Should we stay or should we go?

[Coronita]

[quote=Hobie]you still carry your laptop?… I’ve got people.[/quote]

Yeah, but with this covid thing, you can’t always count on them to wear a mask and properly socially distance…Damn, domestic duties. Now, not only do I need to change my own oil, clean my own toilets, cut my own grass…But damnit…Carry my own MacBook Pro laptop bag….

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=scaredyclassic]
i immediately embraced this theory as the overarching unified theory of everything human, from hoarding, to trump, to money, religion, art, fashion. no more need to wonder why anyone does anything anymore. it’s all about managing death terror[/quote]

The problem is we do lots of things and have lots of needs that fly in the face of this theory. Like sex, or thrill seeking, or going to war. Terror management is just a part of the complex human psyche.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=XBoxBoy][quote=scaredyclassic]
i immediately embraced this theory as the overarching unified theory of everything human, from hoarding, to trump, to money, religion, art, fashion. no more need to wonder why anyone does anything anymore. it’s all about managing death terror[/quote]

The problem is we do lots of things and have lots of needs that fly in the face of this theory. Like sex, or thrill seeking, or going to war. Terror management is just a part of the complex human psyche.[/quote]

terror management addresses that. don’t worry, the terror mgt theorists are way ahead of you. we go to desperate measures to defend these cultural structures we’ve created to ward off death anxiety…

“Terror Management Theory (TMT) was developed in 1986 by social psychologists Jeff Greenberg, Tom Pyszczynski, and Sheldon Solomon based upon Ernest Becker’s ideas.

TMT posits that while humans share with all life-forms a biological predisposition toward self-preservation in the service of reproduction, we are unique in our capacity for symbolic thought, which fosters self-awareness and the ability to reflect on the past and ponder the future. This spawns the realization that death is inevitable and can occur at any time for reasons that cannot be anticipated or controlled.

The awareness of death engenders potentially debilitating terror that is “managed” by the development and maintenance of cultural worldviews: humanly constructed beliefs about reality shared by individuals that minimize existential dread by conferring meaning and value. All cultures provide a sense that life is meaningful by offering an account of the origin of the universe, prescriptions for appropriate behavior, and assurance of immortality for those who behave in accordance with cultural dictates. Literal immortality is afforded by souls, heavens, afterlives, and reincarnations associated with all major religions. Symbolic immortality is obtained by being part of a great nation, amassing great fortunes, noteworthy accomplishments, and having children.

Psychological equanimity also requires that individuals perceive themselves as persons of value in a world of meaning. This is accomplished through social roles with associated standards. Self-esteem is the sense of personal significance that results from meeting or exceeding such standards.

Three lines of research provide empirical support for TMT:

The anxiety-buffering function of self-esteem is established by studies where momentarily elevated self-esteem results in lower self-reported anxiety and physiological arousal.
Making death salient by asking people to think about themselves dying (or viewing graphic depictions of death, being interviewed in front of a funeral parlor, or subliminal exposure to the word “dead” or “death”) intensifies strivings to defend their cultural worldviews by increasing positive reactions to similar others, and negative reactions toward those who are different.
Research verifies the existential function of cultural worldviews and self-esteem by demonstrating that non-conscious death thoughts come more readily to mind when cherished cultural beliefs or self-esteem is threatened.
TMT has generated empirical research (currently more than 500 studies) examining a host of other forms of human social behavior, including aggression, stereotyping, needs for structure and meaning, depression and psychopathology, political preferences, creativity, sexuality, romantic and interpersonal attachment, self-awareness, unconscious cognition, martyrdom, religion, group identification, disgust, human-nature relations, physical health, risk taking, and legal judgments.

In 2015, Greenberg, Pyszczynski and Solomon published The Worm at the Core, which reviews this vast body of research supporting Becker’s central claim that the fear of death is “the mainspring of human activity.”

