School test scores… like ’em or not, they’re out for the 2009/2010 year

[bearishgurl]

[quote=pjwal]Can someone explain to my why a school like Poinsettia Elementary in Carlsbad lists 90 of 299 students as socioeconomically challenged?

http://api.cde.ca.gov/AcntRpt2010/2009BaseSch.aspx?allcds=37735510113498

What exactly defines that status? That seems rather high for an area like La Costa Greens.[/quote]

pjwal, aren’t there some Section 8 apt. complexes within the City of Carlsbad?

Don’t exactly know where this school is, but are there still a couple of small trailer parks in Leucadia and/or Cardiff? Does this school district bus any of its students?

Have all the migrant farm-worker camps around there been cleaned up? Where do these farm workers live now? Perhaps on their employers’ land, in trailers?

The name “Poinsettia” is a red flag to me. Where are all the poinsettia greenhouses relative to this school??

IMHO, NO PUBLIC SCHOOL in CA (except perhaps those schools situtated within covenants whose district DOES NOT bus into them) is immune to disadvantaged children attending it.

[pjwal]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Poinsettia+Elementary,+Carlsbad,+CA&sll=33.118359,-117.255621&sspn=0.009291,0.018818&ie=UTF8&hq=Poinsettia+Elementary,&hnear=Carlsbad,+San+Diego,+California&ll=33.134964,-117.253304&spn=0.148634,0.301094&t=h&z=12&iwloc=A

Poinsettia is a fairly new elementary school in La Costa Greens bordering a new William Lyons development we looked at last weekend. I mean the area is surrounded by a country club, golf course, etc, so I’m still perplexed that a whole one third of the students could be from low-income housing.

This is the first I’ve heard regarding migrant farm-worker camps…please illuminate me and any other thoughts on the La Costa Greens area is appreciated.

[pjwal]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Poinsettia+Elementary,+Carlsbad,+CA&sll=33.118359,-117.255621&sspn=0.009291,0.018818&ie=UTF8&hq=Poinsettia+Elementary,&hnear=Carlsbad,+San+Diego,+California&ll=33.134964,-117.253304&spn=0.148634,0.301094&t=h&z=12&iwloc=A

Poinsettia is a fairly new elementary school in La Costa Greens bordering a new William Lyons development we looked at last weekend. I mean the area is surrounded by a country club, golf course, etc, so I’m still perplexed that a whole one third of the students could be from low-income housing.

This is the first I’ve heard regarding migrant farm-worker camps…please illuminate me and any other thoughts on the La Costa Greens area is appreciated.

[pjwal]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Poinsettia+Elementary,+Carlsbad,+CA&sll=33.118359,-117.255621&sspn=0.009291,0.018818&ie=UTF8&hq=Poinsettia+Elementary,&hnear=Carlsbad,+San+Diego,+California&ll=33.134964,-117.253304&spn=0.148634,0.301094&t=h&z=12&iwloc=A

Poinsettia is a fairly new elementary school in La Costa Greens bordering a new William Lyons development we looked at last weekend. I mean the area is surrounded by a country club, golf course, etc, so I’m still perplexed that a whole one third of the students could be from low-income housing.

This is the first I’ve heard regarding migrant farm-worker camps…please illuminate me and any other thoughts on the La Costa Greens area is appreciated.

[pjwal]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Poinsettia+Elementary,+Carlsbad,+CA&sll=33.118359,-117.255621&sspn=0.009291,0.018818&ie=UTF8&hq=Poinsettia+Elementary,&hnear=Carlsbad,+San+Diego,+California&ll=33.134964,-117.253304&spn=0.148634,0.301094&t=h&z=12&iwloc=A

Poinsettia is a fairly new elementary school in La Costa Greens bordering a new William Lyons development we looked at last weekend. I mean the area is surrounded by a country club, golf course, etc, so I’m still perplexed that a whole one third of the students could be from low-income housing.

This is the first I’ve heard regarding migrant farm-worker camps…please illuminate me and any other thoughts on the La Costa Greens area is appreciated.

[pjwal]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Poinsettia+Elementary,+Carlsbad,+CA&sll=33.118359,-117.255621&sspn=0.009291,0.018818&ie=UTF8&hq=Poinsettia+Elementary,&hnear=Carlsbad,+San+Diego,+California&ll=33.134964,-117.253304&spn=0.148634,0.301094&t=h&z=12&iwloc=A

Poinsettia is a fairly new elementary school in La Costa Greens bordering a new William Lyons development we looked at last weekend. I mean the area is surrounded by a country club, golf course, etc, so I’m still perplexed that a whole one third of the students could be from low-income housing.

This is the first I’ve heard regarding migrant farm-worker camps…please illuminate me and any other thoughts on the La Costa Greens area is appreciated.

[sdrealtor]

PJ
There are a handful of affordable housing condos and apartments in Bressi Ranch which feeds that school and are likely full of young familes while the houses in BR skew toward older families.

