OT: Wealth Redistribution Experiment

[CardiffBaseball]

Good stuff Raptor. Missed your inspirational postings around here….

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=raptorduck]

As for the “better brain” dialog. Perseverance, determination, and motivation are more valuable than genius, talent, and skill. It is true that you did nothing to get your genius, but struggle gives you the more valuable gifts anyway. The world is full of underachieving geniuses and educated derelicts. I am no genius, but I if you are twice as smart and I work 10 times as hard, I may just end up ahead.[/quote]

Yeah you’re a real hero, all right.

I consider it unlikely that you could do the same thing today, without government assistance.

FYI, college aid is government assistance.

The cheap food we have in the US is priced based on government assistance to food producers (thats why California exports Valencia oranges to Valencia Spain).

The cheap gas we have in the US is considered by most of the world’s economists to be effectively subsidized since the cost of vehicles to roads and infrastructure is largely hidden from drivers.

At a more broad and general level, the stable market that is the heart of American prosperity is facilitated by the government.

All of these programs are paid for with taxes. Your taxes.

I dare you to show me how a poor kid today could have the fairy-tale life you describe without government assistance.

I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=raptorduck]

As for the “better brain” dialog. Perseverance, determination, and motivation are more valuable than genius, talent, and skill. It is true that you did nothing to get your genius, but struggle gives you the more valuable gifts anyway. The world is full of underachieving geniuses and educated derelicts. I am no genius, but I if you are twice as smart and I work 10 times as hard, I may just end up ahead.[/quote]

Yeah you’re a real hero, all right.

I consider it unlikely that you could do the same thing today, without government assistance.

FYI, college aid is government assistance.

The cheap food we have in the US is priced based on government assistance to food producers (thats why California exports Valencia oranges to Valencia Spain).

The cheap gas we have in the US is considered by most of the world’s economists to be effectively subsidized since the cost of vehicles to roads and infrastructure is largely hidden from drivers.

At a more broad and general level, the stable market that is the heart of American prosperity is facilitated by the government.

All of these programs are paid for with taxes. Your taxes.

I dare you to show me how a poor kid today could have the fairy-tale life you describe without government assistance.

I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=raptorduck]

As for the “better brain” dialog. Perseverance, determination, and motivation are more valuable than genius, talent, and skill. It is true that you did nothing to get your genius, but struggle gives you the more valuable gifts anyway. The world is full of underachieving geniuses and educated derelicts. I am no genius, but I if you are twice as smart and I work 10 times as hard, I may just end up ahead.[/quote]

Yeah you’re a real hero, all right.

I consider it unlikely that you could do the same thing today, without government assistance.

FYI, college aid is government assistance.

The cheap food we have in the US is priced based on government assistance to food producers (thats why California exports Valencia oranges to Valencia Spain).

The cheap gas we have in the US is considered by most of the world’s economists to be effectively subsidized since the cost of vehicles to roads and infrastructure is largely hidden from drivers.

At a more broad and general level, the stable market that is the heart of American prosperity is facilitated by the government.

All of these programs are paid for with taxes. Your taxes.

I dare you to show me how a poor kid today could have the fairy-tale life you describe without government assistance.

I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=raptorduck]

As for the “better brain” dialog. Perseverance, determination, and motivation are more valuable than genius, talent, and skill. It is true that you did nothing to get your genius, but struggle gives you the more valuable gifts anyway. The world is full of underachieving geniuses and educated derelicts. I am no genius, but I if you are twice as smart and I work 10 times as hard, I may just end up ahead.[/quote]

Yeah you’re a real hero, all right.

I consider it unlikely that you could do the same thing today, without government assistance.

FYI, college aid is government assistance.

The cheap food we have in the US is priced based on government assistance to food producers (thats why California exports Valencia oranges to Valencia Spain).

The cheap gas we have in the US is considered by most of the world’s economists to be effectively subsidized since the cost of vehicles to roads and infrastructure is largely hidden from drivers.

At a more broad and general level, the stable market that is the heart of American prosperity is facilitated by the government.

All of these programs are paid for with taxes. Your taxes.

I dare you to show me how a poor kid today could have the fairy-tale life you describe without government assistance.

I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=raptorduck]

As for the “better brain” dialog. Perseverance, determination, and motivation are more valuable than genius, talent, and skill. It is true that you did nothing to get your genius, but struggle gives you the more valuable gifts anyway. The world is full of underachieving geniuses and educated derelicts. I am no genius, but I if you are twice as smart and I work 10 times as hard, I may just end up ahead.[/quote]

Yeah you’re a real hero, all right.

I consider it unlikely that you could do the same thing today, without government assistance.

