OT: More on Saylor and the Fireball Lexus

[an]

It has push button start, so the user could have just toss the keys out of the window and after a short distance, the car will shut off.

[Doofrat]

Here’s a posting about somebody who supposedly took a dealer car and ran it trough the same scenario and the Saylor car:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1859407

Summary: You can’t shift into neutral using the gate that is normally used, the computer overrides it at high speed. You have to shift into the center unmarked gate to shift into neutral. Again, this is like the start button, unless you know the specific steps involved in operating it in an emergency situation, your chance of working it correctly are almost nil’

Picture for reference:

http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/lexus_es_350_2009_interior_gearshift.jpg

[Doofrat]

Here’s a posting about somebody who supposedly took a dealer car and ran it trough the same scenario and the Saylor car:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1859407

Summary: You can’t shift into neutral using the gate that is normally used, the computer overrides it at high speed. You have to shift into the center unmarked gate to shift into neutral. Again, this is like the start button, unless you know the specific steps involved in operating it in an emergency situation, your chance of working it correctly are almost nil’

Picture for reference:

http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/lexus_es_350_2009_interior_gearshift.jpg

[Doofrat]

Here’s a posting about somebody who supposedly took a dealer car and ran it trough the same scenario and the Saylor car:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1859407

Summary: You can’t shift into neutral using the gate that is normally used, the computer overrides it at high speed. You have to shift into the center unmarked gate to shift into neutral. Again, this is like the start button, unless you know the specific steps involved in operating it in an emergency situation, your chance of working it correctly are almost nil’

Picture for reference:

http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/lexus_es_350_2009_interior_gearshift.jpg

[Doofrat]

Here’s a posting about somebody who supposedly took a dealer car and ran it trough the same scenario and the Saylor car:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1859407

Summary: You can’t shift into neutral using the gate that is normally used, the computer overrides it at high speed. You have to shift into the center unmarked gate to shift into neutral. Again, this is like the start button, unless you know the specific steps involved in operating it in an emergency situation, your chance of working it correctly are almost nil’

Picture for reference:

http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/lexus_es_350_2009_interior_gearshift.jpg

[Doofrat]

Here’s a posting about somebody who supposedly took a dealer car and ran it trough the same scenario and the Saylor car:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1859407

Summary: You can’t shift into neutral using the gate that is normally used, the computer overrides it at high speed. You have to shift into the center unmarked gate to shift into neutral. Again, this is like the start button, unless you know the specific steps involved in operating it in an emergency situation, your chance of working it correctly are almost nil’

Picture for reference:

http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/lexus_es_350_2009_interior_gearshift.jpg

[SDEngineer]

[quote=AN]It has push button start, so the user could have just toss the keys out of the window and after a short distance, the car will shut off.[/quote]

Doesn’t work that way unfortunately.

The key being in proximity to the ignition is only required to start the car. Once started, the car will continue to run regardless of whether the key is present or not.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=AN]It has push button start, so the user could have just toss the keys out of the window and after a short distance, the car will shut off.[/quote]

Doesn’t work that way unfortunately.

The key being in proximity to the ignition is only required to start the car. Once started, the car will continue to run regardless of whether the key is present or not.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=AN]It has push button start, so the user could have just toss the keys out of the window and after a short distance, the car will shut off.[/quote]

Doesn’t work that way unfortunately.

The key being in proximity to the ignition is only required to start the car. Once started, the car will continue to run regardless of whether the key is present or not.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=AN]It has push button start, so the user could have just toss the keys out of the window and after a short distance, the car will shut off.[/quote]

Doesn’t work that way unfortunately.

The key being in proximity to the ignition is only required to start the car. Once started, the car will continue to run regardless of whether the key is present or not.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=AN]It has push button start, so the user could have just toss the keys out of the window and after a short distance, the car will shut off.[/quote]

Doesn’t work that way unfortunately.

The key being in proximity to the ignition is only required to start the car. Once started, the car will continue to run regardless of whether the key is present or not.

[Coronita]

[quote=doofrat]Here’s a posting about somebody who supposedly took a dealer car and ran it trough the same scenario and the Saylor car:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1859407

Summary: You can’t shift into neutral using the gate that is normally used, the computer overrides it at high speed. You have to shift into the center unmarked gate to shift into neutral. Again, this is like the start button, unless you know the specific steps involved in operating it in an emergency situation, your chance of working it correctly are almost nil’

Picture for reference:

http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/lexus_es_350_2009_interior_gearshift.jpg%5B/quote%5D

Not sure if this is accurate, but i tested this at a lower speed (60ish) and was able to pop it into the neutral. However, the thing I did notice is the design of the shift gate pattern is horrible from a usability perspective, because unless you have driven the car for some time and am use to shifting in between the gears, it takes awhile to get use moving the selector between te gears…It’s especially confusing if you were in tiptronics(or whatever lexus calls it) mode (furtherest to the left) and are trying to shift back out. For one thing, if your trying to keep your car in control going 100+mph, you cant exactly look down. Hence, it probably was because Saylor wasn’t familiar with the car, and couldn’t figure out how to pop it into N and he couldn’t exactly look down to see the gate.

