of Paloma del Sol for those familiar with the area.

At this very moment, 3 doors up from mine, we now have a dorm house in our community.

Probably six cars in front of the house, one literally up on blocks, oil all over the street.

It could be the beginning of the end for our community as I used to know it.

[bsrsharma]

Stranded in Suburbia

Paul Krugman has a couple of columns on the relationship between cost of transportation and its impact on urban growth and also international trade.

I have seen the future, and it works.
…..
If Europe’s example is any guide, here are the two secrets of coping with expensive oil: own fuel-efficient cars, and don’t drive them too much.

………
Any serious reduction in American driving will require more than this — it will mean changing how and where many of us live.

To see what I’m talking about, consider where I am at the moment: in a pleasant, middle-class neighborhood consisting mainly of four- or five-story apartment buildings, with easy access to public transit and plenty of local shopping.

It’s the kind of neighborhood in which people don’t have to drive a lot, but it’s also a kind of neighborhood that barely exists in America, even in big metropolitan areas. Greater Atlanta has roughly the same population as Greater Berlin — but Berlin is a city of trains, buses and bikes, while Atlanta is a city of cars, cars and cars.

And in the face of rising oil prices, which have left many Americans stranded in suburbia — utterly dependent on their cars, yet having a hard time affording gas — it’s starting to look as if Berlin had the better idea.

Changing the geography of American metropolitan areas will be hard. For one thing, houses last a lot longer than cars. Long after today’s S.U.V.’s have become antique collectors’ items, millions of people will still be living in subdivisions built when gas was $1.50 or less a gallon.

Infrastructure is another problem. Public transit, in particular, faces a chicken-and-egg problem: it’s hard to justify transit systems unless there’s sufficient population density, yet it’s hard to persuade people to live in denser neighborhoods unless they come with the advantage of transit access.

And there are, as always in America, the issues of race and class. Despite the gentrification that has taken place in some inner cities, and the plunge in national crime rates to levels not seen in decades, it will be hard to shake the longstanding American association of higher-density living with poverty and personal danger.

Still, if we’re heading for a prolonged era of scarce, expensive oil, Americans will face increasingly strong incentives to start living like Europeans — maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of our lives.

See also

The world gets bigger

[bsrsharma]

Stranded in Suburbia

Paul Krugman has a couple of columns on the relationship between cost of transportation and its impact on urban growth and also international trade.

I have seen the future, and it works.
…..
If Europe’s example is any guide, here are the two secrets of coping with expensive oil: own fuel-efficient cars, and don’t drive them too much.

………
Any serious reduction in American driving will require more than this — it will mean changing how and where many of us live.

To see what I’m talking about, consider where I am at the moment: in a pleasant, middle-class neighborhood consisting mainly of four- or five-story apartment buildings, with easy access to public transit and plenty of local shopping.

It’s the kind of neighborhood in which people don’t have to drive a lot, but it’s also a kind of neighborhood that barely exists in America, even in big metropolitan areas. Greater Atlanta has roughly the same population as Greater Berlin — but Berlin is a city of trains, buses and bikes, while Atlanta is a city of cars, cars and cars.

And in the face of rising oil prices, which have left many Americans stranded in suburbia — utterly dependent on their cars, yet having a hard time affording gas — it’s starting to look as if Berlin had the better idea.

Changing the geography of American metropolitan areas will be hard. For one thing, houses last a lot longer than cars. Long after today’s S.U.V.’s have become antique collectors’ items, millions of people will still be living in subdivisions built when gas was $1.50 or less a gallon.

Infrastructure is another problem. Public transit, in particular, faces a chicken-and-egg problem: it’s hard to justify transit systems unless there’s sufficient population density, yet it’s hard to persuade people to live in denser neighborhoods unless they come with the advantage of transit access.

And there are, as always in America, the issues of race and class. Despite the gentrification that has taken place in some inner cities, and the plunge in national crime rates to levels not seen in decades, it will be hard to shake the longstanding American association of higher-density living with poverty and personal danger.

Still, if we’re heading for a prolonged era of scarce, expensive oil, Americans will face increasingly strong incentives to start living like Europeans — maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of our lives.

See also

The world gets bigger

[bsrsharma]

Stranded in Suburbia

Paul Krugman has a couple of columns on the relationship between cost of transportation and its impact on urban growth and also international trade.

I have seen the future, and it works.
…..
If Europe’s example is any guide, here are the two secrets of coping with expensive oil: own fuel-efficient cars, and don’t drive them too much.

………
Any serious reduction in American driving will require more than this — it will mean changing how and where many of us live.

To see what I’m talking about, consider where I am at the moment: in a pleasant, middle-class neighborhood consisting mainly of four- or five-story apartment buildings, with easy access to public transit and plenty of local shopping.

It’s the kind of neighborhood in which people don’t have to drive a lot, but it’s also a kind of neighborhood that barely exists in America, even in big metropolitan areas. Greater Atlanta has roughly the same population as Greater Berlin — but Berlin is a city of trains, buses and bikes, while Atlanta is a city of cars, cars and cars.

And in the face of rising oil prices, which have left many Americans stranded in suburbia — utterly dependent on their cars, yet having a hard time affording gas — it’s starting to look as if Berlin had the better idea.

Changing the geography of American metropolitan areas will be hard. For one thing, houses last a lot longer than cars. Long after today’s S.U.V.’s have become antique collectors’ items, millions of people will still be living in subdivisions built when gas was $1.50 or less a gallon.

Infrastructure is another problem. Public transit, in particular, faces a chicken-and-egg problem: it’s hard to justify transit systems unless there’s sufficient population density, yet it’s hard to persuade people to live in denser neighborhoods unless they come with the advantage of transit access.

