OT: red light camera ticket for right turn and 0.1 secs

[UCGal]

[quote=sdduuuude]Do they have video ?

Can they prove you didn’t stop before turning right ?[/quote]
Hubster got one at Murphy Canyon and Aero. The photo they sent with the ticket made it look like he was just stopped. He was all set to fight it. Then he got a link to the video – and it was no longer an option to fight it – he rolled the stop at a right turn on red.

It’s a VERY expensive ticket – and even more when you add in traffic school.

I’ve been beyond careful ever since. The $ amount is a serious deterrent.

[Scarlett]

Yes, there is video. Of course I didn’t stop, had no reason to – there was a yellow right turn arrow that I thought I’d make it. But I am pretty sure I was below 15 mph. I did slow down. Not that it matters. 🙁

[Echoooo]

The effect on me is that I try all means to avoid camera monitored intersection just in case the yellow light change to red and I am not reacting fast enough to stop. If can’t avoid at all, I just slow down and hoping the light is red or will change to red before I approach. That way, I happily breathe out and stop. My worst nightmare is the light is green and no car in front of me, then I don’t known when and how fast it will change to yellow.

[PCinSD]

Not a red light ticket, but I was pulled over and ticketed last week for making an illegal u-turn. I’m definitely going to request a court trial. No way would I trust a trial by declaration. I want to talk to the judge and have the officer show up and explain why he can’t read and comprehend the vehicle code. It will be followed up by a letter to the PD with a suggestion that this officer receive some training.

[GH]

We really need to face the fact dangerous drivers should be fined not less that a billion dollars – a serious deterrent. Those who fail to pay will be paid a visit by armed police and they and their families will be dealt with like any other armed and dangerous criminal.

Seriously though…. $500 for rolling a red light on a corner. Have we gone mad?

[all]

[quote=wanttobuy]The effect on me is that I try all means to avoid camera monitored intersection just in case the yellow light change to red and I am not reacting fast enough to stop. If can’t avoid at all, I just slow down and hoping the light is red or will change to red before I approach. That way, I happily breathe out and stop. My worst nightmare is the light is green and no car in front of me, then I don’t known when and how fast it will change to yellow.[/quote]

You should not approach the intersection at speed higher than 25-30mph, which puts your breaking distance at 100ft or less. It should not be that hard to stop if you approach the intersection with the idea that yellow means stop if possible, not speed up.

On the other hand, whenever you get (and pay) a ticket you are doing a good deed by helping the local budget. I gave my $500 to the city of Poway few years back – rolling stop on red, caught on camera 🙂

[Scarlett]

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[Scarlett]

Update:

I used ticketkick.com and I got my ticket dismissed. Let me put it this way – I would have rather paid $200 to the city budget. I was guilty, it would have been fair enough. But $500 was way too much.

Needless to say – since I go through that intersection almost every day on my way to work, I am now slowing way down and prepare to stop anyway all the time. That intersection red light camera flashes off almost at every light cycle!

Anyway, it is a good idea to know where the red light cameras are…

[Coronita]

[quote=Scarlett]Update:

I used ticketkick.com and I got my ticket dismissed. Let me put it this way – I would have rather paid $200 to the city budget. I was guilty, it would have been fair enough. But $500 was way too much.

Needless to say – since I go through that intersection almost every day on my way to work, I am now slowing way down and prepare to stop anyway all the time. That intersection red light camera flashes off almost at every light cycle!

Anyway, it is a good idea to know where the red light cameras are…[/quote]

Consider taking off your front and back license plate. If you get pulled over for it, it’s a cheap “fix it” ticket

[Reality]

Red light runners should be fined more than they are, with license suspensions for subsequent offenses. It’s dangerous.

That said, your rolling through a right turn seems relatively minor. The jackasses I’d like to see nailed are the ones who stretch out the left turn arrow. At Friars and Northside, it seems every time I’m going east on Friars there are 5-6 losers who turn left from the westbound side towards Costco, Ikea, etc, after the light changes.

