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February 6, 2009 at 10:29 PM #342914February 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM #342415CA renterParticipant
Three kids here. It definitely affects how we see the world right now.
Also enjoyed the story about your uncle, Allan. Thanks for giving us a brighter way to look at things.
February 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM #342737CA renterParticipantThree kids here. It definitely affects how we see the world right now.
Also enjoyed the story about your uncle, Allan. Thanks for giving us a brighter way to look at things.
February 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM #342845CA renterParticipantThree kids here. It definitely affects how we see the world right now.
Also enjoyed the story about your uncle, Allan. Thanks for giving us a brighter way to look at things.
February 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM #342872CA renterParticipantThree kids here. It definitely affects how we see the world right now.
Also enjoyed the story about your uncle, Allan. Thanks for giving us a brighter way to look at things.
February 7, 2009 at 2:38 AM #342969CA renterParticipantThree kids here. It definitely affects how we see the world right now.
Also enjoyed the story about your uncle, Allan. Thanks for giving us a brighter way to look at things.
February 7, 2009 at 9:13 AM #342479NotCrankyParticipant[quote=arraya]Gandalf-I come to piggington with a radical voice for a reason. To let everybody know things are not going to be the same in the future. Despite the tone of my post I am very optimistic. However, optimism is contingent on where you place you bets. I don’t bet on this current zeitgeist to last.
We need creativity to devise a new type of economy. It’s not coming out of DC. My fear is the USG is not as keystone cop-esque as perceived at least not in the depths of the Pentagon, federal reserve and intelligence agencies. I think the people should have a say what ever social and economic structure emerges. It should not be stumbled upon via crisis.
We are a myopic species via our evolutionary successes. It just is what has worked for us in the 200K+ years this hybrid hominid species has been wondering the earth.
That needs to end. It’s time for us to grow up and realize the earth has limits and that very much affects our quality of life.
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Good post.
Between the war, the bubbles and the “financial crisis”, one does have to wonder if there is more of an intentional component to this “misery”. With the war it is obvious, but what about the rest of it. Why would TPTB be so reckless?I have thought for a while that some of TPTB saw some writing on the wall, social changes coming that would affect the ruling class, etc. and hit the panic button, or a few of them.
Things have been so crazy that it begs conspiracy theories.The denial of exceptionally bad economic fundamentals followed almost immediately by dramatic bail outs, especially Paulson’s antics.
Now we Have Cheney making seemingly sinister threats against America.That he is so ready to scapegoat the new president for future attacks on U.S. soil is disgusting.This is not a defense of Obama because I don’t think he will really improve or worsen the odds. It’s just that Cheney is so grotesque.It is probably just part of a lobbying effort for oil and military related interests. The fact that he would be such a bold faced creep about it is mind boggling.
I agree with the idea that we need to grow up and make intentional adjustments. First these people need to be stopped. Second, everyone of us needs to get over being addicted to independent prosperity as the preeminent goal of life,not through forced,expansionist communism, or any nationalistic socialism that begs for a superior standard of living relative to the rest of the globe but voluntarily and in good will.I am not optimistic, even though it seems so easy to do.
February 7, 2009 at 9:13 AM #342802NotCrankyParticipant[quote=arraya]Gandalf-I come to piggington with a radical voice for a reason. To let everybody know things are not going to be the same in the future. Despite the tone of my post I am very optimistic. However, optimism is contingent on where you place you bets. I don’t bet on this current zeitgeist to last.
We need creativity to devise a new type of economy. It’s not coming out of DC. My fear is the USG is not as keystone cop-esque as perceived at least not in the depths of the Pentagon, federal reserve and intelligence agencies. I think the people should have a say what ever social and economic structure emerges. It should not be stumbled upon via crisis.
We are a myopic species via our evolutionary successes. It just is what has worked for us in the 200K+ years this hybrid hominid species has been wondering the earth.
That needs to end. It’s time for us to grow up and realize the earth has limits and that very much affects our quality of life.
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Good post.
Between the war, the bubbles and the “financial crisis”, one does have to wonder if there is more of an intentional component to this “misery”. With the war it is obvious, but what about the rest of it. Why would TPTB be so reckless?I have thought for a while that some of TPTB saw some writing on the wall, social changes coming that would affect the ruling class, etc. and hit the panic button, or a few of them.
