OT: Ebola – Global Pandemic?

[Coronita]

[quote=all][quote=flu]So I guess if I’m blood type O… So when it comes to plasma donation , I can receive any blood plasma type supposedly right?

:)[/quote]

No. The opposite. AB is universal receiver. O is universal donor.[/quote]

For blood, that is correct. For plasma, it’s the opposite I believe..

And plasma transfusion is what is happening right now for ebola….

At least that is according to wikipedia..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_plasma

AB is universal donor for plasma….So I assume O is the universal receiver for plasma…

[Zeitgeist]

For zk

http://www.medicare.gov/your-medicare-costs/costs-at-a-glance/costs-at-glance.html

http://blog.ehealthinsurance.com/2014/10/is-ebola-covered-by-my-health-insurance-plan/

http://thehappyhospitalist.blogspot.com/2014/08/Ebola-Virus-30-Day-Readmission-Medicare-Penalty.html

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Daily-Reports/2014/August/05/opeds.aspx

[zk]

[quote=Zeitgeist]For zk

http://www.medicare.gov/your-medicare-costs/costs-at-a-glance/costs-at-glance.html

http://blog.ehealthinsurance.com/2014/10/is-ebola-covered-by-my-health-insurance-plan/

http://thehappyhospitalist.blogspot.com/2014/08/Ebola-Virus-30-Day-Readmission-Medicare-Penalty.html

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Daily-Reports/2014/August/05/opeds.aspx%5B/quote%5D

Not sure what the purpose of posting those links is, Zeitgeist. Got any actual evidence of any conspiracies?

[zk]

Interesting. I had said that conspiracy theorists aren’t daunted by the fact that they’re basically always wrong. Fascinating to learn that that isn’t the issue. The issue is that they think they’re right. They need nothing but hearsay and the medicare website and a couple of tin-foil-hat radio hosts to be convinced that they’re right.

Seems obvious in retrospect. It should’ve been obvious at the time, and I’m not sure why I’d have thought that they would have taken the lack of real evidence of previous conspiracies on the scale that they’re always talking about as evidence that they’re wrong.

[kev374]

Excellent report here:

FINALLY media is admitting that it can be contracted through contaminated surfaces and the virus can survive outside for DAYS. this is a MUCH bigger risk than has been stated by the CDC which is downplaying it.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/14/world/europe/ebola-outbreak/index.html

The problem here is that there are various “experts” all over the place stating how it is almost impossible to catch Ebola…YET… a nurse fully dressed in ridiculously protective gear got it, oh we don’t know how sorry…BUT BUT It’s impossible to catch..

[outtamojo]

[quote=kev374]Excellent report here:

FINALLY media is admitting that it can be contracted through contaminated surfaces and the virus can survive outside for DAYS. this is a MUCH bigger risk than has been stated by the CDC which is downplaying it.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/14/world/europe/ebola-outbreak/index.html

The problem here is that there are various “experts” all over the place stating how it is almost impossible to catch Ebola…YET… a nurse fully dressed in ridiculously protective gear got it, oh we don’t know how sorry…BUT BUT It’s impossible to catch..[/quote]

What needs to be understood is how viral loads zoom to incredible highs in the last few days of a victim’s life. They become literal bags of virus. It is during this time that any small slipup becomes deadly.

[outtamojo]

Looks like the CDC is starting to get it. They will fly in a team to direct things whenever an ebola case presents/confirmed, a multi fold improvement over how any hospital with an isolation ward should be able to handle Ebola. Credit to CDC head for admitting original course was wrong.

[Aecetia]

Good article from CNN. Sounds like the CDC is making changes in response to the Dallas case:

Then “the CDC was telling possible Ebola patients to ‘call a doctor.’ When passengers arrive in the United States from Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea, they’re handed a flier instructing them to “call a doctor” if they feel ill. Never mind how hard it is to get your doctor on the phone, but even if you could, it’s quite possible she’d tell you to go to the nearest emergency room or urgent care center.” Now the recommendation is a toll free number, etc.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/13/health/ebola-cdc/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

[zk]

[quote=kev374]

The problem here is that there are various “experts” all over the place stating how it is almost impossible to catch Ebola…YET… a nurse fully dressed in ridiculously protective gear got it, oh we don’t know how sorry…BUT BUT It’s impossible to catch..[/quote]

The problem here is that you’re making stuff up. Show me where a single expert said “it’s almost impossible to catch.”

