OT: “Obama administration warns public to expect rise in US casualties”

[Allan from Fallbrook]

afx: Couldn’t agree more. We now argue over left versus right, Repub or Dem and, in so doing, miss the big picture.

Which is probably exactly the way the powers that be want it.

There is something truly enjoyable about a good, feisty dialogue and something truly hateful about the way discourse (or lack of it) is now conducted.

We’re all Americans, and the safety, security and prosperity of this country includes and involves all of us. Yet here we sit, throwing mud at each other and arguing over something that, in truth, we can do little to control, largely because we’ve so completely submitted to the arbitrary whims of the idiots we elected. And, yeah, that includes Obama.

[NotCranky]

I am not an assassin, If the shoe doesn’t fit don’t wear it. From what I see and hear, it fits a lot of people. It should be a worthy topic of discussion even if it isn’t perfectly accurate.

Enorah,
My contribution is not kill or be killed. I don’t think we can move on to collaboration and unity while we tolerate status quo foriegn policy and the whole bunch of socially codified behaviors that enforce tolerance for it.Especially when a major successful component of the war making ruling class is to conquer and divide us, which is working. We don’t stand up for other people in the world in light of what our goverment, surrounded by the good people of a Christian God and a million flags, does to them. We shop, worry, fret, buy,and hope this recession isn’t too tough and that Jesus loves us.We vote for the person who we think will make that easier and don’t really give a damn about too much else. We deserve the government we have for tolerating what they do to others . Anyway nobody will respond to my posts for a while,I’ve broken the rules, I guess that’s gonna hurt a bit.

[NotCranky]

I am not an assassin, If the shoe doesn’t fit don’t wear it. From what I see and hear, it fits a lot of people. It should be a worthy topic of discussion even if it isn’t perfectly accurate.

Enorah,
My contribution is not kill or be killed. I don’t think we can move on to collaboration and unity while we tolerate status quo foriegn policy and the whole bunch of socially codified behaviors that enforce tolerance for it.Especially when a major successful component of the war making ruling class is to conquer and divide us, which is working. We don’t stand up for other people in the world in light of what our goverment, surrounded by the good people of a Christian God and a million flags, does to them. We shop, worry, fret, buy,and hope this recession isn’t too tough and that Jesus loves us.We vote for the person who we think will make that easier and don’t really give a damn about too much else. We deserve the government we have for tolerating what they do to others . Anyway nobody will respond to my posts for a while,I’ve broken the rules, I guess that’s gonna hurt a bit.

[NotCranky]

I am not an assassin, If the shoe doesn’t fit don’t wear it. From what I see and hear, it fits a lot of people. It should be a worthy topic of discussion even if it isn’t perfectly accurate.

Enorah,
My contribution is not kill or be killed. I don’t think we can move on to collaboration and unity while we tolerate status quo foriegn policy and the whole bunch of socially codified behaviors that enforce tolerance for it.Especially when a major successful component of the war making ruling class is to conquer and divide us, which is working. We don’t stand up for other people in the world in light of what our goverment, surrounded by the good people of a Christian God and a million flags, does to them. We shop, worry, fret, buy,and hope this recession isn’t too tough and that Jesus loves us.We vote for the person who we think will make that easier and don’t really give a damn about too much else. We deserve the government we have for tolerating what they do to others . Anyway nobody will respond to my posts for a while,I’ve broken the rules, I guess that’s gonna hurt a bit.

[NotCranky]

I am not an assassin, If the shoe doesn’t fit don’t wear it. From what I see and hear, it fits a lot of people. It should be a worthy topic of discussion even if it isn’t perfectly accurate.

Enorah,
My contribution is not kill or be killed. I don’t think we can move on to collaboration and unity while we tolerate status quo foriegn policy and the whole bunch of socially codified behaviors that enforce tolerance for it.Especially when a major successful component of the war making ruling class is to conquer and divide us, which is working. We don’t stand up for other people in the world in light of what our goverment, surrounded by the good people of a Christian God and a million flags, does to them. We shop, worry, fret, buy,and hope this recession isn’t too tough and that Jesus loves us.We vote for the person who we think will make that easier and don’t really give a damn about too much else. We deserve the government we have for tolerating what they do to others . Anyway nobody will respond to my posts for a while,I’ve broken the rules, I guess that’s gonna hurt a bit.

[NotCranky]

I am not an assassin, If the shoe doesn’t fit don’t wear it. From what I see and hear, it fits a lot of people. It should be a worthy topic of discussion even if it isn’t perfectly accurate.

Enorah,
My contribution is not kill or be killed. I don’t think we can move on to collaboration and unity while we tolerate status quo foriegn policy and the whole bunch of socially codified behaviors that enforce tolerance for it.Especially when a major successful component of the war making ruling class is to conquer and divide us, which is working. We don’t stand up for other people in the world in light of what our goverment, surrounded by the good people of a Christian God and a million flags, does to them. We shop, worry, fret, buy,and hope this recession isn’t too tough and that Jesus loves us.We vote for the person who we think will make that easier and don’t really give a damn about too much else. We deserve the government we have for tolerating what they do to others . Anyway nobody will respond to my posts for a while,I’ve broken the rules, I guess that’s gonna hurt a bit.

[NeetaT]

Good!!!!!

[NeetaT]

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[NeetaT]

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[NeetaT]

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[NeetaT]

Good!!!!!

[partypup]

[quote=arraya]Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it.

To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”

A:

I am framing this quote. Stunning in its simplicity and veracity.
-Micheal Rivero[/quote]

[partypup]

[quote=arraya]Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it.

To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”

A:

I am framing this quote. Stunning in its simplicity and veracity.
-Micheal Rivero[/quote]

[partypup]

[quote=arraya]Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it.

To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”

A:

I am framing this quote. Stunning in its simplicity and veracity.
-Micheal Rivero[/quote]

[partypup]

[quote=arraya]Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it.

To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”

A:

I am framing this quote. Stunning in its simplicity and veracity.
-Micheal Rivero[/quote]

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