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November 14, 2006 at 3:35 AM #39919November 14, 2006 at 5:42 AM #39921L_Thek_onomicsParticipant
“Patriotic? Are all people who criticise the President or government unpatriotic?”
If the criticism is constructive and well argued, no. When
become hysterical and is helping the propaganda of our
enemies, defenetely unpatriotic, even treasonous.“The only thing I hate about America it is the stupidity of these types of people, who would dare question someones patriotism or love of country simply because they are critical of the government.”
Did someone smacked you on your head, so keep running in circles?
“I’m sure these same idiots were whining along with Rush Limbaugh every day that Clinton was in office. I guess they all hated America too.”
Actually one of the idiots (me), become U.S. citizen just before the
’92 elections. I volunteered for the Clinton campaign, and celebrated
his win. It’s not my fault, Clinton betrayed every straight thinking
Democrats and destroyed the traditional Democratic base. I’m one
of the many, who can say, the Party left me. (Rush Limbaugh has
nothing to do with Clinton’s ethical standards.)L Thek
November 14, 2006 at 7:12 AM #39922daveljParticipantThis series of posts reminds me of something my father told me a long time ago: “Don’t get into a fight with a pig, son. You both end up getting dirty but the pig enjoys it.”
November 14, 2006 at 7:53 AM #39923AnonymousGuestThat's funny, lk, breast cancer and 'b….'
I've got a wife, daughter, and mother; women's health is important to me. The incredible focus on breast cancer, at the expense of heart disease (the biggest killer of women), makes no sense to me.
This is dated, but it gives you a sense that research dollars are NOT rationally (but, instead, emotionally) allocated:
November 14, 2006 at 9:25 AM #39929CardiffBaseballParticipantHey I was a Clinton ’92 voter, while active-duty military.
I grew up a Union Democrat, one that the brie-eating, foreign car driving california liberal tolerates once every 4 years before going back to their social clubs.
I thought the Democratic Party was out to protect the auto and steel industry. Economic Nationalists. So despite my pro-gun stance, my distaste for welfare-queens, affirmative action, death penalty opponents, etc. I plugged my nose and voted conservative Democrat (Abilene – Charles Stenholm, Youngstown – Jim Traficant). At some point, I just couldn’t take it anymore, and since both parties became Pro-Nafta, I at least agreed in principle more with Newt Gingrinch than I did the granola crowd so here I am.
November 14, 2006 at 10:03 AM #39931sdnativesonParticipantI can’t believe this thread lasted this long on a R.E. site.
This site didn’t provide any new insights so, before I delete this link a couple of thoughts.The original post, ps, you posted (parroted) a quote
from Spiegal.
Reading news (all opinion and/or propaganda) from around the world falls short of the true (I assume, unless your goal is purely self validation) purpose of the endevour.I browse through hundreds of publications world wide daily
(it’s my work), I say browse, meaning when something of interest is found, I look for the actual source of the content, then the motivation(true intent) becomes (hopefully) clearer, then I have an idea of
where and to whom to go for something more concise.
Needless to say, it’s necessary to find and look at all sides (not both) of a….. “event” however distasteful and tedious, in order to attempt even a modicum of understanding.My point(s) (there are several), maybe take away this one, reading and gathering information that only validates your opinions is ultimately worthless to you and those you espouse it to.
I would also suggest that the practice of using vindictive toward those with whom you disagree and their subsequent opinions be stopped. Name calling and insulting comments is not the way to create an dialogue. If it’s a dialogue you want. It shows a style that has no class. If you cannot show respect to those with whom you disagree (until they have proven they aren’t worthy of it)
you certainly aren’t entitled to it. It’s juvenile and shows a lack of intelligence.I didn’t come here for social rhetoric, I came here to see if there was something to be gleaned as to a section of the market in San Diego from those who are living it.
