San Diego Fire Chief retires at 53 with $123K/yr pension for life…

[Aecetia]

FYI-
In the U.S., non-police males have a life-expectancy of 73 years. Policemen in the U.S. have a life expectancy of 53-66 years, depending on which research one decides to embrace. In addition, police submit workmen’s compensation claims six times higher than the rate of other employees, and commit suicide two to six times the national average. Hey, and that’s just death and injury from “natural”, “accidental” and self-inflicted causes! Add the fact that 2/3’s of U.S. policemen slain feloniously are slain during hours we generally associate with darkness, and we have yet another concern for our embattled, shift working officer – staying alert enough to prevail when attacked.

Shift Work and Officer Survival

http://www.theppsc.org/Staff_Views/Aveni/Shift-Survival.htm

[jonnycsd]

The Police Policy Studies Council? Who funds them, the Police Unions? Not sure that I would trust them to have unbiased research. It certainly conflicts with Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

Police Detectives make the list (after truck drivers, cashiers, construction workers and many others). The main hazard of being a detective? Car crashes, same as truck drivers. Firefighters don’t even make the list. Apparently Barbeque at the station, runs at the park, and very occasionally running into a burning building is not so dangerous as many believe.

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfar0020.pdf

[jonnycsd]

The Police Policy Studies Council? Who funds them, the Police Unions? Not sure that I would trust them to have unbiased research. It certainly conflicts with Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

Police Detectives make the list (after truck drivers, cashiers, construction workers and many others). The main hazard of being a detective? Car crashes, same as truck drivers. Firefighters don’t even make the list. Apparently Barbeque at the station, runs at the park, and very occasionally running into a burning building is not so dangerous as many believe.

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfar0020.pdf

[jonnycsd]

The Police Policy Studies Council? Who funds them, the Police Unions? Not sure that I would trust them to have unbiased research. It certainly conflicts with Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

Police Detectives make the list (after truck drivers, cashiers, construction workers and many others). The main hazard of being a detective? Car crashes, same as truck drivers. Firefighters don’t even make the list. Apparently Barbeque at the station, runs at the park, and very occasionally running into a burning building is not so dangerous as many believe.

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfar0020.pdf

[jonnycsd]

The Police Policy Studies Council? Who funds them, the Police Unions? Not sure that I would trust them to have unbiased research. It certainly conflicts with Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

Police Detectives make the list (after truck drivers, cashiers, construction workers and many others). The main hazard of being a detective? Car crashes, same as truck drivers. Firefighters don’t even make the list. Apparently Barbeque at the station, runs at the park, and very occasionally running into a burning building is not so dangerous as many believe.

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfar0020.pdf

[jonnycsd]

The Police Policy Studies Council? Who funds them, the Police Unions? Not sure that I would trust them to have unbiased research. It certainly conflicts with Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

Police Detectives make the list (after truck drivers, cashiers, construction workers and many others). The main hazard of being a detective? Car crashes, same as truck drivers. Firefighters don’t even make the list. Apparently Barbeque at the station, runs at the park, and very occasionally running into a burning building is not so dangerous as many believe.

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfar0020.pdf

[j]

I do not buy that stat. A 13 year spread between studies? I thought ±4% was the largest error any respected organization would use. That error would be ± 11.7% if 60 is the average life expectancy.

Remember what Samuel Clemens said,”there are lies, damned lies, and statistics”.

[j]

I do not buy that stat. A 13 year spread between studies? I thought ±4% was the largest error any respected organization would use. That error would be ± 11.7% if 60 is the average life expectancy.

Remember what Samuel Clemens said,”there are lies, damned lies, and statistics”.

[j]

I do not buy that stat. A 13 year spread between studies? I thought ±4% was the largest error any respected organization would use. That error would be ± 11.7% if 60 is the average life expectancy.

Remember what Samuel Clemens said,”there are lies, damned lies, and statistics”.

