OT: Why do Hispanics and Asians trent heavily to Clinton

[drunkle]

rice:

that’s interesting about the black students… i saw a program on tv that was discussing attitudes amoung children towards black and white images. the kids were shown cartoon drawings and asked what they thought was going on. the drawings were done in two ways, one with a black character and one with a white. the characters were drawn exactly the same, same facial features, clothing, etc, just their skin tone was different. guess what the prevailing outcome was… even amoung the black children.

i suppose counter culture influences can reverse such early prejudices. but there was another bit about discrimination amoung cops that found black officers to be more discriminating than whites against black suspects.

yeah, that stuff was on the tv so… grain of salt.

the funniest thing about the npr report i found was the general stupidity of the electorate. in this case, the “evangelical latinos”. voting republican on the majority basis of religion rather than social justice. there is a distinction between faith and social justice where there shouldn’t be… the whole point of christianity is social justice. this dicotomy is obviously not limited to hispanic evangelicals…

the other point i had to laugh about was where anti immigration rhetoric becoming xenophobic caused them to lean democrat party. as if the republican party of modern era isn’t already the party of xenophobia, as if latinos haven’t already been subject to generations of discrimination, mulatto/mestizo vs pure caucasian/spanish, as if latinos dont discriminate amoungst themselves, mexican vs salvadoran or nicaraguan, etc.

but in all of that, i think of peru’s ex president, fujimori. for a developing country, they apparently are quite advanced in social attitudes.

anyway, the npr report reminded me of a girl i knew back when the grocery stores were on strike. her father was a butcher and on strike and was pissed at the company for cutting health care benefits and such. i totally sympathized with her until i asked her who she and her father voted for. guess… yep, bush. the irony that a union supporter would vote for the party of union busting upper classmen.

bottom line, you really can’t trust the electorate. no matter what race, religion, culture, economic status. people ragging on hillary based on a paparazzi point of view, for instance. people baying “sheeple” while quietly grazing on their own side of the fence… ugh.

[larrylujack]

Illegals vote all the time.

really? where’s the proof?

Chicago has had a history of corrupt voting in the 60s no doubt, but I have not heard of verified evidence that there is widespread voting of illegals. And no, I don’t consider right wing blogs as evidence. You do need ID to vote (I have always been asked for one) and your anecdotal story does not prove that “Illegals vote all the time.”

I think you just hate immigrants cause your lazy or stupid and can’t compete for the low end jobs they take.

[larrylujack]

Illegals vote all the time.

really? where’s the proof?

Chicago has had a history of corrupt voting in the 60s no doubt, but I have not heard of verified evidence that there is widespread voting of illegals. And no, I don’t consider right wing blogs as evidence. You do need ID to vote (I have always been asked for one) and your anecdotal story does not prove that “Illegals vote all the time.”

I think you just hate immigrants cause your lazy or stupid and can’t compete for the low end jobs they take.

[larrylujack]

Illegals vote all the time.

really? where’s the proof?

Chicago has had a history of corrupt voting in the 60s no doubt, but I have not heard of verified evidence that there is widespread voting of illegals. And no, I don’t consider right wing blogs as evidence. You do need ID to vote (I have always been asked for one) and your anecdotal story does not prove that “Illegals vote all the time.”

I think you just hate immigrants cause your lazy or stupid and can’t compete for the low end jobs they take.

[larrylujack]

Illegals vote all the time.

really? where’s the proof?

Chicago has had a history of corrupt voting in the 60s no doubt, but I have not heard of verified evidence that there is widespread voting of illegals. And no, I don’t consider right wing blogs as evidence. You do need ID to vote (I have always been asked for one) and your anecdotal story does not prove that “Illegals vote all the time.”

I think you just hate immigrants cause your lazy or stupid and can’t compete for the low end jobs they take.

[larrylujack]

Illegals vote all the time.

really? where’s the proof?

Chicago has had a history of corrupt voting in the 60s no doubt, but I have not heard of verified evidence that there is widespread voting of illegals. And no, I don’t consider right wing blogs as evidence. You do need ID to vote (I have always been asked for one) and your anecdotal story does not prove that “Illegals vote all the time.”

I think you just hate immigrants cause your lazy or stupid and can’t compete for the low end jobs they take.

[bsrsharma]

What is the Quid Pro Quo for illegals to vote? Plenty of Citizens don’t care to vote knowing full well they are selecting the national leaders. What does an illegal, who has no clue, probably doesn’t know the language of the ballot or instructions, get by wasting his/her time to engage in a completely meaningless ritual? Unless someone can show there is vote buying for cash/kind, these allegations are red herrings (and probably thinly veiled racism against Hispanic political activism). One can fully be opposed to illegal immigration without becoming an “illegal voting” alarmist.

[bsrsharma]

What is the Quid Pro Quo for illegals to vote? Plenty of Citizens don’t care to vote knowing full well they are selecting the national leaders. What does an illegal, who has no clue, probably doesn’t know the language of the ballot or instructions, get by wasting his/her time to engage in a completely meaningless ritual? Unless someone can show there is vote buying for cash/kind, these allegations are red herrings (and probably thinly veiled racism against Hispanic political activism). One can fully be opposed to illegal immigration without becoming an “illegal voting” alarmist.

