OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

afx: The US pursued and prosecuted a successful strategy in Afghanistan prior to the handover to NATO forces. The problem was that the NATO forces, by and large, did not want to fight (the exception being the Canadians).

Most of the NATO forces confine themselves to their own areas of operation and do not actively patrol and do not seek out the Taliban or al-Qaeda forces in battle.

Granted, there are other problems there, the largest being the Karzai government, but the Obama “surge” you reference has been in the planning stages for a while now.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=partypup]

Well gee whiz, that’s the same thing Bush told us when we complained about a bottomless-pit-of-a-war in Iraq, and everyone got up in arms.
[/quote]

You do realize that Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries, right?

Obama has always said that the Iraq War was a mistake (he was one of the few politicians who came out against it before it even started) and that Afghanistan is where the terrorists are and where America should focus it’s military efforts:

Here’s a quote from Obama two months before the election:

“What President Bush and Senator McCain don’t understand is that the central front in the war on terror is not in Iraq, and it never was — the central front is in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists who hit us on 9/11 are still plotting attacks seven years later,” Obama said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/obama-savages-bush-redepl_n_125130.html?page=9&show_comment_id=15511960#comment_15511960

It’s no surprise to me that Obama is redeploying troops to Afghanistan. He’s only been talking about doing that for about two years now.

Why are you surprised at this? Did you not listen to anything Obama said in the two-year campaign?

[TheBreeze]

[quote=partypup]

Well gee whiz, that’s the same thing Bush told us when we complained about a bottomless-pit-of-a-war in Iraq, and everyone got up in arms.
[/quote]

You do realize that Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries, right?

Obama has always said that the Iraq War was a mistake (he was one of the few politicians who came out against it before it even started) and that Afghanistan is where the terrorists are and where America should focus it’s military efforts:

Here’s a quote from Obama two months before the election:

“What President Bush and Senator McCain don’t understand is that the central front in the war on terror is not in Iraq, and it never was — the central front is in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists who hit us on 9/11 are still plotting attacks seven years later,” Obama said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/obama-savages-bush-redepl_n_125130.html?page=9&show_comment_id=15511960#comment_15511960

It’s no surprise to me that Obama is redeploying troops to Afghanistan. He’s only been talking about doing that for about two years now.

Why are you surprised at this? Did you not listen to anything Obama said in the two-year campaign?

[TheBreeze]

[quote=partypup]

Well gee whiz, that’s the same thing Bush told us when we complained about a bottomless-pit-of-a-war in Iraq, and everyone got up in arms.
[/quote]

You do realize that Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries, right?

Obama has always said that the Iraq War was a mistake (he was one of the few politicians who came out against it before it even started) and that Afghanistan is where the terrorists are and where America should focus it’s military efforts:

Here’s a quote from Obama two months before the election:

“What President Bush and Senator McCain don’t understand is that the central front in the war on terror is not in Iraq, and it never was — the central front is in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists who hit us on 9/11 are still plotting attacks seven years later,” Obama said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/obama-savages-bush-redepl_n_125130.html?page=9&show_comment_id=15511960#comment_15511960

It’s no surprise to me that Obama is redeploying troops to Afghanistan. He’s only been talking about doing that for about two years now.

Why are you surprised at this? Did you not listen to anything Obama said in the two-year campaign?

[TheBreeze]

[quote=partypup]

Well gee whiz, that’s the same thing Bush told us when we complained about a bottomless-pit-of-a-war in Iraq, and everyone got up in arms.
[/quote]

You do realize that Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries, right?

Obama has always said that the Iraq War was a mistake (he was one of the few politicians who came out against it before it even started) and that Afghanistan is where the terrorists are and where America should focus it’s military efforts:

Here’s a quote from Obama two months before the election:

“What President Bush and Senator McCain don’t understand is that the central front in the war on terror is not in Iraq, and it never was — the central front is in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists who hit us on 9/11 are still plotting attacks seven years later,” Obama said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/obama-savages-bush-redepl_n_125130.html?page=9&show_comment_id=15511960#comment_15511960

It’s no surprise to me that Obama is redeploying troops to Afghanistan. He’s only been talking about doing that for about two years now.

Why are you surprised at this? Did you not listen to anything Obama said in the two-year campaign?

[TheBreeze]

[quote=partypup]

Well gee whiz, that’s the same thing Bush told us when we complained about a bottomless-pit-of-a-war in Iraq, and everyone got up in arms.
[/quote]

You do realize that Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries, right?

Obama has always said that the Iraq War was a mistake (he was one of the few politicians who came out against it before it even started) and that Afghanistan is where the terrorists are and where America should focus it’s military efforts:

Here’s a quote from Obama two months before the election:

“What President Bush and Senator McCain don’t understand is that the central front in the war on terror is not in Iraq, and it never was — the central front is in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the terrorists who hit us on 9/11 are still plotting attacks seven years later,” Obama said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/obama-savages-bush-redepl_n_125130.html?page=9&show_comment_id=15511960#comment_15511960

It’s no surprise to me that Obama is redeploying troops to Afghanistan. He’s only been talking about doing that for about two years now.

Why are you surprised at this? Did you not listen to anything Obama said in the two-year campaign?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Well, if you’re going to cull quotes from that lefty wag, The HuffPost, I’m going to cull quotes from that righty rag, the WSJ. Attached is an op-ed piece on Obama and Iraq and it makes for interesting reading.