[zk]

I live in San Diego because I love the weather, the culture, the people, the ocean, the recreational opportunities, and that sort of thing. If I lived in Nevada, could I have a bigger house and pay no state tax? Sure. But I’d be living in Nevada. Or Texas or Florida or wherever.

If were somewhat poorer and my options were a studio condo in San Diego or a pretty nice house in Florida, I would still live in San Diego. If I were a lot poorer and my options were renting a room in a house in a not-so-good part of San Diego or a small condo in an inexpensive part of Florida, I would still live in San Diego. If I were trying to live on $800/month and my options were to be homeless in San Diego or to have meager accommodations in Florida…I’d move to Florida. Probably.

If I had $60M (or $30M), there’s no way in hell I would ever dream of living anywhere but San Diego. Or whichever city I would most want to live in. I guess what city they live in is less important to some people. But I think only the tiniest (and most foolish) minority of people worth $60M would decide what city they live in based on money.

What good is money if you can’t even live where you want? So you die with $30M instead of $60M. You’re going to live your life in your second- (or third- or fourth-) favorite state so that you can…what? Have a 30,000 sf house on the ocean (in Florida? Yuck. or Texas?) instead of a 10,000 sf house overlooking the Pacific? Have a bigger jet? Die with more money? None of those options comes remotely close to making any sense to me.

If you like those states better, sure. But to move there to save money when you have that much is unfathomable to me.

To do it “on principle,” as another poster suggested, would be cutting off your nose to spite your face. That’s taking stupid up a notch.

[sdrealtor]

This thread is starting to turn into the piggington version of the greatest all time thread on a wine board Ive frequented for years. Its been going for 7 years and this one could also. It may even surpass the Sky Ranch thread someday. Oh and the title of that thread on the wine board

“Friend of friend wants to land his helicopter at Screaming Eagle”

[Hobie]

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[The-Shoveler]

I think If I had 30 to 60 Million I would have probably 3 houses, 1 in Nevada or Florida as primary for tax reasons,
1 In SoCal somewhere (maybe keep current pad, really like it), 1 on Maui where I would spend about 1/2 my time probably.

I don’t think I would spend much time on piggingtons asking advice from a bunch of decamillionaire wannabee’s LOL.

I would also spend a lot more time worrying about the zimbabwe-fication of the USD LOL, which would probably cause me to do something really stupid. Sometimes better to be just average I think.

[sdrealtor]

Its not as easy as buying a house in FLA and claiming residence there. I have many friends going through this right now. You NEED to spend at least 183 days per year in FLA to claim residency and document it with plane tickets and credit card charges proving you were there. You wanna be a FLA resident? You have to actually live there then

[scaredyclassic]

unless you’re trump.

im leaning toward a nomadic lifestyle with my 30 million. a really nice van. but not too flashy. stay in motels from time to time.

[gzz]

OP, I don’t have any kids, and I barely scrape by on the rents and dividends from my 60M portfolio. I don’t know how you do it!

[gzz]

my life partner is a Vegan Van Life instagramm-thinkfluencer. Google it.

I’m glad my driveway has “RV Parking” like all the home listings say.

[an]

Oooh, let’s play what would I do if I have a net worth of $30-60m… I would build a $2M house in SD and use that as my primary residence (love the weather and the people). Then I would have a house/condo in Colorado mountain (Vail, Aspen, etc), Park City, Whistler, US Virgin Island, Hawaii, Sedona, and maybe the Bahamas.

[an]

[quote=The-Shoveler]I would also spend a lot more time worrying about the zimbabwe-fication of the USD LOL, which would probably cause me to do something really stupid. Sometimes better to be just average I think.[/quote]I would load up on RE with 30 years loan if I’m worried about zimbabwe-fication of the USD. I don’t think we’ll get that crazy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a repeat of late 70s/early 80s inflation again.

[an]

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[flyer]

OP, you should do whatever you want to do–only you know what you want out of life. You can’t buy time–and the clock is ticking for all of us–so enjoy!

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