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May 1, 2011 at 9:56 PM #692194May 1, 2011 at 10:33 PM #691048
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Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=paramount]Being gay should not define a special class of citizens or special status; and gays should not be recognized in a public school curriculum in the way that is being proposed.
Being gay is a behavior, not a social class.[/quote]
Social class is defined by any designator (eg: hair color, skin color, sexual behavior, income, alcohol consumption) that can be used to draw a circle around a group.
People who have same-sex relations may or may not be gay (eg: prison) but the point is that behavior is a perfectly acceptable designator of social class.
That is why we have a word for it.
That is why it is a designated “protected social class” in the state code.By your definition, religion would also be likewise non-recognized.
Being a Mormon is also a behavior.[/quote]
I totally disagree, but the real point is that none of the above warrant a special class status in any way, shape or form.
May 1, 2011 at 10:33 PM #691118Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=paramount]Being gay should not define a special class of citizens or special status; and gays should not be recognized in a public school curriculum in the way that is being proposed.
Being gay is a behavior, not a social class.[/quote]
Social class is defined by any designator (eg: hair color, skin color, sexual behavior, income, alcohol consumption) that can be used to draw a circle around a group.
People who have same-sex relations may or may not be gay (eg: prison) but the point is that behavior is a perfectly acceptable designator of social class.
That is why we have a word for it.
That is why it is a designated “protected social class” in the state code.By your definition, religion would also be likewise non-recognized.
Being a Mormon is also a behavior.[/quote]
I totally disagree, but the real point is that none of the above warrant a special class status in any way, shape or form.
May 1, 2011 at 10:33 PM #691723Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=paramount]Being gay should not define a special class of citizens or special status; and gays should not be recognized in a public school curriculum in the way that is being proposed.
Being gay is a behavior, not a social class.[/quote]
Social class is defined by any designator (eg: hair color, skin color, sexual behavior, income, alcohol consumption) that can be used to draw a circle around a group.
People who have same-sex relations may or may not be gay (eg: prison) but the point is that behavior is a perfectly acceptable designator of social class.
That is why we have a word for it.
That is why it is a designated “protected social class” in the state code.By your definition, religion would also be likewise non-recognized.
Being a Mormon is also a behavior.[/quote]
I totally disagree, but the real point is that none of the above warrant a special class status in any way, shape or form.
May 1, 2011 at 10:33 PM #691870Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=paramount]Being gay should not define a special class of citizens or special status; and gays should not be recognized in a public school curriculum in the way that is being proposed.
Being gay is a behavior, not a social class.[/quote]
Social class is defined by any designator (eg: hair color, skin color, sexual behavior, income, alcohol consumption) that can be used to draw a circle around a group.
People who have same-sex relations may or may not be gay (eg: prison) but the point is that behavior is a perfectly acceptable designator of social class.
That is why we have a word for it.
That is why it is a designated “protected social class” in the state code.By your definition, religion would also be likewise non-recognized.
Being a Mormon is also a behavior.[/quote]
I totally disagree, but the real point is that none of the above warrant a special class status in any way, shape or form.
May 1, 2011 at 10:33 PM #692215Participant[quote=urbanrealtor][quote=paramount]Being gay should not define a special class of citizens or special status; and gays should not be recognized in a public school curriculum in the way that is being proposed.
Being gay is a behavior, not a social class.[/quote]
Social class is defined by any designator (eg: hair color, skin color, sexual behavior, income, alcohol consumption) that can be used to draw a circle around a group.
People who have same-sex relations may or may not be gay (eg: prison) but the point is that behavior is a perfectly acceptable designator of social class.
That is why we have a word for it.
That is why it is a designated “protected social class” in the state code.By your definition, religion would also be likewise non-recognized.
Being a Mormon is also a behavior.[/quote]
I totally disagree, but the real point is that none of the above warrant a special class status in any way, shape or form.
May 1, 2011 at 10:46 PM #691058urbanrealtor
ParticipantMy statement was not controversial.
The nature of class (speaking generally, not in Marxist terms) is having a common salient definable quality.That the definition of a class (eg: class action).
May 1, 2011 at 10:46 PM #691129ParticipantMy statement was not controversial.
The nature of class (speaking generally, not in Marxist terms) is having a common salient definable quality.That the definition of a class (eg: class action).
May 1, 2011 at 10:46 PM #691733ParticipantMy statement was not controversial.
The nature of class (speaking generally, not in Marxist terms) is having a common salient definable quality.That the definition of a class (eg: class action).
May 1, 2011 at 10:46 PM #691880ParticipantMy statement was not controversial.
The nature of class (speaking generally, not in Marxist terms) is having a common salient definable quality.That the definition of a class (eg: class action).
May 1, 2011 at 10:46 PM #692225ParticipantMy statement was not controversial.
The nature of class (speaking generally, not in Marxist terms) is having a common salient definable quality.That the definition of a class (eg: class action).
May 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM #691087SK in CV
Participant[quote=briansd1]I wanted an Asian, professional female housemate because I trust that they are clean and pay rent on time without ever having to be asked… but that’s antoher story.[/quote]
Geez Brian. They? Really? They? Your experiences with some Asians, and some professionals, and some females, tells you that they will all act that way? You do realize that “they” is the genesis of all bigotry? Biases which become prejudices by the attribution to an entire population, a characteristic exhibited by some members of that population. It doesn’t matter that you’ve identified good characteristics. It doesn’t matter if “they” are Asian professional women, or Republicans or Conservatives or gays or any other population. Stop writing that shit. And even more importantly, stop thinking that way.
May 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM #691159Participant[quote=briansd1]I wanted an Asian, professional female housemate because I trust that they are clean and pay rent on time without ever having to be asked… but that’s antoher story.[/quote]
Geez Brian. They? Really? They? Your experiences with some Asians, and some professionals, and some females, tells you that they will all act that way? You do realize that “they” is the genesis of all bigotry? Biases which become prejudices by the attribution to an entire population, a characteristic exhibited by some members of that population. It doesn’t matter that you’ve identified good characteristics. It doesn’t matter if “they” are Asian professional women, or Republicans or Conservatives or gays or any other population. Stop writing that shit. And even more importantly, stop thinking that way.
May 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM #691763Participant[quote=briansd1]I wanted an Asian, professional female housemate because I trust that they are clean and pay rent on time without ever having to be asked… but that’s antoher story.[/quote]
Geez Brian. They? Really? They? Your experiences with some Asians, and some professionals, and some females, tells you that they will all act that way? You do realize that “they” is the genesis of all bigotry? Biases which become prejudices by the attribution to an entire population, a characteristic exhibited by some members of that population. It doesn’t matter that you’ve identified good characteristics. It doesn’t matter if “they” are Asian professional women, or Republicans or Conservatives or gays or any other population. Stop writing that shit. And even more importantly, stop thinking that way.
May 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM #691909Participant[quote=briansd1]I wanted an Asian, professional female housemate because I trust that they are clean and pay rent on time without ever having to be asked… but that’s antoher story.[/quote]
Geez Brian. They? Really? They? Your experiences with some Asians, and some professionals, and some females, tells you that they will all act that way? You do realize that “they” is the genesis of all bigotry? Biases which become prejudices by the attribution to an entire population, a characteristic exhibited by some members of that population. It doesn’t matter that you’ve identified good characteristics. It doesn’t matter if “they” are Asian professional women, or Republicans or Conservatives or gays or any other population. Stop writing that shit. And even more importantly, stop thinking that way.
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