SF city RE prices down to 2017 prices due to crime wave and WFH

[sdrealtor]

Exactly they refuse treatment and help over and over. The problem you talk about is not the problem. Youre as bad maybe worse than the wealthy liberal elites you grew up around because you think like them but resent their wealth at the same time.

Here’s a better idea. GET A FRICKIN JOB! GO DO SOMETHING!

[sdrealtor]

[quote=spdrun]You absolutely can’t and shouldn’t, but would people sleeping rough actually turn down the offer of a dry place to sleep with no strings attached for six months? As we learned from quarantine measures – coercion actually reduces interest in compliance. Offer housing, connect them with services IF THEY CHOOSE TO USE THEM and help them voluntarily rebuild their lives.[/quote]

Yes they turn it down every day

[spdrun]

They turn it down because it’s conditional. Provide unconditional housing, then focus on the sobriety, treatment, and employment parts.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]They turn it down because it’s conditional. Provide unconditional housing, then focus on the sobriety, treatment, and employment parts.[/quote]
LoL, F-NO!

[spdrun]

F-NO to the idea, or F-NO to this being why the homeless turn it down?

[sdrealtor]

God I hate to sound like my right wing friends when they say this but freedom isn’t free! You enjoy the safety and structure of this great country yet you want it to be like more socialistic European countries that don’t have what we have here. Somebody’s got to work and pay the bills and by your own admission you never really have. People go to work. Freedom isn’t free

[an]

[quote=spdrun]F-NO to the idea, or F-NO to this being why the homeless turn it down?[/quote]
F-NO to no string attached. You can house them in your house with no strings attached.

[spdrun]

You’re implying the US is safer and more orderly than EU countries while complaining about safety and lack of order in SD and SF. Which is it?

[spdrun]

OK, then they’ll continue to sleep on the street. Arrest them? Possibly. But jailing people costs the taxpayers more than just providing housing/food/services in the free world. We can try to fix the problem, or we can moralize about it.

What do you suggest as an effective means of fixing the issue?

[an]

[quote=spdrun]OK, then they’ll continue to sleep on the street. Arrest them? Possibly. But jailing people costs the taxpayers more than just providing housing/food/services in the free world.[/quote]
Strawman… It’s not illegal to be homeless.

[spdrun]

No, but some of the behaviors that people take issue with (theft, public defecation, camping where it isn’t allowed) are illegal.

How do you propose we fix this?

[sdrealtor]

[quote=spdrun]You’re implying the US is safer and more orderly than EU countries while complaining about safety and lack of order in SD and SF. Which is it?[/quote]

Get a job loser! Our country is relatively safe or urban areas and city streets a lot less so

You want free housing for everyone but you don’t wanna pay for it. How about that? Which one is it?

[an]

[quote=spdrun]No, but some of the behaviors that people take issue with (theft, public defecation, camping where it isn’t allowed) are illegal.

How do you propose we fix this?[/quote]
Jail them in low security prison and 3-strike.

[sdrealtor]

[quote=spdrun]No, but some of the behaviors that people take issue with (theft, public defecation, camping where it isn’t allowed) are illegal.

How do you propose we fix this?[/quote]

By you getting a job and helping pay for it

[spdrun]

Are you actually proposing a life sentence for repeated misdemeanors or violations?

If it’s not a life sentence, jail time doesn’t improve mental health, doesn’t generally improve job prospects, and is more expensive than providing housing.

Incarceration costs upwards of $100,000 per year in California.

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