Surreal State of the State Speech

[Djshakes]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=pri_dk]But one thing won’t work: Making teaching even less attractive as a profession.[/quote]

Agree with this, pri_dk.

There’s at least a dozen teachers at every high school around here that have =>30 years on the job. Middle and elem schools avg 6-8 with =>30 years on the job.

How can all these teachers be replaced (most w/bilingual skills). Of the handful of unemployed (in the education field) teachers I know, they don’t have proper credentials to teach here. And most of them are not bilingual.

These 30+ yr teachers don’t make any more by getting up and going to work every day. Many just love kids and teaching. What if they all retired tomorrow??[/quote]

Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]

Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.

Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]

Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.

Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]

Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.

Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]

Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.

Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]

Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.

Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??

[Djshakes]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]

Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.

Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??[/quote]

I haven’t really cared enough to look at current ratios of education major graduates but I would assume there would be plenty of fresh graduates looking for work that were education majors.

Teacher credentialing is rigorous? Doesn’t look any different than what I went through in WI. If I wanted to teach in CA when I moved here all I had to do was pass the CBEST test(if I remember name correctly).

http://www.ctc.ca.gov/credentials/leaflets/cl560c.pdf

[Djshakes]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]

Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.

Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??[/quote]

I haven’t really cared enough to look at current ratios of education major graduates but I would assume there would be plenty of fresh graduates looking for work that were education majors.

Teacher credentialing is rigorous? Doesn’t look any different than what I went through in WI. If I wanted to teach in CA when I moved here all I had to do was pass the CBEST test(if I remember name correctly).

http://www.ctc.ca.gov/credentials/leaflets/cl560c.pdf

[Djshakes]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]

Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.

Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??[/quote]

I haven’t really cared enough to look at current ratios of education major graduates but I would assume there would be plenty of fresh graduates looking for work that were education majors.

Teacher credentialing is rigorous? Doesn’t look any different than what I went through in WI. If I wanted to teach in CA when I moved here all I had to do was pass the CBEST test(if I remember name correctly).

http://www.ctc.ca.gov/credentials/leaflets/cl560c.pdf

[Djshakes]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]

Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.

Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??[/quote]

I haven’t really cared enough to look at current ratios of education major graduates but I would assume there would be plenty of fresh graduates looking for work that were education majors.

Teacher credentialing is rigorous? Doesn’t look any different than what I went through in WI. If I wanted to teach in CA when I moved here all I had to do was pass the CBEST test(if I remember name correctly).

http://www.ctc.ca.gov/credentials/leaflets/cl560c.pdf

[Djshakes]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Djshakes]Obviously you never worked in education. The best thing to happen would be for the 30+ year teachers to retire. We hire younger, more up to date teachers at a cheaper rate. I guarantee most 60 year old teachers are not bi-lingual either. There wasn’t as much of a need back in the day when they graduate and became licensed. Again, a lot of the older teachers are coasting towards retirement. The fire is gone.

For example, when I started teaching in 2000 the teacher I replaced was still teaching MS Works. She had no desire to learn and re-tool to teach Office.[/quote]

Well, my kids have had GREAT teachers that were 62+ yrs old. And yes, several were bilingual. Most are retired now but there are many more in the pipe.

Who do you propose we replace these teaching slots with, Djshakes?? The teacher credentialing process in CA is fairly rigorous. And many districts require bilingual skills. Has the CSU system been cranking out a lot of teaching majors lately??[/quote]

I haven’t really cared enough to look at current ratios of education major graduates but I would assume there would be plenty of fresh graduates looking for work that were education majors.

Teacher credentialing is rigorous? Doesn’t look any different than what I went through in WI. If I wanted to teach in CA when I moved here all I had to do was pass the CBEST test(if I remember name correctly).

http://www.ctc.ca.gov/credentials/leaflets/cl560c.pdf

[bearishgurl]

Thanks for the interesting link, Djshakes. A “single-subject” credential is not the same as being able to teach all subjects at a grade level (such as K-6). Also, several of the current teaching staff you are seeking to replace are certified to teach more than one subject at the HS level. I take from your post that you never actually taught in CA?

Just curious, Djshakes. What subject did you teach in HS? And why didn’t you go thru with the credentialing process in CA?

[bearishgurl]

Thanks for the interesting link, Djshakes. A “single-subject” credential is not the same as being able to teach all subjects at a grade level (such as K-6). Also, several of the current teaching staff you are seeking to replace are certified to teach more than one subject at the HS level. I take from your post that you never actually taught in CA?

Just curious, Djshakes. What subject did you teach in HS? And why didn’t you go thru with the credentialing process in CA?

[bearishgurl]

Thanks for the interesting link, Djshakes. A “single-subject” credential is not the same as being able to teach all subjects at a grade level (such as K-6). Also, several of the current teaching staff you are seeking to replace are certified to teach more than one subject at the HS level. I take from your post that you never actually taught in CA?

Just curious, Djshakes. What subject did you teach in HS? And why didn’t you go thru with the credentialing process in CA?

[bearishgurl]

Thanks for the interesting link, Djshakes. A “single-subject” credential is not the same as being able to teach all subjects at a grade level (such as K-6). Also, several of the current teaching staff you are seeking to replace are certified to teach more than one subject at the HS level. I take from your post that you never actually taught in CA?

Just curious, Djshakes. What subject did you teach in HS? And why didn’t you go thru with the credentialing process in CA?

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