Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=flyer]Imo, per usual, all of the candidates are selling promises to the masses upon which they can’t deliver–and the masses on both sides of the spectrum are buying into the rhetoric in spades.[/quote]

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[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flyer]
It’s sad to watch all of the conflict fueled by selling these empty
promises–again, on both sides–paired with the desperation of so many people who actually believe any politician can change their lives in any meaningful way.[/quote]

Why do you feel the necessity to add “on both sides”. All that does is enable extremists by saying there’s an equivalent opposite side.

Come on, we are taking about Trump here. He’s been disavowed by the last 2 Republican nominees — John Mc Cain and Mitt Romney. There is no equivalent on the democratic side.

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=flyer]
It’s sad to watch all of the conflict fueled by selling these empty
promises–again, on both sides–paired with the desperation of so many people who actually believe any politician can change their lives in any meaningful way.[/quote]

Why do you feel the necessity to add “on both sides”. All that does is enable extremists by saying there’s an equivalent opposite side.

Come on, we are taking about Trump here. He’s been disavowed by the last 2 Republican nominees — John Mc Cain and Mitt Romney. There is no equivalent on the democratic side.[/quote]
There is an equivalent extreme in the democrat’s politics but you will never see it.

[paramount]

American Spring. It’s here.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Blogstar]
There is an equivalent extreme in the democrat’s politics but you will never see it.[/quote]

The superiority is in keeping your evils caged. Humans are all the same, but keeping your evils in check is what distinguishes the civilized from the barbaric.

Let’s put it this way. A family with well behaved, polite parents and children, where everyone knows her responsibilities and does his job, is better than a family full of drama, vulgarity and disfunction.

[NotCranky]

THe evils have the appearance of being caged….to you.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Blogstar]THe evils have the appearance of being caged….to you.[/quote]

Please point it out if you see more clearly

[zk]

[quote=paramount]American Spring. It’s here.[/quote]

Correct me where I’m wrong, here, paramount:

“American Spring” would be an uprising where patriots overthrow the fascist American government.

You prefer Trump to Obama, and you think Obama is more of a fascist than Trump would be.

Is that all correct?

Is this “American Spring” going to be like the one in 2014 where the “organizers” expected somewhere between 10 million and 30 million patriots but instead somewhere between 10 and 30 patriots showed up? This is the kind of thing I try to save my exclamation points for: Off by a factor of a million! In my 54 years, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone being off by a factor of a million on anything. That’s really quite amazing. And it shows how detached from reality the whole idea really is.

[paramount]

[quote=zk][quote=paramount]American Spring. It’s here.[/quote]

Correct me where I’m wrong, here, paramount:

“American Spring” would be an uprising where patriots overthrow the fascist American government.

You prefer Trump to Obama, and you think Obama is more of a fascist than Trump would be.

Is that all correct?

Is this “American Spring” going to be like the one in 2014 where the “organizers” expected somewhere between 10 million and 30 million patriots but instead somewhere between 10 and 30 patriots showed up? This is the kind of thing I try to save my exclamation points for: Off by a factor of a million! In my 54 years, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone being off by a factor of a million on anything. That’s really quite amazing. And it shows how detached from reality the whole idea really is.[/quote]

The American Spring is different than the Arab Spring.

The American Spring is America embracing anti-establishment candidates. Thoughtful Americans are sick and tired of the establishment.

Football and UFC will only get the establishment elites so far.

There, you’ve been corrected and updated.

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar]THe evils have the appearance of being caged….to you.[/quote]

Please point it out if you see more clearly[/quote]

Been through it too many times with you. Not again. Anyway , WTH would anyone say that evil that simply had the appearance of being caged is evidence of superiority anyway. Ridiculous.

[njtosd]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar]
There is an equivalent extreme in the democrat’s politics but you will never see it.[/quote]

The superiority is in keeping your evils caged. Humans are all the same, but keeping your evils in check is what distinguishes the civilized from the barbaric.