FYI, college aid is government assistance.

The cheap food we have in the US is priced based on government assistance to food producers (thats why California exports Valencia oranges to Valencia Spain).

The cheap gas we have in the US is considered by most of the world’s economists to be effectively subsidized since the cost of vehicles to roads and infrastructure is largely hidden from drivers.

At a more broad and general level, the stable market that is the heart of American prosperity is facilitated by the government.

All of these programs are paid for with taxes. Your taxes.

I dare you to show me how a poor kid today could have the fairy-tale life you describe without government assistance.

I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.

[an]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.[/quote]
I know quite a few people who came here 15-27 years ago (a little longer than your 20 years limit) with nothing more than the clothes on their backs. Now, they are either engineers, doctors, business owners of businesses that employ as much as 400+ people and have multi-million $ profit. They made it because of hard work, extreme frugality, and great support from family and friends. When your family and friends also have nothing or just a little more than you, but willing to help each other to succeed together, you can go a long way. Also, they did receive government assistance when they first came. However, they try their darnedest to get off it ASAP, through education and frugality. So yes, it’s still doable today to go from rags to riches in America. All it takes is the right mindset.

[an]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.[/quote]
I know quite a few people who came here 15-27 years ago (a little longer than your 20 years limit) with nothing more than the clothes on their backs. Now, they are either engineers, doctors, business owners of businesses that employ as much as 400+ people and have multi-million $ profit. They made it because of hard work, extreme frugality, and great support from family and friends. When your family and friends also have nothing or just a little more than you, but willing to help each other to succeed together, you can go a long way. Also, they did receive government assistance when they first came. However, they try their darnedest to get off it ASAP, through education and frugality. So yes, it’s still doable today to go from rags to riches in America. All it takes is the right mindset.

[an]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.[/quote]
I know quite a few people who came here 15-27 years ago (a little longer than your 20 years limit) with nothing more than the clothes on their backs. Now, they are either engineers, doctors, business owners of businesses that employ as much as 400+ people and have multi-million $ profit. They made it because of hard work, extreme frugality, and great support from family and friends. When your family and friends also have nothing or just a little more than you, but willing to help each other to succeed together, you can go a long way. Also, they did receive government assistance when they first came. However, they try their darnedest to get off it ASAP, through education and frugality. So yes, it’s still doable today to go from rags to riches in America. All it takes is the right mindset.

[an]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.[/quote]
I know quite a few people who came here 15-27 years ago (a little longer than your 20 years limit) with nothing more than the clothes on their backs. Now, they are either engineers, doctors, business owners of businesses that employ as much as 400+ people and have multi-million $ profit. They made it because of hard work, extreme frugality, and great support from family and friends. When your family and friends also have nothing or just a little more than you, but willing to help each other to succeed together, you can go a long way. Also, they did receive government assistance when they first came. However, they try their darnedest to get off it ASAP, through education and frugality. So yes, it’s still doable today to go from rags to riches in America. All it takes is the right mindset.

[an]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.[/quote]
I know quite a few people who came here 15-27 years ago (a little longer than your 20 years limit) with nothing more than the clothes on their backs. Now, they are either engineers, doctors, business owners of businesses that employ as much as 400+ people and have multi-million $ profit. They made it because of hard work, extreme frugality, and great support from family and friends. When your family and friends also have nothing or just a little more than you, but willing to help each other to succeed together, you can go a long way. Also, they did receive government assistance when they first came. However, they try their darnedest to get off it ASAP, through education and frugality. So yes, it’s still doable today to go from rags to riches in America. All it takes is the right mindset.

[tc]

Our health care system is corrupt. I was sitting in on a meeting with some doctors. The speaker said something that shocked me. The presenter said that when he takes an x-ray he makes sure to show it to 4 or 5 other doctors. He said that they could then charge a fee for every doctor that examined them.

[tc]

Our health care system is corrupt. I was sitting in on a meeting with some doctors. The speaker said something that shocked me. The presenter said that when he takes an x-ray he makes sure to show it to 4 or 5 other doctors. He said that they could then charge a fee for every doctor that examined them.

[tc]

Our health care system is corrupt. I was sitting in on a meeting with some doctors. The speaker said something that shocked me. The presenter said that when he takes an x-ray he makes sure to show it to 4 or 5 other doctors. He said that they could then charge a fee for every doctor that examined them.

[tc]

Our health care system is corrupt. I was sitting in on a meeting with some doctors. The speaker said something that shocked me. The presenter said that when he takes an x-ray he makes sure to show it to 4 or 5 other doctors. He said that they could then charge a fee for every doctor that examined them.

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