I don’t understand why auto makers try to make selectors like this. I guess it’s to prevent people from accidentally shifting out of gear. I’d say it was effective for all the wrong reasons.

Rip Saylor and family.

[Coronita]

[quote=doofrat]Here’s a posting about somebody who supposedly took a dealer car and ran it trough the same scenario and the Saylor car:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1859407

Summary: You can’t shift into neutral using the gate that is normally used, the computer overrides it at high speed. You have to shift into the center unmarked gate to shift into neutral. Again, this is like the start button, unless you know the specific steps involved in operating it in an emergency situation, your chance of working it correctly are almost nil’

Picture for reference:

http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/lexus_es_350_2009_interior_gearshift.jpg%5B/quote%5D

Not sure if this is accurate, but i tested this at a lower speed (60ish) and was able to pop it into the neutral. However, the thing I did notice is the design of the shift gate pattern is horrible from a usability perspective, because unless you have driven the car for some time and am use to shifting in between the gears, it takes awhile to get use moving the selector between te gears…It’s especially confusing if you were in tiptronics(or whatever lexus calls it) mode (furtherest to the left) and are trying to shift back out. For one thing, if your trying to keep your car in control going 100+mph, you cant exactly look down. Hence, it probably was because Saylor wasn’t familiar with the car, and couldn’t figure out how to pop it into N and he couldn’t exactly look down to see the gate.

I don’t understand why auto makers try to make selectors like this. I guess it’s to prevent people from accidentally shifting out of gear. I’d say it was effective for all the wrong reasons.

Rip Saylor and family.

[Coronita]

[quote=doofrat]Here’s a posting about somebody who supposedly took a dealer car and ran it trough the same scenario and the Saylor car:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1859407

Summary: You can’t shift into neutral using the gate that is normally used, the computer overrides it at high speed. You have to shift into the center unmarked gate to shift into neutral. Again, this is like the start button, unless you know the specific steps involved in operating it in an emergency situation, your chance of working it correctly are almost nil’

Picture for reference:

http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/lexus_es_350_2009_interior_gearshift.jpg%5B/quote%5D

Not sure if this is accurate, but i tested this at a lower speed (60ish) and was able to pop it into the neutral. However, the thing I did notice is the design of the shift gate pattern is horrible from a usability perspective, because unless you have driven the car for some time and am use to shifting in between the gears, it takes awhile to get use moving the selector between te gears…It’s especially confusing if you were in tiptronics(or whatever lexus calls it) mode (furtherest to the left) and are trying to shift back out. For one thing, if your trying to keep your car in control going 100+mph, you cant exactly look down. Hence, it probably was because Saylor wasn’t familiar with the car, and couldn’t figure out how to pop it into N and he couldn’t exactly look down to see the gate.

I don’t understand why auto makers try to make selectors like this. I guess it’s to prevent people from accidentally shifting out of gear. I’d say it was effective for all the wrong reasons.

Rip Saylor and family.

[Coronita]

[quote=doofrat]Here’s a posting about somebody who supposedly took a dealer car and ran it trough the same scenario and the Saylor car:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1859407

Summary: You can’t shift into neutral using the gate that is normally used, the computer overrides it at high speed. You have to shift into the center unmarked gate to shift into neutral. Again, this is like the start button, unless you know the specific steps involved in operating it in an emergency situation, your chance of working it correctly are almost nil’

Picture for reference:

http://l.yimg.com/dv/izp/lexus_es_350_2009_interior_gearshift.jpg%5B/quote%5D

Not sure if this is accurate, but i tested this at a lower speed (60ish) and was able to pop it into the neutral. However, the thing I did notice is the design of the shift gate pattern is horrible from a usability perspective, because unless you have driven the car for some time and am use to shifting in between the gears, it takes awhile to get use moving the selector between te gears…It’s especially confusing if you were in tiptronics(or whatever lexus calls it) mode (furtherest to the left) and are trying to shift back out. For one thing, if your trying to keep your car in control going 100+mph, you cant exactly look down. Hence, it probably was because Saylor wasn’t familiar with the car, and couldn’t figure out how to pop it into N and he couldn’t exactly look down to see the gate.

I don’t understand why auto makers try to make selectors like this. I guess it’s to prevent people from accidentally shifting out of gear. I’d say it was effective for all the wrong reasons.

Rip Saylor and family.

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