[bsrsharma]

What is the Quid Pro Quo for illegals to vote? Plenty of Citizens don’t care to vote knowing full well they are selecting the national leaders. What does an illegal, who has no clue, probably doesn’t know the language of the ballot or instructions, get by wasting his/her time to engage in a completely meaningless ritual? Unless someone can show there is vote buying for cash/kind, these allegations are red herrings (and probably thinly veiled racism against Hispanic political activism). One can fully be opposed to illegal immigration without becoming an “illegal voting” alarmist.

[bsrsharma]

What is the Quid Pro Quo for illegals to vote? Plenty of Citizens don’t care to vote knowing full well they are selecting the national leaders. What does an illegal, who has no clue, probably doesn’t know the language of the ballot or instructions, get by wasting his/her time to engage in a completely meaningless ritual? Unless someone can show there is vote buying for cash/kind, these allegations are red herrings (and probably thinly veiled racism against Hispanic political activism). One can fully be opposed to illegal immigration without becoming an “illegal voting” alarmist.

[bsrsharma]

What is the Quid Pro Quo for illegals to vote? Plenty of Citizens don’t care to vote knowing full well they are selecting the national leaders. What does an illegal, who has no clue, probably doesn’t know the language of the ballot or instructions, get by wasting his/her time to engage in a completely meaningless ritual? Unless someone can show there is vote buying for cash/kind, these allegations are red herrings (and probably thinly veiled racism against Hispanic political activism). One can fully be opposed to illegal immigration without becoming an “illegal voting” alarmist.

[boyle_heights]

You say you are not a racist but state: So whining may be slightly justified by some……..who are carrying 50,000 in school loans while their hispanic buddy has none……(FYI, I have no school loans).

Then you say you are not racist again then state: Hispanics are probably voting for Clinton because she wants to put a freeze on foreclosures and bail everyone out.

Sounds like a racist to me.

Latinos voted for Hillary because they know more about her than they know about Obama. Obama himself has stated that he reached out to the Latino community too late.

As for bailouts, who is it really helping? Latinos have one of the lowest home ownership rates among the different races. Who does it benefit by allowing Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac to purchase loans at 700K+? How many Latino families will benefit from that?

I am Latino. Graduated from USC. Voted for Obama.

Using your logic I should be able to whine. I had 50k in loans and you had none. It must mean you got government handouts.

[boyle_heights]

You say you are not a racist but state: So whining may be slightly justified by some……..who are carrying 50,000 in school loans while their hispanic buddy has none……(FYI, I have no school loans).

Then you say you are not racist again then state: Hispanics are probably voting for Clinton because she wants to put a freeze on foreclosures and bail everyone out.

Sounds like a racist to me.

Latinos voted for Hillary because they know more about her than they know about Obama. Obama himself has stated that he reached out to the Latino community too late.

As for bailouts, who is it really helping? Latinos have one of the lowest home ownership rates among the different races. Who does it benefit by allowing Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac to purchase loans at 700K+? How many Latino families will benefit from that?

I am Latino. Graduated from USC. Voted for Obama.

Using your logic I should be able to whine. I had 50k in loans and you had none. It must mean you got government handouts.

[boyle_heights]

You say you are not a racist but state: So whining may be slightly justified by some……..who are carrying 50,000 in school loans while their hispanic buddy has none……(FYI, I have no school loans).

Then you say you are not racist again then state: Hispanics are probably voting for Clinton because she wants to put a freeze on foreclosures and bail everyone out.

Sounds like a racist to me.

Latinos voted for Hillary because they know more about her than they know about Obama. Obama himself has stated that he reached out to the Latino community too late.

As for bailouts, who is it really helping? Latinos have one of the lowest home ownership rates among the different races. Who does it benefit by allowing Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac to purchase loans at 700K+? How many Latino families will benefit from that?

I am Latino. Graduated from USC. Voted for Obama.

Using your logic I should be able to whine. I had 50k in loans and you had none. It must mean you got government handouts.

[boyle_heights]

You say you are not a racist but state: So whining may be slightly justified by some……..who are carrying 50,000 in school loans while their hispanic buddy has none……(FYI, I have no school loans).

Then you say you are not racist again then state: Hispanics are probably voting for Clinton because she wants to put a freeze on foreclosures and bail everyone out.

Sounds like a racist to me.

Latinos voted for Hillary because they know more about her than they know about Obama. Obama himself has stated that he reached out to the Latino community too late.

As for bailouts, who is it really helping? Latinos have one of the lowest home ownership rates among the different races. Who does it benefit by allowing Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac to purchase loans at 700K+? How many Latino families will benefit from that?

I am Latino. Graduated from USC. Voted for Obama.

Using your logic I should be able to whine. I had 50k in loans and you had none. It must mean you got government handouts.

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