Things have been so crazy that it begs conspiracy theories.The denial of exceptionally bad economic fundamentals followed almost immediately by dramatic bail outs, especially Paulson’s antics.
Now we Have Cheney making seemingly sinister threats against America.That he is so ready to scapegoat the new president for future attacks on U.S. soil is disgusting.This is not a defense of Obama because I don’t think he will really improve or worsen the odds. It’s just that Cheney is so grotesque.It is probably just part of a lobbying effort for oil and military related interests. The fact that he would be such a bold faced creep about it is mind boggling.
I agree with the idea that we need to grow up and make intentional adjustments. First these people need to be stopped. Second, everyone of us needs to get over being addicted to independent prosperity as the preeminent goal of life,not through forced,expansionist communism, or any nationalistic socialism that begs for a superior standard of living relative to the rest of the globe but voluntarily and in good will.I am not optimistic, even though it seems so easy to do.
February 7, 2009 at 9:13 AM #342911NotCrankyParticipant[quote=arraya]Gandalf-I come to piggington with a radical voice for a reason. To let everybody know things are not going to be the same in the future. Despite the tone of my post I am very optimistic. However, optimism is contingent on where you place you bets. I don’t bet on this current zeitgeist to last.
We need creativity to devise a new type of economy. It’s not coming out of DC. My fear is the USG is not as keystone cop-esque as perceived at least not in the depths of the Pentagon, federal reserve and intelligence agencies. I think the people should have a say what ever social and economic structure emerges. It should not be stumbled upon via crisis.
We are a myopic species via our evolutionary successes. It just is what has worked for us in the 200K+ years this hybrid hominid species has been wondering the earth.
That needs to end. It’s time for us to grow up and realize the earth has limits and that very much affects our quality of life.
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Good post.
Between the war, the bubbles and the “financial crisis”, one does have to wonder if there is more of an intentional component to this “misery”. With the war it is obvious, but what about the rest of it. Why would TPTB be so reckless?I have thought for a while that some of TPTB saw some writing on the wall, social changes coming that would affect the ruling class, etc. and hit the panic button, or a few of them.
Things have been so crazy that it begs conspiracy theories.The denial of exceptionally bad economic fundamentals followed almost immediately by dramatic bail outs, especially Paulson’s antics.
Now we Have Cheney making seemingly sinister threats against America.That he is so ready to scapegoat the new president for future attacks on U.S. soil is disgusting.This is not a defense of Obama because I don’t think he will really improve or worsen the odds. It’s just that Cheney is so grotesque.It is probably just part of a lobbying effort for oil and military related interests. The fact that he would be such a bold faced creep about it is mind boggling.
I agree with the idea that we need to grow up and make intentional adjustments. First these people need to be stopped. Second, everyone of us needs to get over being addicted to independent prosperity as the preeminent goal of life,not through forced,expansionist communism, or any nationalistic socialism that begs for a superior standard of living relative to the rest of the globe but voluntarily and in good will.I am not optimistic, even though it seems so easy to do.
February 7, 2009 at 9:13 AM #342937NotCrankyParticipant[quote=arraya]Gandalf-I come to piggington with a radical voice for a reason. To let everybody know things are not going to be the same in the future. Despite the tone of my post I am very optimistic. However, optimism is contingent on where you place you bets. I don’t bet on this current zeitgeist to last.
We need creativity to devise a new type of economy. It’s not coming out of DC. My fear is the USG is not as keystone cop-esque as perceived at least not in the depths of the Pentagon, federal reserve and intelligence agencies. I think the people should have a say what ever social and economic structure emerges. It should not be stumbled upon via crisis.
We are a myopic species via our evolutionary successes. It just is what has worked for us in the 200K+ years this hybrid hominid species has been wondering the earth.
That needs to end. It’s time for us to grow up and realize the earth has limits and that very much affects our quality of life.
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Good post.
Between the war, the bubbles and the “financial crisis”, one does have to wonder if there is more of an intentional component to this “misery”. With the war it is obvious, but what about the rest of it. Why would TPTB be so reckless?I have thought for a while that some of TPTB saw some writing on the wall, social changes coming that would affect the ruling class, etc. and hit the panic button, or a few of them.
Things have been so crazy that it begs conspiracy theories.The denial of exceptionally bad economic fundamentals followed almost immediately by dramatic bail outs, especially Paulson’s antics.
