OT: What do you folks think about the octet mom?

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[quote=CA renter]

I am 100% against taking kids away from their biological families without the family’s permission, unless there is severe abuse/neglect. People don’t realize that the family separation is often more traumatizing than the abuse/neglect itself, so we need to re-think the knee-jerk reaction of “have the state take the kids away” at every turn.

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My statement was not a knee-jerk reaction at every turn. Even you will have to admit this is a way, way, WAY unusual situation.

Let’s see, one person has 14 children under 10. I’m not even sure you can get a daycare license for that ratio!

If seven of those just born were up for adoption, there would be no trauma since those babies are in incubators and have not spent a day with their biological mom.

I don’t think this mother should be rewarded for making a selfish decision like having 8 more kids! If they are taken away by the state, the next woman to think about a similar stunt will likely think twice. If your counterpoint is that she is mentally unstable (likely IMO), that is even MORE reason, not LESS reason, to have the state intervene.

There is absolutely no way that this Mom can care for 14 young children on her own. I’ve been around large families – do you know what happens? The older kids end up raising the younger kids.

Do you think that is fair to the older kids??

[ocrenter]

this woman showed up on kaiser bellflower’s doorstep 20 weeks in and was hospitalized. She was not a kaiser patient. it is very likely that kaiser will be stuck with the bills for the admission and the delivery and the neonatal care of the babies.

[ocrenter]

this woman showed up on kaiser bellflower’s doorstep 20 weeks in and was hospitalized. She was not a kaiser patient. it is very likely that kaiser will be stuck with the bills for the admission and the delivery and the neonatal care of the babies.

[ocrenter]

this woman showed up on kaiser bellflower’s doorstep 20 weeks in and was hospitalized. She was not a kaiser patient. it is very likely that kaiser will be stuck with the bills for the admission and the delivery and the neonatal care of the babies.

[ocrenter]

this woman showed up on kaiser bellflower’s doorstep 20 weeks in and was hospitalized. She was not a kaiser patient. it is very likely that kaiser will be stuck with the bills for the admission and the delivery and the neonatal care of the babies.

[ocrenter]

this woman showed up on kaiser bellflower’s doorstep 20 weeks in and was hospitalized. She was not a kaiser patient. it is very likely that kaiser will be stuck with the bills for the admission and the delivery and the neonatal care of the babies.

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[quote=Russell]Just a rumor, but I heard she is going to become Sarah Palin’s 2012 running mate. [/quote]

That’s classic!

In the same vein:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/02/12/tsr.palin.vs.planned.parenthood.cnn

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[quote=Russell]Just a rumor, but I heard she is going to become Sarah Palin’s 2012 running mate. [/quote]

That’s classic!

In the same vein:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/02/12/tsr.palin.vs.planned.parenthood.cnn

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[quote=Russell]Just a rumor, but I heard she is going to become Sarah Palin’s 2012 running mate. [/quote]

That’s classic!

In the same vein:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/02/12/tsr.palin.vs.planned.parenthood.cnn

[svelte]

[quote=Russell]Just a rumor, but I heard she is going to become Sarah Palin’s 2012 running mate. [/quote]

That’s classic!

In the same vein:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/02/12/tsr.palin.vs.planned.parenthood.cnn

[svelte]

[quote=Russell]Just a rumor, but I heard she is going to become Sarah Palin’s 2012 running mate. [/quote]

That’s classic!

In the same vein:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/02/12/tsr.palin.vs.planned.parenthood.cnn

[socrattt]

This woman is the definition of our country. It shows how we are so dependent upon our government and how our government allows this happen. Guess why we are where we are with today’s economy because of corrupt politicians from both sides of the spectrum that were more concerned about lining their wallets than learning what it takes to keep a successful country running. The last 40 years+ this country has become a government of handouts and donations.

This stimulus won’t stimulate a country that can’t stimulate itself. Until we restructure this country to the extent where handouts are monitored and citizens are held accountable we will be in a long ugly depression.

Sometimes I wish I hadn’t been successful and worked so hard in my life. I have to work twice as hard now just to monitor all my investments and make sure that the next government move doesn’t cost me another chunk of change. Unfortunately I have to worry about much more than any person collecting a free paycheck every month and being comfortable with it! It would be much easier to live with nothing and know that someone was always there to bail me out. We live in a sick society.

[socrattt]

This woman is the definition of our country. It shows how we are so dependent upon our government and how our government allows this happen. Guess why we are where we are with today’s economy because of corrupt politicians from both sides of the spectrum that were more concerned about lining their wallets than learning what it takes to keep a successful country running. The last 40 years+ this country has become a government of handouts and donations.

This stimulus won’t stimulate a country that can’t stimulate itself. Until we restructure this country to the extent where handouts are monitored and citizens are held accountable we will be in a long ugly depression.

Sometimes I wish I hadn’t been successful and worked so hard in my life. I have to work twice as hard now just to monitor all my investments and make sure that the next government move doesn’t cost me another chunk of change. Unfortunately I have to worry about much more than any person collecting a free paycheck every month and being comfortable with it! It would be much easier to live with nothing and know that someone was always there to bail me out. We live in a sick society.

[socrattt]

This woman is the definition of our country. It shows how we are so dependent upon our government and how our government allows this happen. Guess why we are where we are with today’s economy because of corrupt politicians from both sides of the spectrum that were more concerned about lining their wallets than learning what it takes to keep a successful country running. The last 40 years+ this country has become a government of handouts and donations.

This stimulus won’t stimulate a country that can’t stimulate itself. Until we restructure this country to the extent where handouts are monitored and citizens are held accountable we will be in a long ugly depression.

Sometimes I wish I hadn’t been successful and worked so hard in my life. I have to work twice as hard now just to monitor all my investments and make sure that the next government move doesn’t cost me another chunk of change. Unfortunately I have to worry about much more than any person collecting a free paycheck every month and being comfortable with it! It would be much easier to live with nothing and know that someone was always there to bail me out. We live in a sick society.

[socrattt]

This woman is the definition of our country. It shows how we are so dependent upon our government and how our government allows this happen. Guess why we are where we are with today’s economy because of corrupt politicians from both sides of the spectrum that were more concerned about lining their wallets than learning what it takes to keep a successful country running. The last 40 years+ this country has become a government of handouts and donations.

This stimulus won’t stimulate a country that can’t stimulate itself. Until we restructure this country to the extent where handouts are monitored and citizens are held accountable we will be in a long ugly depression.

Sometimes I wish I hadn’t been successful and worked so hard in my life. I have to work twice as hard now just to monitor all my investments and make sure that the next government move doesn’t cost me another chunk of change. Unfortunately I have to worry about much more than any person collecting a free paycheck every month and being comfortable with it! It would be much easier to live with nothing and know that someone was always there to bail me out. We live in a sick society.

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