Ignore the typos and grammatical errors I choose not to fix them but move on.November 14, 2006 at 10:32 AM #39934picpouleParticipantSpiegel online has an article entitled, “Bye, Bye, Deutschland” about how productive working people are leaving Germany in droves because of very poor career and job prospects. At the same time, poor Muslim immigrants keep streaming in. Germany is a sclerotic, state that is collapsing in on itself. It is also virulently anti-American, even though we rescued them from the Nazis last century.
And along those lines, why should we listen to anything Germany has to say about our leaders? They have shown very, very poor judgment in picking their leaders. And the Germans have proven far more dangerous than the U.S. in world affairs. Thanks to them, we had wholesale manslaughter, bloodshed, death camps and genocide during two World Wars that they were responsible for. After their sorry history, they get to make fun of us? What a joke!
In the next ten years, when decadent Germany comes running to the U.S. to save them from the civil war they’ll have with the Muslims, the U.S. will turn its back on them — finally. And I’ll say, “Good Riddance.”
November 14, 2006 at 12:10 PM #39952L_Thek_onomicsParticipant“Spiegel online has an article entitled, “Bye, Bye, Deutschland” about how productive working people are leaving Germany in droves because of very poor career and job prospects.”
Absolutely correct, well done. The sad part of the story, too many
boneheads in our great country ignores the lessons of history and think, they stupid head will not be chopped off by the militant islamist, because they hated Bush and America.L Thek
November 14, 2006 at 1:00 PM #39955AnonymousGuestGermany isn’t the only country who criticises Bush, virtually every country in the world is critical of the Iraq war and Bush. You guys need to get out more often.
November 14, 2006 at 1:04 PM #39957socalarmParticipantdeleted
November 14, 2006 at 1:06 PM #39960socalarmParticipant“The sad part of the story, too many
boneheads in our great country ignores the lessons of history and think, they stupid head will not be chopped off by the militant islamist, because they hated Bush and America.”i will memorize this one
November 14, 2006 at 3:17 PM #39973PerryChaseParticipantThe Germany of today is much different from the Germany of 60 years ago. Germans are the most well-traveled people in the world so they are very open to what’s going on in the world. You can see Germans just about everywhere you go.
On the other hand, Americans tend to stay home in the comfort of their living-rooms. They base their opinions on what they see on TV.
November 14, 2006 at 3:55 PM #39977startingoutParticipantWell said, PerryChase. I know far too many people in America who couldn’t be bothered to visit neighboring counties, let alone other countries. When I’m abroad it always amazes me how much citizens of other countries pay attention to what is going on in the world- they pay close attention not only to their own politics, but also the politics of many other countries.
I’m not sure if that has something to do with the media though, as American media tends not to report on foreign politics (unless it has to do with some fear-mongering subject like nuclear war), while I’ve noticed that news programs in other countries include news from many different nations and cultures in their reports. It can’t all be blamed on the media though, a certain amount of personal responsibility for being aware of the global community that one is a part of is necessary, and certainly is found wanting in most Americans today.
I think the bubble analogy applies not only to housing, but to most Americans themselves- they’re bubble people, living inside their own bubble and totally unaware and uninterested in anything that happens outside of their bubble.
November 14, 2006 at 4:08 PM #39979AnonymousGuestI agree the germany today is not the germany of our fathers or grand-fathers. I travel alot so I am inclined to disagree with Germans being the most well traveled, I could be wrong but it’s not what I observe. For instance, I was in Germany in June and if was full of…. Germans ok, ok bad joke. My recent travels mostly South East Asia and Central America while I did meet several of European nationality the largest group was Austrian. For the most part I am seeing mostly chinese and koreans and surprisingly Mexicans.
November 14, 2006 at 4:43 PM #39981L_Thek_onomicsParticipant“I think the bubble analogy applies not only to housing, but to most Americans themselves- they’re bubble people, living inside their own bubble and totally unaware and uninterested in anything that happens outside of their bubble.”
Called liberal elite…
L Thek
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