[j]

I do not buy that stat. A 13 year spread between studies? I thought ±4% was the largest error any respected organization would use. That error would be ± 11.7% if 60 is the average life expectancy.

Remember what Samuel Clemens said,”there are lies, damned lies, and statistics”.

[j]

I do not buy that stat. A 13 year spread between studies? I thought ±4% was the largest error any respected organization would use. That error would be ± 11.7% if 60 is the average life expectancy.

Remember what Samuel Clemens said,”there are lies, damned lies, and statistics”.

[temeculaguy]

Aecitia, I’ve tried, it’s just not worth it trying to explain, but I’ll try again because I’m bored. And to the reference about the deadliest jobs, on the job injuries and lifespan into retirement are two different things. When figuring out pensions it matters. Career military and career law enforcement have very short retirements. That multi year spread was about different studies, the shortest being 53, the longest 66 or something like that, it has more to do with small town midwest cops and metro area cops, they have a bit of a different experience. The spread was not a single study but different ones, they do not apply to people who did the job for a few years and the military studies do not refer to the 4 or 6 year hitch, they refer to the lifers, the ones that pull the pensions everyone hates. Cold reality, they die pretty quick because they didn’t live the life you live. Because the emotional wounds get them later in life but not too much later.

The pensions are totally geeked up and they are being changed, 20 years ago we didn’t have this problem and cops/fire/military all had those types of pensions, where it got out of hand was they extended those “safety” pension perks to the non safety people, in every part of the governement who greatly outnumnber the safety people and live normal lives into retirement because they sleep at night, their biggest stress is the fax machine and they never miss a holiday or event with their kids.

I don’t know who Samuel Clemmens is, but more than likely he has never held a five year old girl in his arms while she died and then had to tell her parents and a hundred other things that eat away at you, and each time calling his own kids to tell them he will be missing the school play or christmas, again. These things change you, and untimatley contribute to an early date with your maker, so his opinion mens Sh*& to me.

Do i have to reset my band of brothers rant, can i double dog dare any of you to complain about the 50 years of free medical care the 101st airborne wwII vets received, okay I will, watch the episode on bastonge (battle of the bulge) go to your bathroom mirror, say these words “It is unfortunate I am not as brave as those men.” Then slap yourself in the face, apologize to yourself for being such a pussy and say that “I will never begrudge the benefits to heroes until I can muster the guts to become one.”

[temeculaguy]

Aecitia, I’ve tried, it’s just not worth it trying to explain, but I’ll try again because I’m bored. And to the reference about the deadliest jobs, on the job injuries and lifespan into retirement are two different things. When figuring out pensions it matters. Career military and career law enforcement have very short retirements. That multi year spread was about different studies, the shortest being 53, the longest 66 or something like that, it has more to do with small town midwest cops and metro area cops, they have a bit of a different experience. The spread was not a single study but different ones, they do not apply to people who did the job for a few years and the military studies do not refer to the 4 or 6 year hitch, they refer to the lifers, the ones that pull the pensions everyone hates. Cold reality, they die pretty quick because they didn’t live the life you live. Because the emotional wounds get them later in life but not too much later.

The pensions are totally geeked up and they are being changed, 20 years ago we didn’t have this problem and cops/fire/military all had those types of pensions, where it got out of hand was they extended those “safety” pension perks to the non safety people, in every part of the governement who greatly outnumnber the safety people and live normal lives into retirement because they sleep at night, their biggest stress is the fax machine and they never miss a holiday or event with their kids.

I don’t know who Samuel Clemmens is, but more than likely he has never held a five year old girl in his arms while she died and then had to tell her parents and a hundred other things that eat away at you, and each time calling his own kids to tell them he will be missing the school play or christmas, again. These things change you, and untimatley contribute to an early date with your maker, so his opinion mens Sh*& to me.

