Republicans for Impeaching President Bush

[NotCranky]

I like your post “no such” I will read it again. I didn’t understand the “Humble laborer” area of it. I was simply trying to show that mexicans(our primary source of immigrant labor) are every bit as human as we are because there is some attitude in this thread that expresses other sentiments.

I have a problem with the illegal aspect of it too. Take pride ,racism and fear out of it though and the moral dimension of crossing Illegally to work where you truly are wanted and needed, is tiny compared to the moral infractions permeating our system in countless ways. The real injustice is wanting to chew them up and spit them out a vililfy them and make a political issue out of it every time the economy tanks. Some of your examples of how to make adjustments would clearly clean the issue up some if they are possible to implement? Seems like our country has adopted the half ass measures approach to everything.

[NotCranky]

I like your post “no such” I will read it again. I didn’t understand the “Humble laborer” area of it. I was simply trying to show that mexicans(our primary source of immigrant labor) are every bit as human as we are because there is some attitude in this thread that expresses other sentiments.

I have a problem with the illegal aspect of it too. Take pride ,racism and fear out of it though and the moral dimension of crossing Illegally to work where you truly are wanted and needed, is tiny compared to the moral infractions permeating our system in countless ways. The real injustice is wanting to chew them up and spit them out a vililfy them and make a political issue out of it every time the economy tanks. Some of your examples of how to make adjustments would clearly clean the issue up some if they are possible to implement? Seems like our country has adopted the half ass measures approach to everything.

[no_such_reality]

Well, Spanish is my third langauge. And while I’ve been in SoCal a while, I’m still limited to banos, cervesas, food and ?es en fuego sola? It’s bad Spanish, but they usually figure out what I mean.

Maybe I didn’t read intiendo right, I fudged, don’t know that word and couldn’t find a xlate on it.

What you say, makes sense on rereading with your clarification.

[no_such_reality]

Well, Spanish is my third langauge. And while I’ve been in SoCal a while, I’m still limited to banos, cervesas, food and ?es en fuego sola? It’s bad Spanish, but they usually figure out what I mean.

Maybe I didn’t read intiendo right, I fudged, don’t know that word and couldn’t find a xlate on it.

What you say, makes sense on rereading with your clarification.

[NotCranky]

Thanks for taking the time to reread.

[NotCranky]

Thanks for taking the time to reread.

[blahblahblah]

Maybe I didn’t read intiendo right, I fudged, don’t know that word and couldn’t find a xlate on it.

It’s a misspelled first-person conjugation of “entender” (to understand). The correct spelling is “entiendo”.

[blahblahblah]

Maybe I didn’t read intiendo right, I fudged, don’t know that word and couldn’t find a xlate on it.

It’s a misspelled first-person conjugation of “entender” (to understand). The correct spelling is “entiendo”.

[drunkle]

the we dont need another stinking paris hilton taxes: the rockefellers and morgans are still going strong even after surviving decades of stiff inheritance taxation. elimination of the tax would only amount to a paris hilton entitlement and acceleration of corporate consolidation and control of america.

tort reform: just like inflation, tort reform is a con. medical expenses, insurance costs going up because of “frivolous” lawsuits? no, it’s because those lawsuits that are justified and right don’t and can’t go far enough: merck killing people with unsafe drugs is only fined a few bucks. they immediately turn those costs over on future business. rather than… merck getting sued into non-operation and the persons responsible being barred from working in the industry, thereby allowing competition from new and small independants.

illegal immigration: with a wave of the illegal immigration flag, nationalism and racism are immediately stirred, overwhelming the insect-like attention spans of the american people. immigrant employees, legal or illegal are only a problem now because of all the years of union busting and anti-labor policies.

[drunkle]

the we dont need another stinking paris hilton taxes: the rockefellers and morgans are still going strong even after surviving decades of stiff inheritance taxation. elimination of the tax would only amount to a paris hilton entitlement and acceleration of corporate consolidation and control of america.

tort reform: just like inflation, tort reform is a con. medical expenses, insurance costs going up because of “frivolous” lawsuits? no, it’s because those lawsuits that are justified and right don’t and can’t go far enough: merck killing people with unsafe drugs is only fined a few bucks. they immediately turn those costs over on future business. rather than… merck getting sued into non-operation and the persons responsible being barred from working in the industry, thereby allowing competition from new and small independants.

illegal immigration: with a wave of the illegal immigration flag, nationalism and racism are immediately stirred, overwhelming the insect-like attention spans of the american people. immigrant employees, legal or illegal are only a problem now because of all the years of union busting and anti-labor policies.