[NotCranky]

On the subject of tickets fines and speed. I vote for a $1000 fine for anyone who goes over 55 in the slow lane. Anyone who gets caught moving in from the fast lane to pass someone who is already going 65 goes to jail!

[Coronita]

[quote=Jacarandoso]On the subject of tickets fines and speed. I vote for a $1000 fine for anyone who goes over 55 in the slow lane. Anyone who gets caught moving in from the fast lane to pass someone who is already going 65 goes to jail![/quote]

I vote for california changing the carpool lane to a $4000/annual membership paid lane, that requires an addition $2000/annual special class X license that involves extensive written and behind the wheel driving training and test to pass as stringent as the european driving tests, which includes pull into the right lane when someone wants to pass. Then I vote to have the speed limit removed for these membership paid lanes in non-congested areas and where the road condition/weather condition permits, otherwise mandatory speed limits still applies.

Anyone that is caught in the membership lane who isn’t a member or who doesn’t abide to the speed limits rules and or courtesy rules loses his/her membership privilege, spends 360 hrs of community service trash on the freeway, and is court ordered to drive a Yugo for 4 years or not drive at all.

I still sort of agree on the hefty punishment for a stop sign and red light violation. I don’t think though the solution is monetary.. Perhaps mandatory community service…Like hours and hours of it. That way no-so-rich people don’t get hammered economically for mistakes…And rich people don’t laugh it off so easily.

[NotCranky]

Until things change though, Flu, it would be safer if people would stop doing the things I mentioned on the freeway. Pretty fucked up when some one is bobbing a weaving around faster than than the flow of traffic.If they just raced over to the fast lane and tailgated at high speed that wouldn’t be so bad. It is especially stupid when they wantonly race into the first two lanes,where mergers and exits are being negotiated. Not as bad a the woman who recently stopped in the center lane to make a u-turn to the off-ramp, but close.

[Coronita]

[quote=Jacarandoso]Until things change though, Flu, it would be safer if people would stop doing the things I mentioned on the freeway. Pretty fucked up when some one is bobbing a weaving around faster than than the flow of traffic.If they just raced over to the fast lane and tailgated at high speed that wouldn’t be so bad. It is especially stupid when they wantonly race into the first two lanes,where mergers and exits are being negotiated. Not as bad a the woman who recently stopped in the center lane to make a u-turn to the off-ramp, but close.[/quote]

I take it to the track. But I know. I agree.

Part of the reason why I think some of these jerks bob and weave is both sides fault. The bober/weaver is impatient and wants to move faster… But there are people in the faster lane that don’t yield right. I think that CA should enforce the yielding right rule, as much as cops should really crack down on bobber/weavers, particular the ones that do this with very little margin between cars.

Besides that issue, a lot of the U.S. freeways are not in such a good condition to be doing speeds that fast. Road surfaces are terrible.

The idea behind another class of license and another set of lanes, would be to make these for more “experienced” courteous drivers. I think part of the problem is that our driving tests are too much of a joke. Europeans goes through extensive amount of training and testing to get a license, and I believe I read somewhere that they have a much lower accident rate despite higher speed limits… I’m not advocating completely no speed limit, especially in CA, just increasing it in areas where conditions can accomodate. The stretch of 5 around San Ysidro is what I’m thinking of. Some of these more experienced license class would be heavily restricted.. No one under the age of XXX, no one over the age of XXX, and no one with more than XXX driving violations.. Vehicles must be equiped with BA testing.etc.etc.etc. No CUV/SUVs… I’d advocate CUV/SUVS or vehicles above a certain weight requiring a special license class to (driving dynamics way different).

Oh well. It’s CA for crying out loud. Nothing is going to change because of all the special interest groups.

[desmond]

Flu,
I can see it now:
http://life.nationalpost.com/2011/12/05/4m-car-crash-in-japan-takes-out-eight-ferraris-one-lamborghini/

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