UCG
There are no condos or apartments within the attendance boundaries of my kids school. Only 4 out of 700 are categorized disadvantaged. I wouldnt mind more diversity but its pretty insulated here and there are other schools set in similar settings that are insulated as well.

[sdrealtor]

PJ
There are a handful of affordable housing condos and apartments in Bressi Ranch which feeds that school and are likely full of young familes while the houses in BR skew toward older families.

UCG
There are no condos or apartments within the attendance boundaries of my kids school. Only 4 out of 700 are categorized disadvantaged. I wouldnt mind more diversity but its pretty insulated here and there are other schools set in similar settings that are insulated as well.

[sdrealtor]

PJ
There are a handful of affordable housing condos and apartments in Bressi Ranch which feeds that school and are likely full of young familes while the houses in BR skew toward older families.

UCG
There are no condos or apartments within the attendance boundaries of my kids school. Only 4 out of 700 are categorized disadvantaged. I wouldnt mind more diversity but its pretty insulated here and there are other schools set in similar settings that are insulated as well.

[sdrealtor]

PJ
There are a handful of affordable housing condos and apartments in Bressi Ranch which feeds that school and are likely full of young familes while the houses in BR skew toward older families.

UCG
There are no condos or apartments within the attendance boundaries of my kids school. Only 4 out of 700 are categorized disadvantaged. I wouldnt mind more diversity but its pretty insulated here and there are other schools set in similar settings that are insulated as well.

[sdrealtor]

PJ
There are a handful of affordable housing condos and apartments in Bressi Ranch which feeds that school and are likely full of young familes while the houses in BR skew toward older families.

UCG
There are no condos or apartments within the attendance boundaries of my kids school. Only 4 out of 700 are categorized disadvantaged. I wouldnt mind more diversity but its pretty insulated here and there are other schools set in similar settings that are insulated as well.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=pjwal] . . . Poinsettia is a fairly new elementary school in La Costa Greens bordering a new William Lyons development we looked at last weekend. I mean the area is surrounded by a country club, golf course, etc, so I’m still perplexed that a whole one third of the students could be from low-income housing.

This is the first I’ve heard regarding migrant farm-worker camps…please illuminate me and any other thoughts on the La Costa Greens area is appreciated.[/quote]

pjwal,

“Looks and surrounds” are always decieving. Your Section 8 units and other “HUD” (adj. to income) units were *mandated* to be built by these developers as a condition of granting them the amount of SFR (and PUD) permits they desired at the time Carlsbad was built out (abt. 1997 to 2004). These units may be “mixed-in” in the same complex with “market-rate” units so that passers-by can’t tell they have been set-aside for low-income families (paying abt. $220 to $660) mo. rent per unit. Many of these families may be on TANF and qualify for the “free lunch” program and free transportation to/from school.

“Illegal” migrant farm-worker camps settled into the canyons of Carmel Valley, Carlsbad and even upper Tecolote in a very large magnitude in the mid-eighties. The City of SD cleared the last of theirs out (CV) in 2005 (after more than 20 yrs occupancy). I don’t know if Carlsbad ever successfully eradicated this problem. As I recall, a “handful,” (less than 100) people lived in upper Tecolote, hundreds of people lived in Carlsbad and *more than one thousand* (not sure how many thousands) of people lived in CV, which had quite a “developed underground community.”

Even though these workers now need work permits, this doesn’t stop them from living on their employer’s land. It’s perfectly legal and they need a place to live. Many have moved their families from MX to the US because they work year-round.

CA schools and school districts are not in the business of determining citizenship of children and, by law, cannot do so. They must ask for proof of residency is whichever manner the district determine works for them. If a parent/guardian can provide the proof (and the school is not impacted), their children are admitted to the school. A family living on their employer’s land in an employer-provided trailer (example I used) are “residents” for the purpose of school attendance.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=pjwal] . . . Poinsettia is a fairly new elementary school in La Costa Greens bordering a new William Lyons development we looked at last weekend. I mean the area is surrounded by a country club, golf course, etc, so I’m still perplexed that a whole one third of the students could be from low-income housing.

This is the first I’ve heard regarding migrant farm-worker camps…please illuminate me and any other thoughts on the La Costa Greens area is appreciated.[/quote]

pjwal,

“Looks and surrounds” are always decieving. Your Section 8 units and other “HUD” (adj. to income) units were *mandated* to be built by these developers as a condition of granting them the amount of SFR (and PUD) permits they desired at the time Carlsbad was built out (abt. 1997 to 2004). These units may be “mixed-in” in the same complex with “market-rate” units so that passers-by can’t tell they have been set-aside for low-income families (paying abt. $220 to $660) mo. rent per unit. Many of these families may be on TANF and qualify for the “free lunch” program and free transportation to/from school.