And there are, as always in America, the issues of race and class. Despite the gentrification that has taken place in some inner cities, and the plunge in national crime rates to levels not seen in decades, it will be hard to shake the longstanding American association of higher-density living with poverty and personal danger.

Still, if we’re heading for a prolonged era of scarce, expensive oil, Americans will face increasingly strong incentives to start living like Europeans — maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of our lives.

See also

The world gets bigger

[bsrsharma]

Stranded in Suburbia

Paul Krugman has a couple of columns on the relationship between cost of transportation and its impact on urban growth and also international trade.

I have seen the future, and it works.
…..
If Europe’s example is any guide, here are the two secrets of coping with expensive oil: own fuel-efficient cars, and don’t drive them too much.

………
Any serious reduction in American driving will require more than this — it will mean changing how and where many of us live.

To see what I’m talking about, consider where I am at the moment: in a pleasant, middle-class neighborhood consisting mainly of four- or five-story apartment buildings, with easy access to public transit and plenty of local shopping.

It’s the kind of neighborhood in which people don’t have to drive a lot, but it’s also a kind of neighborhood that barely exists in America, even in big metropolitan areas. Greater Atlanta has roughly the same population as Greater Berlin — but Berlin is a city of trains, buses and bikes, while Atlanta is a city of cars, cars and cars.

And in the face of rising oil prices, which have left many Americans stranded in suburbia — utterly dependent on their cars, yet having a hard time affording gas — it’s starting to look as if Berlin had the better idea.

Changing the geography of American metropolitan areas will be hard. For one thing, houses last a lot longer than cars. Long after today’s S.U.V.’s have become antique collectors’ items, millions of people will still be living in subdivisions built when gas was $1.50 or less a gallon.

Infrastructure is another problem. Public transit, in particular, faces a chicken-and-egg problem: it’s hard to justify transit systems unless there’s sufficient population density, yet it’s hard to persuade people to live in denser neighborhoods unless they come with the advantage of transit access.

And there are, as always in America, the issues of race and class. Despite the gentrification that has taken place in some inner cities, and the plunge in national crime rates to levels not seen in decades, it will be hard to shake the longstanding American association of higher-density living with poverty and personal danger.

Still, if we’re heading for a prolonged era of scarce, expensive oil, Americans will face increasingly strong incentives to start living like Europeans — maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of our lives.

See also

The world gets bigger

[bsrsharma]

Stranded in Suburbia

Paul Krugman has a couple of columns on the relationship between cost of transportation and its impact on urban growth and also international trade.

I have seen the future, and it works.
…..
If Europe’s example is any guide, here are the two secrets of coping with expensive oil: own fuel-efficient cars, and don’t drive them too much.

………
Any serious reduction in American driving will require more than this — it will mean changing how and where many of us live.

To see what I’m talking about, consider where I am at the moment: in a pleasant, middle-class neighborhood consisting mainly of four- or five-story apartment buildings, with easy access to public transit and plenty of local shopping.

It’s the kind of neighborhood in which people don’t have to drive a lot, but it’s also a kind of neighborhood that barely exists in America, even in big metropolitan areas. Greater Atlanta has roughly the same population as Greater Berlin — but Berlin is a city of trains, buses and bikes, while Atlanta is a city of cars, cars and cars.

And in the face of rising oil prices, which have left many Americans stranded in suburbia — utterly dependent on their cars, yet having a hard time affording gas — it’s starting to look as if Berlin had the better idea.

Changing the geography of American metropolitan areas will be hard. For one thing, houses last a lot longer than cars. Long after today’s S.U.V.’s have become antique collectors’ items, millions of people will still be living in subdivisions built when gas was $1.50 or less a gallon.

Infrastructure is another problem. Public transit, in particular, faces a chicken-and-egg problem: it’s hard to justify transit systems unless there’s sufficient population density, yet it’s hard to persuade people to live in denser neighborhoods unless they come with the advantage of transit access.

And there are, as always in America, the issues of race and class. Despite the gentrification that has taken place in some inner cities, and the plunge in national crime rates to levels not seen in decades, it will be hard to shake the longstanding American association of higher-density living with poverty and personal danger.

Still, if we’re heading for a prolonged era of scarce, expensive oil, Americans will face increasingly strong incentives to start living like Europeans — maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of our lives.

See also

The world gets bigger

[kewp]

There is another potential solution, American ingenuity.

I’ve posted a link to this company a few times:

http://www.flytheroad.com/

In a nutshell, they are on tract to create a 100mpg 2-person three wheeler, for around 20k.

Something like this could literally save the exurbs.

Have a hybrid or bio-diesel SUV to run errands and the VentureOne for the daily commute.

[kewp]

There is another potential solution, American ingenuity.

I’ve posted a link to this company a few times:

http://www.flytheroad.com/

In a nutshell, they are on tract to create a 100mpg 2-person three wheeler, for around 20k.

Something like this could literally save the exurbs.

Have a hybrid or bio-diesel SUV to run errands and the VentureOne for the daily commute.

[kewp]

There is another potential solution, American ingenuity.

I’ve posted a link to this company a few times:

http://www.flytheroad.com/

In a nutshell, they are on tract to create a 100mpg 2-person three wheeler, for around 20k.

Something like this could literally save the exurbs.

Have a hybrid or bio-diesel SUV to run errands and the VentureOne for the daily commute.

[kewp]

There is another potential solution, American ingenuity.

I’ve posted a link to this company a few times:

http://www.flytheroad.com/

In a nutshell, they are on tract to create a 100mpg 2-person three wheeler, for around 20k.

Something like this could literally save the exurbs.

Have a hybrid or bio-diesel SUV to run errands and the VentureOne for the daily commute.

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