Do i have to reset my band of brothers rant, can i double dog dare any of you to complain about the 50 years of free medical care the 101st airborne wwII vets received, okay I will, watch the episode on bastonge (battle of the bulge) go to your bathroom mirror, say these words “It is unfortunate I am not as brave as those men.” Then slap yourself in the face, apologize to yourself for being such a pussy and say that “I will never begrudge the benefits to heroes until I can muster the guts to become one.”

[temeculaguy]

Aecitia, I’ve tried, it’s just not worth it trying to explain, but I’ll try again because I’m bored. And to the reference about the deadliest jobs, on the job injuries and lifespan into retirement are two different things. When figuring out pensions it matters. Career military and career law enforcement have very short retirements. That multi year spread was about different studies, the shortest being 53, the longest 66 or something like that, it has more to do with small town midwest cops and metro area cops, they have a bit of a different experience. The spread was not a single study but different ones, they do not apply to people who did the job for a few years and the military studies do not refer to the 4 or 6 year hitch, they refer to the lifers, the ones that pull the pensions everyone hates. Cold reality, they die pretty quick because they didn’t live the life you live. Because the emotional wounds get them later in life but not too much later.

The pensions are totally geeked up and they are being changed, 20 years ago we didn’t have this problem and cops/fire/military all had those types of pensions, where it got out of hand was they extended those “safety” pension perks to the non safety people, in every part of the governement who greatly outnumnber the safety people and live normal lives into retirement because they sleep at night, their biggest stress is the fax machine and they never miss a holiday or event with their kids.

I don’t know who Samuel Clemmens is, but more than likely he has never held a five year old girl in his arms while she died and then had to tell her parents and a hundred other things that eat away at you, and each time calling his own kids to tell them he will be missing the school play or christmas, again. These things change you, and untimatley contribute to an early date with your maker, so his opinion mens Sh*& to me.

Do i have to reset my band of brothers rant, can i double dog dare any of you to complain about the 50 years of free medical care the 101st airborne wwII vets received, okay I will, watch the episode on bastonge (battle of the bulge) go to your bathroom mirror, say these words “It is unfortunate I am not as brave as those men.” Then slap yourself in the face, apologize to yourself for being such a pussy and say that “I will never begrudge the benefits to heroes until I can muster the guts to become one.”

[temeculaguy]

Aecitia, I’ve tried, it’s just not worth it trying to explain, but I’ll try again because I’m bored. And to the reference about the deadliest jobs, on the job injuries and lifespan into retirement are two different things. When figuring out pensions it matters. Career military and career law enforcement have very short retirements. That multi year spread was about different studies, the shortest being 53, the longest 66 or something like that, it has more to do with small town midwest cops and metro area cops, they have a bit of a different experience. The spread was not a single study but different ones, they do not apply to people who did the job for a few years and the military studies do not refer to the 4 or 6 year hitch, they refer to the lifers, the ones that pull the pensions everyone hates. Cold reality, they die pretty quick because they didn’t live the life you live. Because the emotional wounds get them later in life but not too much later.

The pensions are totally geeked up and they are being changed, 20 years ago we didn’t have this problem and cops/fire/military all had those types of pensions, where it got out of hand was they extended those “safety” pension perks to the non safety people, in every part of the governement who greatly outnumnber the safety people and live normal lives into retirement because they sleep at night, their biggest stress is the fax machine and they never miss a holiday or event with their kids.

I don’t know who Samuel Clemmens is, but more than likely he has never held a five year old girl in his arms while she died and then had to tell her parents and a hundred other things that eat away at you, and each time calling his own kids to tell them he will be missing the school play or christmas, again. These things change you, and untimatley contribute to an early date with your maker, so his opinion mens Sh*& to me.

Do i have to reset my band of brothers rant, can i double dog dare any of you to complain about the 50 years of free medical care the 101st airborne wwII vets received, okay I will, watch the episode on bastonge (battle of the bulge) go to your bathroom mirror, say these words “It is unfortunate I am not as brave as those men.” Then slap yourself in the face, apologize to yourself for being such a pussy and say that “I will never begrudge the benefits to heroes until I can muster the guts to become one.”

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