“Illegal” migrant farm-worker camps settled into the canyons of Carmel Valley, Carlsbad and even upper Tecolote in a very large magnitude in the mid-eighties. The City of SD cleared the last of theirs out (CV) in 2005 (after more than 20 yrs occupancy). I don’t know if Carlsbad ever successfully eradicated this problem. As I recall, a “handful,” (less than 100) people lived in upper Tecolote, hundreds of people lived in Carlsbad and *more than one thousand* (not sure how many thousands) of people lived in CV, which had quite a “developed underground community.”

Even though these workers now need work permits, this doesn’t stop them from living on their employer’s land. It’s perfectly legal and they need a place to live. Many have moved their families from MX to the US because they work year-round.

CA schools and school districts are not in the business of determining citizenship of children and, by law, cannot do so. They must ask for proof of residency is whichever manner the district determine works for them. If a parent/guardian can provide the proof (and the school is not impacted), their children are admitted to the school. A family living on their employer’s land in an employer-provided trailer (example I used) are “residents” for the purpose of school attendance.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=pjwal] . . . Poinsettia is a fairly new elementary school in La Costa Greens bordering a new William Lyons development we looked at last weekend. I mean the area is surrounded by a country club, golf course, etc, so I’m still perplexed that a whole one third of the students could be from low-income housing.

This is the first I’ve heard regarding migrant farm-worker camps…please illuminate me and any other thoughts on the La Costa Greens area is appreciated.[/quote]

pjwal,

“Looks and surrounds” are always decieving. Your Section 8 units and other “HUD” (adj. to income) units were *mandated* to be built by these developers as a condition of granting them the amount of SFR (and PUD) permits they desired at the time Carlsbad was built out (abt. 1997 to 2004). These units may be “mixed-in” in the same complex with “market-rate” units so that passers-by can’t tell they have been set-aside for low-income families (paying abt. $220 to $660) mo. rent per unit. Many of these families may be on TANF and qualify for the “free lunch” program and free transportation to/from school.

“Illegal” migrant farm-worker camps settled into the canyons of Carmel Valley, Carlsbad and even upper Tecolote in a very large magnitude in the mid-eighties. The City of SD cleared the last of theirs out (CV) in 2005 (after more than 20 yrs occupancy). I don’t know if Carlsbad ever successfully eradicated this problem. As I recall, a “handful,” (less than 100) people lived in upper Tecolote, hundreds of people lived in Carlsbad and *more than one thousand* (not sure how many thousands) of people lived in CV, which had quite a “developed underground community.”

Even though these workers now need work permits, this doesn’t stop them from living on their employer’s land. It’s perfectly legal and they need a place to live. Many have moved their families from MX to the US because they work year-round.

CA schools and school districts are not in the business of determining citizenship of children and, by law, cannot do so. They must ask for proof of residency is whichever manner the district determine works for them. If a parent/guardian can provide the proof (and the school is not impacted), their children are admitted to the school. A family living on their employer’s land in an employer-provided trailer (example I used) are “residents” for the purpose of school attendance.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=pjwal] . . . Poinsettia is a fairly new elementary school in La Costa Greens bordering a new William Lyons development we looked at last weekend. I mean the area is surrounded by a country club, golf course, etc, so I’m still perplexed that a whole one third of the students could be from low-income housing.

This is the first I’ve heard regarding migrant farm-worker camps…please illuminate me and any other thoughts on the La Costa Greens area is appreciated.[/quote]

pjwal,

“Looks and surrounds” are always decieving. Your Section 8 units and other “HUD” (adj. to income) units were *mandated* to be built by these developers as a condition of granting them the amount of SFR (and PUD) permits they desired at the time Carlsbad was built out (abt. 1997 to 2004). These units may be “mixed-in” in the same complex with “market-rate” units so that passers-by can’t tell they have been set-aside for low-income families (paying abt. $220 to $660) mo. rent per unit. Many of these families may be on TANF and qualify for the “free lunch” program and free transportation to/from school.

“Illegal” migrant farm-worker camps settled into the canyons of Carmel Valley, Carlsbad and even upper Tecolote in a very large magnitude in the mid-eighties. The City of SD cleared the last of theirs out (CV) in 2005 (after more than 20 yrs occupancy). I don’t know if Carlsbad ever successfully eradicated this problem. As I recall, a “handful,” (less than 100) people lived in upper Tecolote, hundreds of people lived in Carlsbad and *more than one thousand* (not sure how many thousands) of people lived in CV, which had quite a “developed underground community.”

Even though these workers now need work permits, this doesn’t stop them from living on their employer’s land. It’s perfectly legal and they need a place to live. Many have moved their families from MX to the US because they work year-round.

CA schools and school districts are not in the business of determining citizenship of children and, by law, cannot do so. They must ask for proof of residency is whichever manner the district determine works for them. If a parent/guardian can provide the proof (and the school is not impacted), their children are admitted to the school. A family living on their employer’s land in an employer-provided trailer (example I used) are “residents” for the purpose of school attendance.

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