OT: Men, the Gender Wars Are Over — We Won

[Navydoc]

[quote=8bitnintendo
Really? What state was this? That’s definitely not legal in California.[/quote]

What do you mean it’s not legal in California? Are you saying he can force the Urologist to perform a surgical procedure, however minor, against the surgeons wishes? I assure you that he cannot. I had a similar case when I had a 17yo asking me to tie her tubes. She had no kids either, and I refused to do it. My 3 other colleagues at the time refused to do it as well.

You have to be extremely careful when performing technically permanant (although most CAN be reversed, it’s just an expensive and difficult procedure to do so) sterilization procedures. It’s not impossible for the patient to claim they were inadequately counseled prior to the procedure and get the surgeon to pay for future IVF costs.

[jpinpb]

[quote=scaredycat]we cannot declare victory until a male birth control exists[/quote]

Amen. That would be more a victory for some women. Contrary to popular belief, many women aren’t fond of being barefoot and pregnant. I’ve known a few who got trapped by men. Something to do w/owning and controlling and using kids as a tool. This trick of getting pregnant trap is not limited to women. Twisted men out there, too.

And by CA renter – Thanks for pointing out what is available to men already. Besides condoms, vasectomy is an option. Find another doctor who would do it. Is he the only one in town?

See OP topic of men and their desire to be irresponsible.

[jpinpb]

[quote=scaredycat]we cannot declare victory until a male birth control exists[/quote]

Amen. That would be more a victory for some women. Contrary to popular belief, many women aren’t fond of being barefoot and pregnant. I’ve known a few who got trapped by men. Something to do w/owning and controlling and using kids as a tool. This trick of getting pregnant trap is not limited to women. Twisted men out there, too.

And by CA renter – Thanks for pointing out what is available to men already. Besides condoms, vasectomy is an option. Find another doctor who would do it. Is he the only one in town?

See OP topic of men and their desire to be irresponsible.

[jpinpb]

[quote=scaredycat]we cannot declare victory until a male birth control exists[/quote]

Amen. That would be more a victory for some women. Contrary to popular belief, many women aren’t fond of being barefoot and pregnant. I’ve known a few who got trapped by men. Something to do w/owning and controlling and using kids as a tool. This trick of getting pregnant trap is not limited to women. Twisted men out there, too.

And by CA renter – Thanks for pointing out what is available to men already. Besides condoms, vasectomy is an option. Find another doctor who would do it. Is he the only one in town?

See OP topic of men and their desire to be irresponsible.

[jpinpb]

[quote=scaredycat]we cannot declare victory until a male birth control exists[/quote]

Amen. That would be more a victory for some women. Contrary to popular belief, many women aren’t fond of being barefoot and pregnant. I’ve known a few who got trapped by men. Something to do w/owning and controlling and using kids as a tool. This trick of getting pregnant trap is not limited to women. Twisted men out there, too.

And by CA renter – Thanks for pointing out what is available to men already. Besides condoms, vasectomy is an option. Find another doctor who would do it. Is he the only one in town?

See OP topic of men and their desire to be irresponsible.

[jpinpb]

[quote=scaredycat]we cannot declare victory until a male birth control exists[/quote]

Amen. That would be more a victory for some women. Contrary to popular belief, many women aren’t fond of being barefoot and pregnant. I’ve known a few who got trapped by men. Something to do w/owning and controlling and using kids as a tool. This trick of getting pregnant trap is not limited to women. Twisted men out there, too.

And by CA renter – Thanks for pointing out what is available to men already. Besides condoms, vasectomy is an option. Find another doctor who would do it. Is he the only one in town?

See OP topic of men and their desire to be irresponsible.

[scaredyclassic]

i got a vasectomy. it hurt.

[scaredyclassic]

i got a vasectomy. it hurt.

[scaredyclassic]

i got a vasectomy. it hurt.

[scaredyclassic]

i got a vasectomy. it hurt.

[scaredyclassic]

i got a vasectomy. it hurt.

[jficquette]

[quote=scaredycat]i got a vasectomy. it hurt.[/quote]

I was surprised at the discomfort.

[jficquette]

[quote=scaredycat]i got a vasectomy. it hurt.[/quote]

I was surprised at the discomfort.

[jficquette]

[quote=scaredycat]i got a vasectomy. it hurt.[/quote]

I was surprised at the discomfort.

[jficquette]

[quote=scaredycat]i got a vasectomy. it hurt.[/quote]

I was surprised at the discomfort.

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