Breeze, you should (and I’m being serious now) go back and look at how Obama has “reshaped his narrative” on Iraq. Look at where he started, in terms of discussing the withdrawal and drawdown, and look at where he is RIGHT NOW. Then we can intelligently discuss where, exactly, the central front in the war is and what his future plans actually look like.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123302008756518061.html

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Well, if you’re going to cull quotes from that lefty wag, The HuffPost, I’m going to cull quotes from that righty rag, the WSJ. Attached is an op-ed piece on Obama and Iraq and it makes for interesting reading.

Breeze, you should (and I’m being serious now) go back and look at how Obama has “reshaped his narrative” on Iraq. Look at where he started, in terms of discussing the withdrawal and drawdown, and look at where he is RIGHT NOW. Then we can intelligently discuss where, exactly, the central front in the war is and what his future plans actually look like.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123302008756518061.html

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Well, if you’re going to cull quotes from that lefty wag, The HuffPost, I’m going to cull quotes from that righty rag, the WSJ. Attached is an op-ed piece on Obama and Iraq and it makes for interesting reading.

Breeze, you should (and I’m being serious now) go back and look at how Obama has “reshaped his narrative” on Iraq. Look at where he started, in terms of discussing the withdrawal and drawdown, and look at where he is RIGHT NOW. Then we can intelligently discuss where, exactly, the central front in the war is and what his future plans actually look like.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123302008756518061.html

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Well, if you’re going to cull quotes from that lefty wag, The HuffPost, I’m going to cull quotes from that righty rag, the WSJ. Attached is an op-ed piece on Obama and Iraq and it makes for interesting reading.

Breeze, you should (and I’m being serious now) go back and look at how Obama has “reshaped his narrative” on Iraq. Look at where he started, in terms of discussing the withdrawal and drawdown, and look at where he is RIGHT NOW. Then we can intelligently discuss where, exactly, the central front in the war is and what his future plans actually look like.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123302008756518061.html

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Breeze: Well, if you’re going to cull quotes from that lefty wag, The HuffPost, I’m going to cull quotes from that righty rag, the WSJ. Attached is an op-ed piece on Obama and Iraq and it makes for interesting reading.

Breeze, you should (and I’m being serious now) go back and look at how Obama has “reshaped his narrative” on Iraq. Look at where he started, in terms of discussing the withdrawal and drawdown, and look at where he is RIGHT NOW. Then we can intelligently discuss where, exactly, the central front in the war is and what his future plans actually look like.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123302008756518061.html

[TheBreeze]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Granted, there are other problems there, the largest being the Karzai government, but the Obama “surge” you reference has been in the planning stages for a while now.[/quote]

No it hasn’t. George W. McSame was talking about sending a paltry 4500 troops to Afghanistan. Obama just ordered the redeployment of 18,000 Marines with many more to come.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/obama-savages-bush-redepl_n_125130.html?page=9&show_comment_id=15511960#comment_15511960

Saying that Obama is following the same plan laid out by Bush is like saying that a 1 KM Race-Walk with all elderly participants is equivalent to an Olympic Marathon. Are you sure you’re not a right-wing nutjob? You have about the same ability to distinguish between massive differences as a righty.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Granted, there are other problems there, the largest being the Karzai government, but the Obama “surge” you reference has been in the planning stages for a while now.[/quote]

No it hasn’t. George W. McSame was talking about sending a paltry 4500 troops to Afghanistan. Obama just ordered the redeployment of 18,000 Marines with many more to come.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/obama-savages-bush-redepl_n_125130.html?page=9&show_comment_id=15511960#comment_15511960

Saying that Obama is following the same plan laid out by Bush is like saying that a 1 KM Race-Walk with all elderly participants is equivalent to an Olympic Marathon. Are you sure you’re not a right-wing nutjob? You have about the same ability to distinguish between massive differences as a righty.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Granted, there are other problems there, the largest being the Karzai government, but the Obama “surge” you reference has been in the planning stages for a while now.[/quote]

No it hasn’t. George W. McSame was talking about sending a paltry 4500 troops to Afghanistan. Obama just ordered the redeployment of 18,000 Marines with many more to come.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/obama-savages-bush-redepl_n_125130.html?page=9&show_comment_id=15511960#comment_15511960

Saying that Obama is following the same plan laid out by Bush is like saying that a 1 KM Race-Walk with all elderly participants is equivalent to an Olympic Marathon. Are you sure you’re not a right-wing nutjob? You have about the same ability to distinguish between massive differences as a righty.

[TheBreeze]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Granted, there are other problems there, the largest being the Karzai government, but the Obama “surge” you reference has been in the planning stages for a while now.[/quote]

No it hasn’t. George W. McSame was talking about sending a paltry 4500 troops to Afghanistan. Obama just ordered the redeployment of 18,000 Marines with many more to come.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/obama-savages-bush-redepl_n_125130.html?page=9&show_comment_id=15511960#comment_15511960

Saying that Obama is following the same plan laid out by Bush is like saying that a 1 KM Race-Walk with all elderly participants is equivalent to an Olympic Marathon. Are you sure you’re not a right-wing nutjob? You have about the same ability to distinguish between massive differences as a righty.

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