Let’s put it this way. A family with well behaved, polite parents and children, where everyone knows her responsibilities and does his job, is better than a family full of drama, vulgarity and disfunction.[/quote]

I would say that Bill Clinton and his family has exhibited more drama, vulgarity and dysfunction than the Bush family. And do you remember Billy Carter and his eponymous Billy Beer? Or Mike Dukakis’ wife drinking rubbing alcohol? The Obamas have been pretty much picture perfect, though dull. If you are trying to identify the Dems as the well behaved ones, you’re being charitable. Politicians on both sides of the divide are a fantastic source of the bad behavior you so despise. Frankly I wouldn’t want any of them as neighbors.

[Coronita]

[quote=paramount]

The American Spring is different than the Arab Spring.

The American Spring is America embracing anti-establishment candidates. Thoughtful Americans are sick and tired of the establishment.

Football and UFC will only get the establishment elites so far.

There, you’ve been corrected and updated.[/quote]

Some racist americans are sick and tired of seeing non-whites doing better than them and need Trump to reign non whites through laws that deliberately slows them down or turn them away.

Here’s a litmus test if you are a racist.
If you equate H1-B to indian and asians, you’re conveniently glossing over all the whites from Russia and Eastern Europe.

There, you’ve been corrected and updated.

[flyer]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=flyer]
It’s sad to watch all of the conflict fueled by selling these empty
promises–again, on both sides–paired with the desperation of so many people who actually believe any politician can change their lives in any meaningful way.[/quote]

Why do you feel the necessity to add “on both sides”. All that does is enable extremists by saying there’s an equivalent opposite side.

Come on, we are taking about Trump here. He’s been disavowed by the last 2 Republican nominees — John Mc Cain and Mitt Romney. There is no equivalent on the democratic side.[/quote]

I added “both sides,” because, as others who have posted have also mentioned, many of us clearly see the qualities you so abhor (caged or otherwise) in other candidates, as well as Trump.

The desperation of the masses (on both sides) to crown a political savior is unlike anything I have seen in my lifetime, and clearly illustrates how hopeless millions of people feel about life.

Blatant empty promises are now, more than ever, the lifeblood of most campaigns, and the electorate mere pawns in a game that, at its core, has little, if anything to do with sincere intentions of changing the destinies of most Americans.

Sadly, most will find, after the fact, that their lives were not transformed as promised, and the cycle will begin again.

[zk]

[quote=paramount]
The American Spring is different than the Arab Spring.

The American Spring is America embracing anti-establishment candidates.
[/quote]

Fair enough. I couldn’t find anything on your version of American Spring when I googled it. All I really found was this, so this is what I thought you were talking about:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-zombeck/operation-american-spring_b_5345686.html

[quote=paramount]
Thoughtful Americans are sick and tired of the establishment.

[/quote]

Thoughtful Americans? Hmm.

“Thoughtful Americans for Trump”

That would be a good motto for his campaign. It really captures his style and that of his followers. And, bonus, for his followers, it could be a code word/dog whistle. Thoughtful=white.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flyer]
I added “both sides,” because, as others who have posted have also mentioned, many of us clearly see the qualities you so abhor (caged or otherwise) in other candidates, as well as Trump.

The desperation of the masses (on both sides) to crown a political savior is unlike anything I have seen in my lifetime, and clearly illustrates how hopeless millions of people feel about life.

Blatant empty promises are now, more than ever, the lifeblood of most campaigns, and the electorate mere pawns in a game that, at its core, has little, if anything to do with sincere intentions of changing the destinies of most Americans.

Sadly, most will find, after the fact, that their lives were not transformed as promised, and the cycle will begin again.[/quote]

There are only 2 candidates on the democratic side.

One maybe tempted say that sanders is like trump. But Sanders is not like Trump.
Sanders has young idealistic supporters. Hillary was once an idealistic young woman before she became the establishment.

I don’t think we can lump everyone together. It would be like saying all wines are the same — they all contain alcohol, and made of grape. Some wines are clearly superior.
There are qualitative differences; and smart, perceptive people recognize the differences.

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