[NotCranky]

At least I intended the first person! Actually I don’t write in spanish too often.I am pretty fluent. It does surprise me that I stored that one in they grey matter incorrectly. I bet I got away with it in school!
Thanks for the correction Concho
Que pase buen Dia!

[NotCranky]

At least I intended the first person! Actually I don’t write in spanish too often.I am pretty fluent. It does surprise me that I stored that one in they grey matter incorrectly. I bet I got away with it in school!
Thanks for the correction Concho
Que pase buen Dia!

[blahblahblah]

The “death tax” is too funny, the Republican spinmasters named it that so that Alabama Joe Sixpack would think it’s an awful idea and that it needs to go. Little does Alabama Joe Sixpack know that unless he’s got $2M in assets his estate won’t be taxed a penny when he dies. (Alabama Joe Sixpack doesn’t know how to use “the internets” or “the google” to look up the info on the IRS website, so he lets Fox News tell him everything he needs to know). As for those family businesses, they can definitely be stung by it but a good estate plan can help minimize the effects.

How many people in the US even die with a $2M estate? It is so funny that people will vote to get rid of it when all they’ve got is $50K in their 401K. And of course some of the world’s richest men are big supporters of the estate tax.

We’re all doomed!

[blahblahblah]

The “death tax” is too funny, the Republican spinmasters named it that so that Alabama Joe Sixpack would think it’s an awful idea and that it needs to go. Little does Alabama Joe Sixpack know that unless he’s got $2M in assets his estate won’t be taxed a penny when he dies. (Alabama Joe Sixpack doesn’t know how to use “the internets” or “the google” to look up the info on the IRS website, so he lets Fox News tell him everything he needs to know). As for those family businesses, they can definitely be stung by it but a good estate plan can help minimize the effects.

How many people in the US even die with a $2M estate? It is so funny that people will vote to get rid of it when all they’ve got is $50K in their 401K. And of course some of the world’s richest men are big supporters of the estate tax.

We’re all doomed!

[Coronita]

The "death tax" is too funny, the Republican spinmasters named it that so that Alabama Joe Sixpack would think it's an awful idea and that it needs to go. Little does Alabama Joe Sixpack know that unless he's got $2M in assets his estate won't be taxed a penny when he dies. (Alabama Joe Sixpack doesn't know how to use "the internets" or "the google" to look up the info on the IRS website, so he lets Fox News tell him everything he needs to know). As for those family businesses, they can definitely be stung by it but a good estate plan can help minimize the effects. How many people in the US even die with a $2M estate? It is so funny that people will vote to get rid of it when all they've got is $50K in their 401K. And of course some of the world's richest men are big supporters of the estate tax.

 

I disagree, especially if you live in california.

Take your SFH. That itself for is $1million (ok maybe $700k after the decline). Then figure if you're smart you have a $500k life insurance policy for you and another for your spouse. That's $2million. right there. Add in your 401k over your lifetime and your wife's lifetime, how hard is it to really exceed this amount before you are 60? Also, $2million in tomorrow's dollar will be worthless..more like $200k in today's dollars. A lot of you "average" joe's aren't really that below average.The really rich always have loopholes, so this death tax doesn't really matter to them. Yeah, sure you can setup the entire A and B trust thing to get around the $2.5 million. But let's face it, $1million isn't really a lot of money these days. 

The other way I look at it, for those that think th inheritance is "unfair".  Your kids don't deserve an inheritance any less than any of you that were "lucky" to be born with a U.S. citizenship. So I find it hypocritical that the same folks that think an estate inheritance is unfair but at the same time want to crack down on immigrants. If your heirs are really that stupid and lose everything you give to them, that's their stupidity. But I earned this money. I already paid taxes on this money. And I'll be damned if te government tells me what I can do with it upon my death.

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