[Aecetia]

[quote=zk][quote=kev374]

The problem here is that there are various “experts” all over the place stating how it is almost impossible to catch Ebola…YET… a nurse fully dressed in ridiculously protective gear got it, oh we don’t know how sorry…BUT BUT It’s impossible to catch..[/quote]

The problem here is that you’re making stuff up. Show me where a single expert said “it’s almost impossible to catch.”[/quote]
Will you settle for hard to catch?

Prof. Jonathan Gershoni, an expert on virology and immunology Tel Aviv University and an Israeli member of the Global Virus Network. Start with the fact that unlike some other viral conditions such as influenza, Ebola is relatively hard to catch. It isn’t airborne. It requires direct contact.”

http://www.haaretz.com/life/science-medicine/1.620757

[Coronita]

Second case reported in Texas….

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/health/texas-ebola-outbreak/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[CA renter]

[quote=flu]Second case reported in Texas….

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/health/texas-ebola-outbreak/index.html?hpt=hp_t1%5B/quote%5D

From flu’s link:

“Official: Duncan should have been moved

An official close to the situation says that in hindsight, Duncan should have been transferred immediately to either Emory University Hospital in Atlanta or Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha.

Those hospitals are among only four in the country that have biocontainment units and have been preparing for years to treat a highly infectious disease like Ebola.

“If we knew then what we know now about this hospital’s ability to safely care for these patients, then we would have transferred him to Emory or Nebraska,” the official told CNN Senior Medical Correspondent Elizabeth Cohen.”

Again, something that was obvious to a lot of people who don’t even work in the medical field. Something like this requires very specialized facilities and highly trained staff.

[CA renter]

[quote=zk][quote=CA renter]

From what I’ve seen, “conspiracy theorists” tend to be right more often than not. All to often, they are ridiculed for many years before they are proven right. One should never accept the “official” version of a story until they do their own thorough and independent research. Sometimes, logic and reason are enough to disprove an “official” story.[/quote]

Really? How about some examples?[/quote]

“10 Nefarious Conspiracies Proven True”

http://listverse.com/2013/05/02/10-nefarious-conspiracies-proven-true/

———-

There’s the story of “weapons of mass destruction” that didn’t exist in Iraq.

And I’m still not convinced we’ve heard the end of 9/11 investigation results.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

And the heavy put buying on United and American Airlines just days before 9/11. I’m offering up the rebuttal to the “conspiracy theorists” but they simply say that these traders didn’t have any links to al Qaeda, which wasn’t what the “conspiracy theorists” were suggesting in the first place.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/putcall.asp

And, of course, there’s the EPA telling NY residents that it was safe to breathe the air after 911 (and President Bush telling everyone in the U.S. to “go shopping”!).

“Three days after 9/11, following questionable air sampling techniques, a spokesperson for the EPA said that levels of asbestos were either at low levels, negligible, or undetectable.

“I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C., that the air is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink,” Whitman said one week after 9/11.”

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/oct/the-9-11-cover-up

And just a tiny bit of info about the infiltration and destruction of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/05/fbi-occupy-wall-street_n_2410783.html

[zk]

[quote=Aecetia]
Will you settle for hard to catch?

[/quote]

If you show me an expert who says it’s hard to catch I will. Professor Gershoni said it’s “relatively hard to catch.” Not the same. And a long, long way from “almost impossible.” (Depending on what you’re relative comparison was, of course.)

[zk]

[quote=CA renter]
“10 Nefarious Conspiracies Proven True”

http://listverse.com/2013/05/02/10-nefarious-conspiracies-proven-true/
[/quote]
#1 Heart attack gun: The CIA has a covert way to kill someone? That’s not a conspiracy. That’s part of their job. The speculation about the people they killed is just speculation.

#2 Domestic terrorism: It never happened. There was a plan by the military that no government leaders agreed to.

#3 Scientology attack: Yes, the church of scientology relentlessly attacked this woman. Attacking one obscure person is such a narrow and small operation that it’s not really the kind of conspiracy that is all that hard to get away with. I’ll agree that attack-one-not-that-well-known-person conspiracies do exist.

It’s a long list and I have to get to work. More later.

[Author]

Posts