Now we Have Cheney making seemingly sinister threats against America.That he is so ready to scapegoat the new president for future attacks on U.S. soil is disgusting.This is not a defense of Obama because I don’t think he will really improve or worsen the odds. It’s just that Cheney is so grotesque.It is probably just part of a lobbying effort for oil and military related interests. The fact that he would be such a bold faced creep about it is mind boggling.
I agree with the idea that we need to grow up and make intentional adjustments. First these people need to be stopped. Second, everyone of us needs to get over being addicted to independent prosperity as the preeminent goal of life,not through forced,expansionist communism, or any nationalistic socialism that begs for a superior standard of living relative to the rest of the globe but voluntarily and in good will.I am not optimistic, even though it seems so easy to do.
February 7, 2009 at 9:13 AM #343036NotCrankyParticipant[quote=arraya]Gandalf-I come to piggington with a radical voice for a reason. To let everybody know things are not going to be the same in the future. Despite the tone of my post I am very optimistic. However, optimism is contingent on where you place you bets. I don’t bet on this current zeitgeist to last.
We need creativity to devise a new type of economy. It’s not coming out of DC. My fear is the USG is not as keystone cop-esque as perceived at least not in the depths of the Pentagon, federal reserve and intelligence agencies. I think the people should have a say what ever social and economic structure emerges. It should not be stumbled upon via crisis.
We are a myopic species via our evolutionary successes. It just is what has worked for us in the 200K+ years this hybrid hominid species has been wondering the earth.
That needs to end. It’s time for us to grow up and realize the earth has limits and that very much affects our quality of life.
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Good post.
Between the war, the bubbles and the “financial crisis”, one does have to wonder if there is more of an intentional component to this “misery”. With the war it is obvious, but what about the rest of it. Why would TPTB be so reckless?I have thought for a while that some of TPTB saw some writing on the wall, social changes coming that would affect the ruling class, etc. and hit the panic button, or a few of them.
Things have been so crazy that it begs conspiracy theories.The denial of exceptionally bad economic fundamentals followed almost immediately by dramatic bail outs, especially Paulson’s antics.
Now we Have Cheney making seemingly sinister threats against America.That he is so ready to scapegoat the new president for future attacks on U.S. soil is disgusting.This is not a defense of Obama because I don’t think he will really improve or worsen the odds. It’s just that Cheney is so grotesque.It is probably just part of a lobbying effort for oil and military related interests. The fact that he would be such a bold faced creep about it is mind boggling.
I agree with the idea that we need to grow up and make intentional adjustments. First these people need to be stopped. Second, everyone of us needs to get over being addicted to independent prosperity as the preeminent goal of life,not through forced,expansionist communism, or any nationalistic socialism that begs for a superior standard of living relative to the rest of the globe but voluntarily and in good will.I am not optimistic, even though it seems so easy to do.
February 7, 2009 at 8:01 PM #342673anxvarietyParticipantWho is ‘Obama’? I keep hearing everyone talk about him..
Allan, I’m putting $100 down on you being the smartest person in Fallbrook. Oceanside native here, spent time in Bonsall/Fallbrook/Rainbow/DeLuz – most likely picking Avocados or grubbin’ at the The Wayside Cafe, but I don’t remember…
February 7, 2009 at 8:01 PM #342999anxvarietyParticipantWho is ‘Obama’? I keep hearing everyone talk about him..
Allan, I’m putting $100 down on you being the smartest person in Fallbrook. Oceanside native here, spent time in Bonsall/Fallbrook/Rainbow/DeLuz – most likely picking Avocados or grubbin’ at the The Wayside Cafe, but I don’t remember…
February 7, 2009 at 8:01 PM #343108anxvarietyParticipantWho is ‘Obama’? I keep hearing everyone talk about him..
Allan, I’m putting $100 down on you being the smartest person in Fallbrook. Oceanside native here, spent time in Bonsall/Fallbrook/Rainbow/DeLuz – most likely picking Avocados or grubbin’ at the The Wayside Cafe, but I don’t remember…
February 7, 2009 at 8:01 PM #343137anxvarietyParticipantWho is ‘Obama’? I keep hearing everyone talk about him..
Allan, I’m putting $100 down on you being the smartest person in Fallbrook. Oceanside native here, spent time in Bonsall/Fallbrook/Rainbow/DeLuz – most likely picking Avocados or grubbin’ at the The Wayside Cafe, but I don’t remember…
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