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October 28, 2015 at 2:50 PM #790782October 28, 2015 at 2:51 PM #790783
scaredyclassic
ParticipantChildhood is over. We no longer make allowances.
October 28, 2015 at 2:53 PM #790784spdrun
ParticipantAs far as the cop — one fewer parasite on the government teat. Hope he goes bankrupt and a real human gets to buy his home at the sheriff’s auction.
October 28, 2015 at 2:57 PM #790785poorgradstudent
ParticipantViolence is only acceptable by teachers and law enforcement to prevent violence. A student who is disruptive but not violent can be threatened with escalating consequences when they don’t obey the rules. Frankly, if the threat of suspension isn’t sufficient to motivate a student’s actions, they probably should face expulsion, for the sake of the other students’ learning experience.
The officer’s actions weren’t appropriate.
October 28, 2015 at 2:57 PM #790786an
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=AN][quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=AN]Why should there be a problem in the first place. Don’t like to learn? Just leave. Save everyone the hassle of dealing with your inconsiderate ass.[/quote]
school is not optional. it’s against the law not to go.[/quote]
And it’s against the law to tell someone to stay home or keep their kid home , out of school permanently too.[/quote]But it’s not against the law to be considerate and keep yourself at home if all you’ll do is disrupt the class and prevent others from learning.[/quote]
Yes that’s a crime. Truancy. U can go to jail.[/quote]Does that law get enforced? I never saw anyone get put in jail on Sr. ditch day. If we don’t enforce it, we should get rid of it. Since only 81% of American graduate on HS anyways, I’m pretty sure 19% had plenty of truancy.
October 28, 2015 at 3:03 PM #790787ltsddd
ParticipantOctober 28, 2015 at 3:09 PM #790788Participantbtw., what’s the role of school cops? Is it even their job to intervene with a non-complying/stubborn student? It’s not a crime is it?
October 28, 2015 at 3:10 PM #790789ParticipantSelective enforcement.
http://laschoolreport.com/la-unified-graduation-rates-fourth-year/
LA Unified graduation rate in 2014 is 67.9%. That mean 32.1% dropped out of school. So, is 1/3 of LA kids get put in jail?
October 28, 2015 at 3:13 PM #790790Participant[quote=ltsdd]btw., what’s the role of school cops? Is it even their job to intervene with a non-complying/stubborn student? It’s not a crime is it?[/quote]
Don’t get me wrong, I think he used excessive force. But it should have NEVER gotten to that point. Blame can be put on both the student and teacher. Why did they even call the school cop in the first place? Is it out of line to expect people to be considerate of others?October 28, 2015 at 5:06 PM #790791no_such_reality
ParticipantStudent slams principal to floor
Cafeteria brawl Sacramento area school, yadda yadda, stuff like this happened when we were kids too, there just weren’t cameras in everybody’s pocket to record it.
October 28, 2015 at 5:49 PM #790792NotCranky
Participant[quote=no_such_reality]Student slams principal to floor
Cafeteria brawl Sacramento area school, yadda yadda, stuff like this happened when we were kids too, there just weren’t cameras in everybody’s pocket to record it.[/quote]
You mean those poor victims of their school slammed the man to the floor and had a big fight in the cafeteria. I bet they are great to try to study next to in home room too. Always blaming the victims. This is a perfect example of the student body making the prison like environment.October 28, 2015 at 6:29 PM #790793zk
Participant[quote=poorgradstudent]Violence is only acceptable by teachers and law enforcement to prevent violence. A student who is disruptive but not violent can be threatened with escalating consequences when they don’t obey the rules. Frankly, if the threat of suspension isn’t sufficient to motivate a student’s actions, they probably should face expulsion, for the sake of the other students’ learning experience.
The officer’s actions weren’t appropriate.[/quote]
The idea of threats of escalating consequences might work, but I believe that option had already passed by the time the officer arrived. If I’m not mistaken, he was brought in for the purpose of removing the student.
October 28, 2015 at 7:33 PM #790795Participant[quote=zk][quote=poorgradstudent]Violence is only acceptable by teachers and law enforcement to prevent violence. A student who is disruptive but not violent can be threatened with escalating consequences when they don’t obey the rules. Frankly, if the threat of suspension isn’t sufficient to motivate a student’s actions, they probably should face expulsion, for the sake of the other students’ learning experience.
The officer’s actions weren’t appropriate.[/quote]
The idea of threats of escalating consequences might work, but I believe that option had already passed by the time the officer arrived. If I’m not mistaken, he was brought in for the purpose of removing the student.[/quote]
Many of these kids are beyond the fuck you expel me stage yet they are still there. They sleep in class, try to have sex, insult and harass each other. Insult the teacher etc, This stuff might mean a walk to the office and back, but once the parent or parents are found to be useless or even abusive , the school and especially the teachers hands are tied. THe teachers give up even trying to send them to the office.
October 28, 2015 at 7:33 PM #790796Participant[quote=zk][quote=poorgradstudent]Violence is only acceptable by teachers and law enforcement to prevent violence. A student who is disruptive but not violent can be threatened with escalating consequences when they don’t obey the rules. Frankly, if the threat of suspension isn’t sufficient to motivate a student’s actions, they probably should face expulsion, for the sake of the other students’ learning experience.
The officer’s actions weren’t appropriate.[/quote]
The idea of threats of escalating consequences might work, but I believe that option had already passed by the time the officer arrived. If I’m not mistaken, he was brought in for the purpose of removing the student.[/quote]
Many of these kids are beyond the fuck you expel me stage yet they are still there. They sleep in class, try to have sex, insult and harass each other. Insult the teacher etc, This stuff might mean a walk to the office and back, but once the parent or parents are found to be useless or even abusive , the school and especially the teachers hands are tied. THe teachers give up even trying to send them to the office.
October 28, 2015 at 7:57 PM #790797ParticipantSchools are stuck in a catch 22. Our PC environment won’t let you flush bad apples from the system and each body in a seat is funding dollars.
I’m cynical, individual teachers may be in it for the kids, but the districts and unions in the public school system are all about the dollars.
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